Bubba Fett
Well-Known Hunter
ROFL
- True, true - It has been out at least two weeks now...
I am sure they will be coming soon enough.

I am sure they will be coming soon enough.
It may appear easy. As even I thought it would be. But it is not. Allow me to explain ...
in this pic of an MR that has been "fixed" (contained in the thread of the forum you just posted a link to) It throws off the top portion of the mandibles considerably. On the ESB "hero", the right side of the mandible should be higher than the left (orientation of the picture). It s now the opposite. And it makes the squint on the right side too large for the hero. Technically, the screen used "hero" had even mandibles. i think the hike on the right side happened after years of abuse in the exhibits. But either way, simply removing the visor and pulling out the bottom, totally ruins the image of the helmet (from what it's supposed to look like) IMO.
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To correct it properly (for the exhibit hero, or even predating that and going screen hero that is), it takes a cut, and a mod :facepalm
I got mine today, and decided to see what it would take, and soon realized that there was no way around it. So a word of warning to all MR owners - if you're contemplating it, don't do it unless you are happy with the result in the above pic. It may fix the narrow appearance at the bottom, but then it throws off the top of the mandibles as I just explained.
If you want to make the helmet appear more accurate to the hero helmet (at any point in time over the years - exhibit or screen) ...
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Then you have to make a very careful mod. Teaser shown here ...
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It's hard to see because it's a cell phone pic, but the right side mandible now rides even to the left (instead of riding MUCH lower with the simple visor removal method shown in the first pic). And, it tightened the squint ever so slightly on that side, also matching the the hero (shown above - which was the same on screen).
When I have some more time, I will post up how I did it. I just wanted to take a moment to give fair warning to pay close attention to what you're doing so as not to waste your time with an inaccurate fix.
On a side note, the helmet is not true fiberglass. It has a fiberglass lamination layer inside under the padding, but the helmet is actually compresion cast in some sort of resin ( not gel coat) ,a nd then a lamination "stamp" that was pressed inside. At first I thought it was vinyl becasue it was soooo flexible. Like a DP 95-97. The saving grace is, it won't crack that easy at the squint like a true FG lid would.
Some of my own observations about this helmet -
The visor is actually two VERY thin (almost paper thin) sheets of acetate that have been laminated together with a clear glueIt so doesn't make any sense. I can't see how that would have been cheeper than putting in a real visor
And the time it took for someone (labor) to "hand screw" about 50 little screws in there? Mind boggling.
The ear caps are HOLLOWAs hollow as they get. The RF assembly and electronics are absurd IMO. Ok for a halloween costume, but not for a "Master" replica.
Granted, it works well. But if you remove the ears, you'll see exactly what I mean. If you have no plans to, there is no need to consider what I've just said. I'm not slamming it, just stating my observation is all. If you're happy with it, that is what is important. My only problem is that MR was supposed to create an accurate replica. And in this one respect, I just can't fathom what they must have been thinking.
The paint job is very impressive for a mass produce item. Hands down the best.
All in all, I think it is a good helmet. I DO NOT believe that it is the 'Holy Grail", as some would like to lead you to believe. At least not for a "hero" helmet replica. I can't comment on pre-pro because I don't know enough about it, and don't care for it anyway. BUt for the money, it is a great piece. And will look great on display ... it certainly will be a conversation piece.
And finally, something that I thought was very odd. I fit the resin RS ears that I have up to it when I got the MR ears off of it, and they are over 1/8 th of an inch too short? So I suppose my question now is, did the MF helmet suffer some shrinkage after all? Or did the digital scan get blown up a wee bit by MR in consideration of the casting process and it possibly shrinking a bit during the process? I'm certainly not tryin to start anything. it is a legitimate question, and a thought to ponder. Hopefully, it can be answered in reasonable and responsible fashion. That's what this forum is about.
More to come if anyone is interested. And if anyone is interested in this particular helmet with the mod in place and done FOR YOU, let me know soon. Because if no one wants it, I'm not going to be as careful with it from here on outYou will need to repaint some minor details on the "green ear" side of the helmet at the squint and band. But when all is said and done, it will be a much more "true" representation of what it should have been.
FP
I would really like to remove the lip from the inside of the mandibles as well but after sizing up the flush of the face of the mandibles one would need to take down the inside of the brow as well...and that just might be a deal breaker for me. Could you address this issue Chris if you have a moment?
And just so no one gets confused as to what exactly FP is talking about, here is the previous thread in regards to this topic.. MR vs MF " you be the Judge" http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=22952
I personally think all the questions that FP has posed are warrented......they are valid questions.
My biggest concern is that these questions won't be answered fully.. and some things we will never know. Unless someone from MR directly decides to post.:rolleyes
It is also very surprising that the Ears are hollow, and that some how this "Production" version is so far off from what we've come to believe was the standard, namely the MF.