ROTJ vs ROTJ SE

[Steveboski]

Quick question for everyone. I'm building a standard ROTJ and I've noticed a difference between the cod armor paint on the templates vs what is shown in the galleries. One is labeled ROTJ hero and the other SE (being the ROTJ for the most part). Almost every build I've seen on here seems to be using the SE paint layout which is what Raf's template lays out. Are they both acceptable for ROTJ?

://www.thedentedhelmet.com/forums/media/boba-fett-costume.3265/

 

[Greg Schlueter]

Steve, So here is what I am doing. I am building the Promo Shoot SE. Which has the ESB helmet with all the extra damage. The chest armor is esb but painted up with the ROTJ paint scheme. I followed the ROTJ SE pics along with Raf's stencils. On the SE the left knee is the PP2 knee. The shoulder bells have some different weathering for the promo shoot but ROTJ paint scheme.
As for being acceptable for ROTJ check the 501st CRL.

 

[RafalFett]

That cod plate you posted doesn't belong to the ROTJ Hero suit (it was part of one of the ESB Promo suits). With my stencils I tried to recreate as close as possible the ROTJ Hero scheme, but with small changes it can be used for the ROTJ SE too. I strongly recommend to use the reference material from the TDH Gallery ==>Boba Fett Return of the Jedi | Boba Fett Costume and Prop Maker Community - The Dented Helmet.

 

[Steveboski]

Thanks for the clarification. The gallery indicated that both were ROTJ, so I was very confused. Big thank you for all your work, I reference it constantly.

 

[Neo Fett]

Thanks for the clarification. The gallery indicated that both were ROTJ, so I was very confused. Big thank you for all your work, I reference it constantly.

The rest of the costume in that gallery is ROTJ, whoever gathered the costume from storage for display just grabbed the wrong cod plate. In every display of the costume there is at least one part that doesn't match correctly because the average person isn't as crazy as us. Best to reference movie source material to find out what parts are accurate, then use the gallery to find good close up parts from various exhibits.

 

[RafalFett]

The rest of the costume in that gallery is ROTJ, whoever gathered the costume from storage for display just grabbed the wrong cod plate. In every display of the costume there is at least one part that doesn't match correctly because the average person isn't as crazy as us. Best to reference movie source material to find out what parts are accurate, then use the gallery to find good close up parts from various exhibits.

That's not entirely true. The right chest plate is not the ROTJ Hero (it doesn't have a dent), the jetpack is from the ESB Promo #2 suit (the ROTJ Hero jetpack is on the AoSW/C-IV suit - or ROTJ SE), the left knees and the right gauntlet is from one of the ROTJ stunt suits:

 

[Neo Fett]

That's not entirely true. The right chest plate is not the ROTJ Hero (it doesn't have a dent), the jetpack is from the ESB Promo #2 suit (the ROTJ Hero jetpack is on the AoSW/C-IV suit - or ROTJ SE), the left knees and the right gauntlet is from one of the ROTJ stunt suits:
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I've never been to great at the differences between ROTJ hero and stunt, so that's helpful.

I was also under the impression that ROTJ jetpack and SE were different, but I know they used a few packs in ROTJ so I guess that confused me.

 

[Steveboski]

I really appreciate you guys lending your expertise.

Do we have a gallery for a complete ROTJ workup that contains closeups of individual components? Even if the gallery had to be shots from multiple exhibits where necessary, that would be invaluable to those of us just starting out. I'll admit that I'm pretty lost at this point, I've gone down the road pretty far on painting and I'm not sure I can rely on what any given gallery labels the armor. Especially now that the 501st is updating the crl.

 

[bh19812]

RafalFett can you clarify the dent on the right chest is for the hero stunt or something entirely different maybe SC or one of the promos ? Which one should have the actual dent not just the damage for it ?

 

[Greg Schlueter]

RafalFett can you clarify the dent on the right chest is for the hero stunt or something entirely different maybe SC or one of the promos ? Which one should have the actual dent not just the damage for it ?

So ROTJ SE Screen and Promo used the ESB armor but used the Rotj paint scheme. Per the CRL.

 

[bh19812]

So ROTJ SE Screen and Promo used the ESB armor but used the Rotj paint scheme. Per the CRL.

That still leaves me confused. Lol Should rotj hero have the dent? Thats my build. If I need it I’ll add it because my armor does not have it now.

 

[Greg Schlueter]

That still leaves me confused. Lol Should rotj hero have the dent? Thats my build. If I need it I’ll add it because my armor does not have it now.

I would check with the crl guys

 

[toofastrobot]

That still leaves me confused. Lol Should rotj hero have the dent? Thats my build. If I need it I’ll add it because my armor does not have it now.

Yes.

 

[bh19812]

Yes.

Thank you.
Thanks Also Greg Schlueter

 

[RafalFett]

RafalFett can you clarify the dent on the right chest is for the hero stunt or something entirely different maybe SC or one of the promos ? Which one should have the actual dent not just the damage for it ?

Only the ROTJ hero had the dent in the right chest plate, the rest of the right chest plates are dentless.

 

[RafalFett]

So ROTJ SE Screen and Promo used the ESB armor but used the Rotj paint scheme. Per the CRL.

Maybe just the left chest plate from the ESB Hero, the rest (at least most of it) is from the Pre-Pro #1 armor:

More about the changes is in this thread ==> The Fate Of The Twin Armors: Pre-Pro #1, Pre-Pro #3 and ESB and here ==> The Boba Fett Suit Fact Files.

 

[bh19812]

Only the ROTJ hero had the dent in the right chest plate, the rest of the right chest plates are dentless.

Ok I put the dent in:

 

[Greg Schlueter]

Ok I put the dent in:
Missing dent is in

Looks good

 

[bh19812]

Looks good

Thanks that’s the fourth dent I’ve had to put in. What a mess

 

[Greg Schlueter]

Thanks that’s the fourth dent I’ve had to put in. What a mess

Ya I had to remove a dent on the chest armor. And had to turn the left knee into the PP2 version adding a removing dents.