Boushh Boushh Helmet WIP

[Skupilkinson]

Morning guys,

Good news. Boushh is ready!! I couldn't sleep this morning so I thought I'd do something constructive rather than veg in front of the TV.

It's all unfolded ready to print now, the file will take 24 pages to print out. Though this may increase slightly later today as I'm thinking of adding some support to the helmet. This will help the card build hold it's shape while the resin outer coats are being applied. I may do them later and add them to the existing file.

Now for a slightly uncomfortable announcement. I've spent alot of time on this and origiinally it was going to be given away. However, I've been spotting some of my papermodel work being given out by others as if it was their own creation, also I've spotted a few ebay listings with my models for sale by others. This was not what I want at all.

So in future, all of my work is available at a price. Nothing to make me rich or break peoples banks. Just something to compensate me for the time I spend, and also as a sort of deterrent against the nasty little people out there from just downloading the work and then selling it on as their own.

I'm sorry about this but I need to try something. I'm not trying to let people down here, nor is it because I think my stuff is too good to be given away to this community.

If any members here are still interested in buying a copy of this helmet then you can PM me here or email me via the email link at my blog.

Here's a pic of the final unfolded model:


Thanks for all of the support and compliments here, I appreciate them all.

 

[Mojo Fett]

I'm really sorry to hear this Skip... (not the having to pay part) but the fact that some people have basically ripped you off?! :angry

The end result of that Boushh looks awesome...

 

[mckenic]

Hey Skip!

Great work and IMO (not that you need it) you are perfectly correct in your decision! You have very obviously put a LOT of work into these designs and should be charging for them!!! My main passion is music and I'd FREAK if someone was passing off one of my sample libraries or one of my bands tunes as their own! That is really low and congratulations to you for not getting down and for still being willing to put your work out there!

When I get some time and cash I'll be hitting you up for this design mate!

Keep up the great work!

Dave

 

[tbone9600]

Skip,

Looks great! I hate that folks have been claiming your stuff as their own. Why can't people just own up to the fact that they do not have the skills or the knowledge to create such things, or that they just flat out didn't do it but this person did? Give credit where it is due! It is just low to claim anyone else's work. At any rate, you'll be getting a PM at some point.

Troy

 

[Skupilkinson]

Thanks very much for the support guys. I appreciate it, I really do. Although most of my stuff will be for sale only from now on, I'd still like to give to this community seeing as it's given me so much over the years(I've been coming here long before I signed up), So I think I'll do something when I'm freed up that will only be available to TDH members or something.

I have no idea what it will be, but I'll thing of something.

 

[psberetta]

Skip,

Looks great! I hate that folks have been claiming your stuff as their own. Why can't people just own up to the fact that they do not have the skills or the knowledge to create such things, or that they just flat out didn't do it but this person did? Give credit where it is due! It is just low to claim anyone else's work.

BINGO. Very well said. If it wern't for guys and gals like Skip, I would not have been able to do the things I have been working on. Pepakura is AWESOME to use as a base to make props from.

Still looking forward to that RC stuff brother.
-Tim-

 

[Skupilkinson]

Thanks very much buddy, I'm still going do more designs. I have some commission jobs, but I'm doing a few for myself too. If you like the Episode III Clone helmet then head over to my blog to see some pics.

As for the RC, I think I've mentioned that a friend is drawing up some plans for me of the helmet and armor. Once I have those I'll make a start. Lots to do while I wait for them though.

 

[Stormrider]

Great work. But as a rule of commerse, charging for your work to stop others from trying to make money on it is a lost model.

The only way to make others not make money from it, is to give it away free.

Now if you realized you think 'wow this is worth money' and want to get paid for it, thats another thing, and its your right entirely, but your model to 'deter copiers' is not a solid one.

By charging for it, you limit it to those that pay. Moving forward, others will have a wider base, as they can either sell it cheaper, or reach advertising avenues you can not, due to a price.

If you indeed want to 'thwart' the people copying/selling your work, make it widely known and available to any and every one interested free, then there is no need for some to buy it.

Much the way if you tried to sell alans templates at this point, you would be hard pressed for someone to purchase it. Because they are free.

That being said its nice modeling, and the fact it doesnt need to be tris and quads means its a lot easier to model than your standard 3d model, thus you have moved through this project very fast

Id love to see one of these glassed.

 

[Skupilkinson]

You see, you would think that no-one would sell something that was free elsewhere wouldn't you. However that is not always the case.

All of my previous work WAS free, making it easier for people to get it. The problem was that it was also easy for pirates to get it. This is a common thing in the papermodel community.

So, by selling my work I ensure that most of the people who come and get them are genuine. It's not about making money or I'd have higher prices.

I still offer some of my work for free, just not all of it. The Fett items I'm currently working on will be free to members here, the Halo pieces I'm doing and have done will/are free to members of the 405th forum. So if it were about money then why would I do that? I trust the members here not to abuse it by trying to sell the templates on.

As for making my work widely known. I may still be fairly new here when it comes to my contribution, but my papermodel designs are fairly widely known. That was part of the problem.

Thanks.

