*SPOILERS* The Book of Boba Fett Discussion

[silver n black]

Really not getting getting impressed, but I am enjoying watching this episode not great just better than the last one . One thing bothers me as hell more than any gripe is him taking off his ******* helmet?he never took it off in cantina B4 why does he have to he’s helmet is his bounty hunter face, I don’t even think I take my mask off mare than him.

 

[Short4ATrooper]

Just because it’s a boba show… and we all like boba, doesn’t mean we can’t view a boba show with a critical eye

Exactly this. To be honest, I'd be shocked if I came to a forum dedicated to the character and didn't find people picking apart every little detail - it's kind of what we do

 

[Mythos Fenn]

RBF, yes, there were 1000% some comment back and forths in this thread that do not belong in this forum.

That said, there are a lot of very valid reasons, points and observations of the characters, story, continuity, etc, that are pretty valid reasons for some members not to view the first 2 episodes as a fantastic, magical show, though we all know it will get better.

You stated you didn’t read all the comments… aNd I don’t blame you, once you get to the poodoo slinging ones lol

But tucked between those posts that took over the thread, unfortunately… were actually pretty good points for wHy some of us aren’t enjoying it as much.

Just because it’s a boba show… and we all like boba, doesn’t mean we can’t view a boba show with a critical eye

Exactly. What I find mildly irritating is how bad of a rep Star Wars fans get because we "complain" about stuff/ are vocal about things that we don't like and how "we just can't be happy that they are making more Star Wars stuff". Which is a valid point - but I feel like as literally giant life long Star Wars fans, we want good quality content with compelling stories and stories that do long time fan favorite characters justice. Simply putting a Star Wars label on something does not all of a sudden make something go from mediocre to amazing. That is not how that works, nor should it.

Honestly, I feel like I find too many people that want to give Star Wars a pass on good story telling because it is Star Wars and I feel like that might be part of the problem here. More does not always equal better. There were a lot of EU stories and some even revolving around Boba Fett that were absolutely terrible and others that were absolutely amazing. I think Disney has dropped the ball here slightly by simply ignoring literal decades worth of amazing story telling simply to do their own story or character development and generally not as great and then complain that the fans ruined it lol

I will still and always point to LOTR and Harry Potter as amazing adaptations of a beloved source material - sure, are there are mega fans, like us in the Boba Fett community, that will find things that could or should have been done better but those movies are absolutely stunning and are beloved by both mega fans and common fans alike for a reason - they stayed true to what fans of the originals loved and as a result, straight up knocked it out of the park with the movie adaptations.

 

[Rue1977]

I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan as well but definitely never felt the movies or shows are above criticism. I railed against the prequels a couple decades ago, but always kept my comments about the writing and plot. I've never said anything against Lloyd, Best, or Christianson. I get the criticisms but while I think there is nothing wrong with fans expressing their dissatisfaction, the issue is more about the form some of their complaints take. Hell, I still have issues with ROTJ and lament what could have been had Lucas not decided to scrap the final trilogy and put everything into episode 6. (I don't say anything against the sequels though. It's just far too much for me to sift through.) And any fan of Fett should probably sympathize at least a little since he would have been such a bigger deal.

I also don't feel this show is at all perfect. Some of the plotting and writing is pretty clunky. The street fight scene's editing left a lot to be desired. I get that it would have been nice for Boba's body shape to match the OT when he first emerged from the sarlacc, and that's something I'll put on the director for not using someone else in the suit more than Morrison. I also totally get that people want him to wear the helmet more/all the time. I just read an interview with him talking about how happy he is when he gets to take it off, and clearly it's something he pushes for more and more.

I dunno, the best thing about the sequel trilogy for me was it finally got me to realize I don't have to love all Star Wars. I've enjoyed some of the Disney stuff quite a bit, and I am enjoying this show as well. But I'm okay just blowing off the parts that don't hit home with me as much. Even aspects of the PT and sometimes ROTJ.

Don't even get me started on Harry Potter and LOTR though, heh. (in a positive way I mean)

 

[Short4ATrooper]

I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan as well but definitely never felt the movies or shows are above criticism. I railed against the prequels a couple decades ago, but always kept my comments about the writing and plot. I've never said anything against Lloyd, Best, or Christianson. I get the criticisms but while I think there is nothing wrong with fans expressing their dissatisfaction, the issue is more about the form some of their complaints take. Hell, I still have issues with ROTJ and lament what could have been had Lucas not decided to scrap the final trilogy and put everything into episode 6. (I don't say anything against the sequels though. It's just far too much for me to sift through.) And any fan of Fett should probably sympathize at least a little since he would have been such a bigger deal.

