Jango Gauntlet Blades - Screencaps inside
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BoJangleFett
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O.K....this looks like a very strong reality! I'm going to sound like a pooper again...but if we go with the gear set-up, would a much larger main gear connected to smaller gears give the setup that fast WHOOSH!! Ka-CHING!
kind of pop-out?(O.K...maybe not that fast.) Reason I ask is if a small motor is concealed in the guantlet how much R.P.M. do you think would be needed and was wondering about the load capability from a taller gear to a smaller gear would be too much for a small motor. I have thought of some types of small battery operated motors from the likes of small race cars to the even smaller motors that operate toothbrushes. Both ShockWaves and MMMs designs are great even though the working designs went a little over my head at times!:rolleyes
Looking at both designs, I know both can work! Helms off to both of you!
Again, sorry about sounding off as a pooper but I'm really positive about the whole thing!
kind of pop-out?(O.K...maybe not that fast.) Reason I ask is if a small motor is concealed in the guantlet how much R.P.M. do you think would be needed and was wondering about the load capability from a taller gear to a smaller gear would be too much for a small motor. I have thought of some types of small battery operated motors from the likes of small race cars to the even smaller motors that operate toothbrushes. Both ShockWaves and MMMs designs are great even though the working designs went a little over my head at times!:rolleyesLooking at both designs, I know both can work! Helms off to both of you!
Again, sorry about sounding off as a pooper but I'm really positive about the whole thing!
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ShocKWavE
Well-Known Hunter
You have to remember this is a concept. As it is, as LEGOs, no it won't fit because it is to deep. However, the width and height are very close. I have GA gauntlets and I don't know for sure but I think they are a bit smaller than others. Now say I replace the LEGOs, which are about the width of a CD case, with sheet metal/aluminum which could be considerably thinner. Also, the gears are about the same width. Replace those with narrow gears. There are 6 layers total in the concept.
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Hopefully that comes out right. Anyways, the dotted lines are the blades. This is why I am saying the layering is still wrong (although its really not a big deal, but not accurate in my eye). Compare the blade layering to the color coded diagram I made earlier. Optimumly, this is what I want (all squished together as much as possible)...
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In any case, the Legos cause this device to be wider than it needs to.....similar to the diagram. But if you can eliminate all that space in between and narrow the main wall that they are attached to, the total depth would be decreased significantly...enough so that it should fit inside the Gauntlet. Of course there are space limitations and possible Gauntlet modifications necessary, but with something like this you should not think of why it won't work but rather why it will. That's why I asked for measurements. With them, I can create accurate dimension and perhaps a 3D CAD model of the real thing.
Regarding the torque of motors vs gears, I really don't know the answer. Mini motors like the ones for those TINY cars probably wont be enough. But bump that up to the motors for, say, a Mini RS4 or Kyosho Mini-Z, now thats definetely enough (probably too much) torque and speed.
Picture of Kyosho Mini-Z to get an idea of motor size...
Even without a motor, you could spin a gear manually (or push and pull the wide blade) and everything would pop out. With MMM's you could move the lever. A motor would be awesome, and possible, but I see it as a second phase after the mechanics are solid.
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Hopefully that comes out right. Anyways, the dotted lines are the blades. This is why I am saying the layering is still wrong (although its really not a big deal, but not accurate in my eye). Compare the blade layering to the color coded diagram I made earlier. Optimumly, this is what I want (all squished together as much as possible)...
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(Okay those took a LONG time to do
)In any case, the Legos cause this device to be wider than it needs to.....similar to the diagram. But if you can eliminate all that space in between and narrow the main wall that they are attached to, the total depth would be decreased significantly...enough so that it should fit inside the Gauntlet. Of course there are space limitations and possible Gauntlet modifications necessary, but with something like this you should not think of why it won't work but rather why it will. That's why I asked for measurements. With them, I can create accurate dimension and perhaps a 3D CAD model of the real thing.
Regarding the torque of motors vs gears, I really don't know the answer. Mini motors like the ones for those TINY cars probably wont be enough. But bump that up to the motors for, say, a Mini RS4 or Kyosho Mini-Z, now thats definetely enough (probably too much) torque and speed.
Picture of Kyosho Mini-Z to get an idea of motor size...
Even without a motor, you could spin a gear manually (or push and pull the wide blade) and everything would pop out. With MMM's you could move the lever. A motor would be awesome, and possible, but I see it as a second phase after the mechanics are solid.
Star Wars Chick
Sr Hunter
I just have to say how impressed I am with the ideas here. I would have no clue so I am glad to see others working this one out. I too am interested in one if this does become a reality. Nice work guys!!!