 

[Kwally89]

I think what Stormrider is trying to say is that no one willpay for something that is being offered for free somewhere else...I believe that you've worked hard on these as I've been on your blog numerious times....in my experience, most people don't like to have to pay for templates as they still have the hard task of assembly...and sometimes that doesn't work out haha

 

[Skupilkinson]

I understood what he ws saying, however people were paying for something that was free when I first released my RG helmet file. I posted download links for it so people could have it free of charge.

Then I find it on Ebay, being sold and there were bids. People were willing to pay because on ebay, not everyone knew about it being free elsewhere.

I understand people having trouble paying for the file when there's a chance that they may not have the skill to complete the project. However the same can be said about model kits, or costume kits where the vac form or resin cast helmets have to be assembled. This is no different except the technique is different and requires more work.

People may have to pay for some of my work but they get the base for their helmets or armor, the hard work has been done. With time, effort and patience they can have a great looking costume piece cheaper than they may get it for if they bought a pre made outfit, and they can also say tht they made it themselves.

For those that think it isn't for them then that's cool, but people have been getting the files from me so I don't think that my choice was a bad one. You say that people don't like to pay for templates, however people DO pay for papermodels and this is no different because the base is essentially a card model. It's the fibreglass and filler that turn it into something else.

Why do I feel like I have to defend my decision here?

 

[Kwally89]

I'm not arguing with your decision because all-in-all its your hard work here. I was just interpreting what the previous guy was saying...ya...everyone would like to get it for free like the WOF templates, but it kind of sucks that something like that had to happen...I kind of find it stupid to bid on a file on ebay but...that is just me...I personally have no prob buying some from you because I love the stuff you got going and I've read about every entry in your blog from june and july. Like I said...it is just too bad that someone would actually sell the file itself...I can understand selling a totally finished helmet with your permission...but the file??? Wow....some people! I'm really looking forward to the finished Hayabusa helmet and the Anubis...more Anubis!!!

 

[Skupilkinson]

I follow ya now. Sorry. I guess I just rattled over it because in the past, I've always been happy to just share my stuff for free.

Thanks for visiting the blog. I try to keep it up to date. Anubis is defenitely one I'm going to get to, but that's a biggy so I'm waiting until I can commit the time to it.

 

[Kwally89]

Haha..ya I can only imagine how long that would take me to assemble, let alone do all the leg work you're doing! I've always been into egyptology so naturally Anubis is held in high regard! I've never had the chance to revisit the Stargate movie when I was old enough to enjoy it....really looking forward to your progress!

 

[Skupilkinson]

I'm looking forward to starting it!

 

[Stormrider]

Im not arguing that you should or shouldnt sell your work. Im sure you put a lot of work into it. Im just pointing out that the model your using, if your really trying to stop the idiots from stealing/claiming it is not going to help your cause.

Post all of your documents for free. Put an add anywhere Job Bob is selling your templats, for 1/20th what he sells them for. Or virtually free. Just enough to cover the ebay fees.

If your looking for recognition, youll get it. if your looking to run them out of business, youll get it. Because there will be a point where it will not be worth their time to try to sell something thats free.

All in all, would you be mad if someone that took your design was distributing them for free? With your name? Without your name but without their name?

Personally, being a 3d artist myself, I understand why you would feel tiffed. But ultimately the only way to stop someone from selling your stuff, is to give it away.

I apologize if this or my previous post came off rude, it wasnt my intention. My point is, if someone wanted one of your models to build for themselves, they would have to purchase it. From you, or them. That leaves them in business with 50% of the market.

Even if they buy a copy from you, they can still resell it. You just make 1/xxxx of how many copies they sell.

 

[Skupilkinson]

I understand what you're saying but I'm going to stick with my decision for now. I do think it's worth the price too so I'm happy to continue, I have put time into them and I do think that a small price is Ok. As I said my prices aren't super high, I think they're reasonable. Though I still think you're missing the point. My work and other papermodels get abused like this BECAUSE they are free and easily accessable. You'll be surprised just how many people are still unaware of papermodelling and will pay because they don't know of the free original model.

Besides, out of the collection of costume related files I've created, only two of them at this time are for sale. As I've said, the Fett stuff I'm doing will be free to all, as well as the Halo stuff.

Only Boushh and the Royal Guard are for sale. No offense has been taken by what you've said, I just felt almost like I was being criticised almost for choosing to sell some of my work. It's cool, I understand your reasons now.

 

[mckenic]

Hey folks!

Thanks a million to Skip I got my Boushh done tonight... sorry for the bad pics, I think its the lighting in my bedroom. I might have made a few mistakes and I had bits left over (oops!) but this has been a FANTASTIC learning experience thus far for me - huge thanks Skip!

Anyhoo - on to the pics -

And another -

And finally -

The card I used is light-ish so the indents in the second pic will be sorted when reinforcing (I hope )

If resining, glassing and filler all go as smoothly as the build, I think I might have found a PERFECT remedy for living in a small country where materials are impossible to find!!!

Thanks again Skip!!! (sorry about the other thread - youd think I'd have a clue by now )

Dave

 

[tbone9600]

Sweet! I can't wait to do this one.

 

[Skupilkinson]

Nice job buddy. But you knew that already.