I also don't feel this show is at all perfect. Some of the plotting and writing is pretty clunky. The street fight scene's editing left a lot to be desired. I get that it would have been nice for Boba's body shape to match the OT when he first emerged from the sarlacc, and that's something I'll put on the director for not using someone else in the suit more than Morrison. I also totally get that people want him to wear the helmet more/all the time. I just read an interview with him talking about how happy he is when he gets to take it off, and clearly it's something he pushes for more and more.

I dunno, the best thing about the sequel trilogy for me was it finally got me to realize I don't have to love all Star Wars. I've enjoyed some of the Disney stuff quite a bit, and I am enjoying this show as well. But I'm okay just blowing off the parts that don't hit home with me as much. Even aspects of the PT and sometimes ROTJ.

Don't even get me started on Harry Potter and LOTR though, heh. (in a positive way I mean)

I appreciate quite a bit of what you’ve written here and agree. I also liked some of the sequel stuff - I went to see TfA at the cinema and I loved it, I almost cried when I saw the falcon fly again and despite the criticism that it was a re-hash of ANH, I felt it was the right move. Get the look and feel right, and stick to a simple story. I won’t go into what followed with the other 2…

The sequel and prequel trilogies are both parts of Star Wars I’m happy to ignore and blow off as you say, it’s not that I feel like I have to love all Star Wars, it’s just frustrating as a fan to always have to wait for so long for new content, and to get excited and think “we’ve waited so long, so I’m sure it’s going to be great!” Only to be let down, knowing you’re in for another long wait before getting anything else to feel hopeful for.

 

[Steveboski]

I think both of the above comments highlight something we all must process through. Realizing we don't have to like all of it, and dealing with let down when we personally don't really like the content produced.

I know we all have different opinions about different parts of SW, but fett fans discussing a fett show on a fett forum (love or hate) is very cool to me. What a time to be alive, as they say. I hope we can get to episode 7 and find some satisfaction for everyone, but it's not going to change my opinion about Fett, Filoni, etc. Thirty years ago I never would have guessed I'd be watching a fett show, so I'll enjoy the parts I can and enjoy discussing the rest with you all.

 

[Rue1977]

I appreciate quite a bit of what you’ve written here and agree. I also liked some of the sequel stuff - I went to see TfA at the cinema and I loved it, I almost cried when I saw the falcon fly again and despite the criticism that it was a re-hash of ANH, I felt it was the right move. Get the look and feel right, and stick to a simple story. I won’t go into what followed with the other 2…

The sequel and prequel trilogies are both parts of Star Wars I’m happy to ignore and blow off as you say, it’s not that I feel like I have to love all Star Wars, it’s just frustrating as a fan to always have to wait for so long for new content, and to get excited and think “we’ve waited so long, so I’m sure it’s going to be great!” Only to be let down, knowing you’re in for another long wait before getting anything else to feel hopeful for.

I'll admit I did enjoy some of the ST. TFA wasn't super satisfying, but I was ready for them to take it in a new direction after something so fan servicy. And I freely admit some of the fan service struck me pretty hard, especially since I got to see it with my kids. I didn't know how to feel when I watched TLJ but came to appreciate it more than a lot of fans. I also never blamed anyone for not liking it; it was a major departure (if nothing else...it's STILL bizarre to me to have a Star Wars movie with slow motion AND flashbacks). I also put far too much on TROS as I felt if it was outstanding, it would only lift the other two up a lot higher. Finish strong, bring it all together, and it will make the other two be seen in a new light. In a nutshell, I didn't find it remotely outstanding.