WOW! I am blown away by how far you guys have taken this!!! Here is the prob I see.... you are NEVER going to get that inside the right gaunt (the gaunt we see it coming out of in the film. However, the large rectangular laser housing on the LEFt gaunt would be a PERFECT place to store the motor AND gears as well as the retracted blades! The blades would simply fold out of a slot near the joint between the laser housing and the gauntlet body. I wish we could make it would on the right gaunt but I just don't see that happening... 
Megalomaniac Mando
Active Hunter
Hmmm......Just out of curiousity, could we somehow get a life-size directly-overhead pic of the fantastic-uber-cool-new-age-of-Fett gauntlets currently available? A pic of each would be sufficient. Would give an idea of the parameters to work within. If the pic could show an arm, or better yet, a well-known item (I like to use a cd) that we could judge dimensions from, it would help.
Star Wars Chick
Sr Hunter
Check my site out and see if there is something that will work for you , if not I can take more pics of those very gauntlets
ShocKWavE
Well-Known Hunter
mgr you da man!
I totally agree with the left Gauntlet being the easy one (and probably the best place to start). Now when I held this up to a Gauntlet for sizing though, I was using the right one (GA). It will not fit inside the small piece that attaches to the side, but it MAY fit inside the right Gauntlet housing itself and eject at a slight angle outward between the main Gauntlet housing and side piece.
I'm with MMM...it really comes down to measurements.
How much space is in the left gauntlet flamethrower case?
How much space is in the right gauntlet beside the arm (on the outer edge)?
LxWxH= a definite answer of how it can be done
If anyone takes these measurements, please specify which Gauntlets you are using and take internal measurements, not external.
I totally agree with the left Gauntlet being the easy one (and probably the best place to start). Now when I held this up to a Gauntlet for sizing though, I was using the right one (GA). It will not fit inside the small piece that attaches to the side, but it MAY fit inside the right Gauntlet housing itself and eject at a slight angle outward between the main Gauntlet housing and side piece.
I'm with MMM...it really comes down to measurements.
How much space is in the left gauntlet flamethrower case?
How much space is in the right gauntlet beside the arm (on the outer edge)?
LxWxH= a definite answer of how it can be done
If anyone takes these measurements, please specify which Gauntlets you are using and take internal measurements, not external.
sith camaro
Active Hunter
Just look at my post on the first page. You'll see the uber cool gauntlet that you're talking about, in my own example of the blades. Of course, it looks like I totally over reacted with the blade scale. But you'll see just how narrow it can get by the whip cord area.
Megalomaniac Mando
Active Hunter
Yeah, or straight-on pics....not 3/4 shots.
Megalomaniac Mando
Active Hunter
Actually, from Mirax's pics, I think it could actually be done with a pair of the super-gauntlets. If planned correctly, I don't think any visible outer mods need to be made. The inside would really have to be chopped-up and rebuilt though.
I have so many irons in the fire right now, that it will be a long ways down the road before I even think about attempting this. ...But I DO think it can be accomplished.
I have so many irons in the fire right now, that it will be a long ways down the road before I even think about attempting this. ...But I DO think it can be accomplished.
sith camaro
Active Hunter
Ask, and you shall receive.
Thanks secol_FETT!!
Thanks secol_FETT!!
Megalomaniac Mando
Active Hunter
Couldn't be more perfect with those views!!!! Thanks, SC. I'm even more convinced now. BTW, I'll say it again at the risk of repeating myself, but those new gauntlets are freaking amazing.
Thanks, SC. I'm even more convinced now. BTW, I'll say it again at the risk of repeating myself, but those new gauntlets are freaking amazing.
sith camaro
Active Hunter
Not to mention that the area where that metal bar goes across. That area has no possibly hay of hiding anything inside, are area between it and the gauntlet is like 1 mm!
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fsyemogushi_q
Guest
Hey Fellas. I don't know if any of you have looked but on theproppalace they say they have "deluxe gauntlets" that have "retractable metal blades." IF someone has 300 bones to drop on a set of these gauntlets we can figure out a possible solution to the engineering problem we are facing. Or if anyone knows how to get a hold of these guys to find out if they actually do retract or if its just a line that would be helpful too. Anyhow I just thought I'd drop off that information. I'm not really an engineer but I'm studying to be one and I've enjoyed studying these designs. So heres to developing a prototype.
Darth Squeet
Active Hunter
The creative talent displayed in this thread is fantastic!!
Helmets off to you guys for figuring out how-to from a bunch of pics and a few seconds screen time!!
Helmets off to you guys for figuring out how-to from a bunch of pics and a few seconds screen time!!
