FettFanatic
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I have one coming my way, so I guess we will see if it is the correct one or not. I will post up some pictures when it arrives.
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volkerc
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cool. i have one coming as well, but i'm sure you'll get yours faster than me.
volkerc
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while we are waiting for pics from FettFanatic, here is a link to an online video, posted by a musician, might give you folks some idea about the size...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61AP9uU8r5w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61AP9uU8r5w
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FettFanatic
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Well I can post up pictures if needed, but I can say that the shure slim in post #38 is not the piece we are looking for. I got one I purchased yesterday, and the lip around the top is way too thin. It is only like 1mm thick. I guess the hunt goes on.
Spideyfett
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Anyone find this yet??
Spideyfett
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Thanks V, good size reference.. an even better option than what was previously mentioned.
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I just found this thread. I am intrigued by the mic idea. I think that makes a lot of sense. It quickly made me think of the sennheiser shotguns in wide use in film production now and especially at the time of ESB. I have a mini-shotgun that is from the late 70's/ early eighties. I got it out and unscrewed it (it unscrews at the halfway point to insert the battery). I put it in the pocket and it looks pretty close. The pic here is a similar model to mine. This mic unscrews into two parts, the thinner bottom part screws into the top part (which is the part holding the diaphragm). You can see the top part is wider and has a lip at the insert where they screw together internally. When unscrewed it looks pretty much exactly like the pics of the prepro tool. The top half also happens to be exactly the right length for it to fit in that leg pouch. And it seems to be the same width.
Just to throw this out there. Seems perhaps a likely candidate. Keep in mind that this is a very common mic for film production. Maybe they had an extra dead one laying around the shop. ? I will take a pic of what mine looks like in the pocket of my BM flightsuit when I get a chance. The second attached pic shows Ben Burtt doing lightsaber foley using a Sennheiser full shotgun, probably the 816.
Just to throw this out there. Seems perhaps a likely candidate. Keep in mind that this is a very common mic for film production. Maybe they had an extra dead one laying around the shop. ? I will take a pic of what mine looks like in the pocket of my BM flightsuit when I get a chance. The second attached pic shows Ben Burtt doing lightsaber foley using a Sennheiser full shotgun, probably the 816.
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This isn't the best lighting in the world but you can see what I am talking about. This is a cheap-end Sennheiser mini shotgun circa 1980, as per my previous post, unscrewed and the top half placed in the BM flightsuit pocket upside down with the hollow opening pointed up. I think its a 416 mini shotgun, but not certain. There are various models. This seems to fit in the pocket with a very similar look as the supertrooper of the inset, but not the same as the pp2. The possibilities for this are:
1) sennheiser mic is not the right part
2) sennheiser is correct but my sennheiser is not the correct model
3) the BM pocket is not accurately the same depth as the pp2 pocket
4) S Trooper part IS a sennheiser but the pp2/esb part is not
5) pp2/esb pocket depth is different from the S Trooper pocket
or a combination of these. I am leaning towards a combination of #2 and #3 as I seriously doubt my exact model is what they used (how lucky would that be? Too lucky. I don't have that sort of luck). It is still just as likely that #1 is the reason, though. To me, the two different pp2 pics in this thread show two different thicknesses of the lip, the first one not matching with my sennheiser at all as the sennheiser lip is too thin. Then again, the second pic may appear thinner because of focal distance, so the idea of two different thicknesses just might be an optical illusion I am misinterpreting. I simply can't tell for sure. It could be as likely the tool is a simple aluminum tube. Just throwing this out for the sake of the debate. Either way, if you are going to consider microphones as the likely culprit, I think you have to take a serious look at Sennheiser mini shotguns available at the time as possible candidates.
FYI the length of the top half of my mic is right at 7 inches. Does anyone have accurate measurements for the real flight suit pockets?
An interesting comparison below... my sennheiser mini-shotgun top-half next to the traditional Don Post version of the tool. Length is very close to the same. (note that the mic is not supposed to be bent up like that... it is all wonky from decades of use and abuse).
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1) sennheiser mic is not the right part
2) sennheiser is correct but my sennheiser is not the correct model
3) the BM pocket is not accurately the same depth as the pp2 pocket
4) S Trooper part IS a sennheiser but the pp2/esb part is not
5) pp2/esb pocket depth is different from the S Trooper pocket
or a combination of these. I am leaning towards a combination of #2 and #3 as I seriously doubt my exact model is what they used (how lucky would that be? Too lucky. I don't have that sort of luck). It is still just as likely that #1 is the reason, though. To me, the two different pp2 pics in this thread show two different thicknesses of the lip, the first one not matching with my sennheiser at all as the sennheiser lip is too thin. Then again, the second pic may appear thinner because of focal distance, so the idea of two different thicknesses just might be an optical illusion I am misinterpreting. I simply can't tell for sure. It could be as likely the tool is a simple aluminum tube. Just throwing this out for the sake of the debate. Either way, if you are going to consider microphones as the likely culprit, I think you have to take a serious look at Sennheiser mini shotguns available at the time as possible candidates.
FYI the length of the top half of my mic is right at 7 inches. Does anyone have accurate measurements for the real flight suit pockets?
An interesting comparison below... my sennheiser mini-shotgun top-half next to the traditional Don Post version of the tool. Length is very close to the same. (note that the mic is not supposed to be bent up like that... it is all wonky from decades of use and abuse).
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never ending fett
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Great find...I think I read somewhere that the original found part had the top half unscrewed from it, so this is a good start towards that. While I was searching the web I hadn't even considered the shotgun mics at all due to their length, but you are definately on to something!
never ending fett
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The length definately looks good assuming the original filled the whole pocket. It almost looks like the pocket goes in, like it's not "full" about half or 3/4 of the way down. It could just be that picture, or the lighting or any number of variables. I still think you are on to something with the shotgun mic though.
stormtrooperguy
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That Sennheiser lead sounds REALLY promising... particular since there's a pic of Ben Burtt using one during filming.
slave1pilot
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OK
Here's my guess
Altec-Lansing 681A omnidirectional microphone
Dimensions are really good at 1 1/8 in. diameter at the top & 7 3/8 in. long.
Notice it's flat across the top too.
just remove the screen & unscreww the cord portion.
Here's my guess
Altec-Lansing 681A omnidirectional microphone
Dimensions are really good at 1 1/8 in. diameter at the top & 7 3/8 in. long.
Notice it's flat across the top too.
just remove the screen & unscreww the cord portion.
never ending fett
Active Hunter
I've been wondering if there was a connection since the start of this thread.
volkerc
Active Hunter
not bad.OK
Here's my guess
Altec-Lansing 681A omnidirectional microphone
Dimensions are really good at 1 1/8 in. diameter at the top & 7 3/8 in. long.
Notice it's flat across the top too.
just remove the screen & unscreww the cord portion.
never ending fett
Active Hunter
OK
Here's my guess
Altec-Lansing 681A omnidirectional microphone
Dimensions are really good at 1 1/8 in. diameter at the top & 7 3/8 in. long.
Notice it's flat across the top too.
just remove the screen & unscreww the cord portion.
since it's tapered, that could account for the "less fullness" at the bottom of the pocket...
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