it's funny because Star Wars was such a big part of my childhood. In high school, I was the only one still wearing star wars shirts (always Boba Fett), and I always had people point at me and comment "Oh yeah, I remember those movies, I loved those" like they were ancient relics already heh. And the PT, I saw all of them in the theater multiple times. TPM I saw nine times really only because everyone I knew HAD to see it with their Star Wars fan friend, so I kept going hoping to see something I hadn't before and get it to click... I definitely enjoyed them but not in that deep way I did with the OT. Part of it was my age, and I recognized the PT wasn't for me but the next generation. The more I thought about what could have been, tweaks and plots that could have made it better etc, the more I disliked them to the point where I had to question if I was even really a fan when I don't enjoy so much of the saga. My son was born before the Disney deal, and I showed him the original and his love for it really kicked me hard back into the whole thing. He loved the OT so much. There was even one day where he asked me to put on Star Wars and I thought, well...he's seen them so many times, maybe I'll try TPM this time. He watched a few minutes before he said, "Uh, I said Star Wars." (He's since grown into a massive CW fan though, and definitely appreciates aspects of AOTC and ROTS.)

This show...if they had told me two years ago about it, I would have said "nah, don't." That was exactly how I felt about the movie they canned. Part of it is surely Boba being too precious to me, but also I didn't have any faith in them delivering what I wanted to see. When he showed up on Mandalorian, that definitely turned me around. And again, this show isn't what I expected. I didn't know what to expect, but it wasn't quite this. Even with the trailers. But there are parts I'm REALLY enjoying. Like I said, I never would have thought I'd get this into Tusken Raiders. I think I've finally warmed up to this new costume (still prefer the one from The Rescue though) and without noticing, I have accepted his voice and face as Boba Fett as well.

 

[Steveboski]

Just got through a rewatch of episode 2. Being a big Lawrence of Arabia fan, I have to say, the homage is very cool to me. I like that they're building on giving dignity to the Tuskens, and really working to establish Fett's motive. I also really liked the stop motion work with the conductor droid.

I'm really coming around to the show, if ep3 packs the same punch, I'll be locked in. Even if fett is a different man now, if we get to see him really lay it down later (even if it's only against bad guys from now on) then I'll be psyched.

 

[Brigandia85]

Hi, I am new on this forum but not on the RPF, I am disapointed with the 1st episode, but I notice some collectors item like with:

I hope those coins will appear soon on the market.

 

[B0BA FETT]

Hi, I am new on this forum but not on the RPF, I am disapointed with the 1st episode, but I notice some collectors item like with:
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I hope those coins will appear soon on the market.

I would imagine so, Disney love a bit of Merch. They will probably be chocolate though.

 

[Mottrex]

I would imagine so, Disney love a bit of Merch. They will probably be chocolate though.

Yeah but everyone likes chocolate.
I remember for the prequels they brought out SW choc biscuits in the shape of the characters..I used duplicating gel and cast a few. I still have one of Jar Jar somewhere ?

 

[Mottrex]

Just got through a rewatch of episode 2. Being a big Lawrence of Arabia fan, I have to say, the homage is very cool to me. I like that they're building on giving dignity to the Tuskens, and really working to establish Fett's motive. I also really liked the stop motion work with the conductor droid.

I'm really coming around to the show, if ep3 packs the same punch, I'll be locked in. Even if fett is a different man now, if we get to see him really lay it down later (even if it's only against bad guys from now on) then I'll be psyched.

I really like these Tuskys and enjoyed ep2 a lot.. its been compared to other stories but hey there is only a finite amount of stories you can tell.isnt it traditionally thought there are only six.. I loved the Speederbikes heist and think the show is improving every week..
Looking forward to Ep3
It still Amazes me that I can still watch content from my favourite movie and characters I first met in a Dimly lit cinema full of cigarette smoke and popcorn back in 77..

 

[B0BA FETT]

It still Amazes me that I can still watch content from my favourite movie and characters I first met in a Dimly lit cinema full of cigarette smoke and popcorn back in 77..

That’s a great way of looking at it, even if it’s not met some peoples expectations yet.

I am looking forward to the next episode.

 

[RBF]

RBF, yes, there were 1000% some comment back and forths in this thread that do not belong in this forum.

That said, there are a lot of very valid reasons, points and observations of the characters, story, continuity, etc, that are pretty valid reasons for some members not to view the first 2 episodes as a fantastic, magical show, though we all know it will get better.

You stated you didn’t read all the comments… aNd I don’t blame you, once you get to the poodoo slinging ones lol

But tucked between those posts that took over the thread, unfortunately… were actually pretty good points for wHy some of us aren’t enjoying it as much.

Just because it’s a boba show… and we all like boba, doesn’t mean we can’t view a boba show with a critical eye

All true and I'm sorry if I came across as someone saying we should all think it's really good. I just tried to convey how I experience it. I can totally understand if you have read all the comics/books and Disney comes out with something completely different, also basically saying: what you have always liked never happened. That in itself can cause some hick ups in liking something like this.

I also think the Mandalorian was a 'safer' way to make a show. It was all fresh characters etc. Using a fan favorite character as Boba and working him out is gonna be stepping on some toes left ways or right ways. I think a lot of the 'older' fans all loved the mystery the character had. That was already violated with the prequels. And in that point of view I guess this show just makes it worse, because it's more unravelling of the mystery that is Boba Fett, regardless of whether it's done right or not. I don't experience it as such and I really like the character development. That plus experiencing this with my family is really something special. I love the Book of Boba Fett so far and cannot wait to see more

I did feel that way about Solo; it was the story of Han becoming a caring person, what was already told in the OT. Also, every tense moment; gee... think they'll make it...? Still enjoyed it, but not as much. From this entire universe, why tell a story about Han Solo... we already know everything we need to know right?

So I can understand not everybody is gonna be over the moon as much as I am, that is a personal thing. But like you confirmed... I was shocked by the seriously negative comments and a Boba Fett forum filled with fans was not the place I'd expect to find that.

Anyways, thanks for your reply It's appreciated!

 

[Short4ATrooper]

I was shocked by the seriously negative comments and a Boba Fett forum filled with fans was not the place I'd expect to find that.

See, this is exactly the place I would expect to find negative comments. We love the character, it’s completely understandable that everyone here would be holding this series to the highest standards and scrutinising every single detail.

Now I’ve had time for the first 2 episodes to sink in and go around my mind a few times, I’m still not impressed so far but I’ve accepted that it is what it is and I’m going to just try my best to enjoy it.

 

[Mythos Fenn]

RBF I think a part of the problem of this show is as you mentioned - they are unraveling the mystery of Boba Fett which is what is the main problem with long time fans - specially since they are just ignoring a lot, if not most, of what made Boba such a draw to fans in the past.

One of the giant main problems with Star Wars, at least in my opinion, is explaining things or showing things that don't need showing or explaining in the first place. This is what the prequels did horribly for pretty much every single character in the original trilogy and the majority of them either made the character worse or made the character way more confusing. For example....
C3PO: not a protocol droid in use by the Rebel Alliance, happens to be built by Darth Vader

R2D2: super powered astromech that can fly and do a lot of other amazing things - literally only ever rolls around in the OT and occasionally zaps things

Boba Fett: literally just a clone of Jango Fett, instead of simply being his biological son who not only lost his mother but also his father - right in front of him, which makes things way more confusing/complicated, specially if wanting to use that character again on screen and making him a clone literally erases the mystique of the menacing "man behind the armor" in literally the worst way possible as we've now already seen that exact same character die

Anakin: annoying young adult with not enough corruption time on screen, IMO, also his backstory doesn't really line up with Obi-Wan's story, even a little bit, in the OT nor does the death of Padme with the children

Obi-Wan: pretty cool backstory, if I'm being honest, but timeline wise (age) fails miserably to line up with the OT timeline.

Also - going along with the backstory for things that don't need a backstory..... don't even get me started on the Solo movie lol. It was a super entertaining movie to watch for sure but I think it failed miserably to be a Han Solo origin story. If the main character was literally anyone else, I think it would have been fantastic, perhaps make it even a Dash Rendar movie with a young Harrison Ford CGI cameo. However, as a Han Solo movie - I just think it failed to do any justice to the character of Han Solo.

 

[Short4ATrooper]

RBF I think a part of the problem of this show is as you mentioned - they are unraveling the mystery of Boba Fett which is what is the main problem with long time fans - specially since they are just ignoring a lot, if not most, of what made Boba such a draw to fans in the past.

One of the giant main problems with Star Wars, at least in my opinion, is explaining things or showing things that don't need showing or explaining in the first place. This is what the prequels did horribly for pretty much every single character in the original trilogy and the majority of them either made the character worse or made the character way more confusing. For example....
C3PO: not a protocol droid in use by the Rebel Alliance, happens to be built by Darth Vader

R2D2: super powered astromech that can fly and do a lot of other amazing things - literally only ever rolls around in the OT and occasionally zaps things

Boba Fett: literally just a clone of Jango Fett, instead of simply being his biological son who not only lost his mother but also his father - right in front of him, which makes things way more confusing/complicated, specially if wanting to use that character again on screen and making him a clone literally erases the mystique of the menacing "man behind the armor" in literally the worst way possible as we've now already seen that exact same character die

Anakin: annoying young adult with not enough corruption time on screen, IMO, also his backstory doesn't really line up with Obi-Wan's story, even a little bit, in the OT nor does the death of Padme with the children

Obi-Wan: pretty cool backstory, if I'm being honest, but timeline wise (age) fails miserably to line up with the OT timeline.

Also - going along with the backstory for things that don't need a backstory..... don't even get me started on the Solo movie lol. It was a super entertaining movie to watch for sure but I think it failed miserably to be a Han Solo origin story. If the main character was literally anyone else, I think it would have been fantastic, perhaps make it even a Dash Rendar movie with a young Harrison Ford CGI cameo. However, as a Han Solo movie - I just think it failed to do any justice to the character of Han Solo.

Completely agree with all of this, I said much the same on Reddit and was downvoted to hell.

My point was the same as what you’ve said with regards to not needing to explain everything. That’s what made a lot of the background characters and the scenery in the OT so cool and interesting as a kid. The whole universe had a lived in and beat up look so it felt like there was a rich history there. I’m not saying to never explore stories within the wider universe but you have to be very careful doing it.

I’m not sure what the disconnect is with BOBF because from what I understand, it’s all much the same people involved as Mando (Favreau & Filoni at least anyway) and Mando was handled very well. BOBF just comes across like they’ve completely misunderstood the character or they’ve been forced to make him a lot more palatable for younger audiences and are just doing the best they can with a poor storyline.

 

[ShortFuse]

RBF I think a part of the problem of this show is as you mentioned - they are unraveling the mystery of Boba Fett which is what is the main problem with long time fans - specially since they are just ignoring a lot, if not most, of what made Boba such a draw to fans in the past.

One of the giant main problems with Star Wars, at least in my opinion, is explaining things or showing things that don't need showing or explaining in the first place. This is what the prequels did horribly for pretty much every single character in the original trilogy and the majority of them either made the character worse or made the character way more confusing. For example....
C3PO: not a protocol droid in use by the Rebel Alliance, happens to be built by Darth Vader

R2D2: super powered astromech that can fly and do a lot of other amazing things - literally only ever rolls around in the OT and occasionally zaps things

Boba Fett: literally just a clone of Jango Fett, instead of simply being his biological son who not only lost his mother but also his father - right in front of him, which makes things way more confusing/complicated, specially if wanting to use that character again on screen and making him a clone literally erases the mystique of the menacing "man behind the armor" in literally the worst way possible as we've now already seen that exact same character die

Anakin: annoying young adult with not enough corruption time on screen, IMO, also his backstory doesn't really line up with Obi-Wan's story, even a little bit, in the OT nor does the death of Padme with the children

Obi-Wan: pretty cool backstory, if I'm being honest, but timeline wise (age) fails miserably to line up with the OT timeline.

Also - going along with the backstory for things that don't need a backstory..... don't even get me started on the Solo movie lol. It was a super entertaining movie to watch for sure but I think it failed miserably to be a Han Solo origin story. If the main character was literally anyone else, I think it would have been fantastic, perhaps make it even a Dash Rendar movie with a young Harrison Ford CGI cameo. However, as a Han Solo movie - I just think it failed to do any justice to the character of Han Solo.

I agree about the Solo movie being a better fit for another character. I feel the same way about the BOBF. The story would be great for another/new character, but not Boba Fett.

 

[B0BA FETT]

I have found that there is a BIG difference with review’s for the BOBF between Star Wars fans and Star Wars Boba Fett fans.

 

[Mythos Fenn]

I have found that there is a BIG difference with review’s for the BOBF between Star Wars fans and Star Wars Boba Fett fans.

Yeah the sounds about right. It's not BAD by any means all together - but it just isn't geared first and foremost to the people that live and breath it. If you are going to make a show about one specific character - you really need to invest the time in making sure you do it justice for the people that love that character, in my opinion. If the giant mega fans love the great story you tell with that character - I would say there is almost a 100% chance that it will get good ratings with everyone else as well.