Official ESB Boba Fett Blaster Thread

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Boba Phett

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McMaster Carr industrial distributors sells the clamps online. These particular ones which are close but, not perfect. They are most likely now made by Norma Clamp in the UK. This style of clamp has been around for at least 30 years in the auto industry. They are typically found on radiator hoses and such on real cars as well as other heating and air conditioning type devices. I have the rod type spring variation version as orginal equipment on my 71 Challenger R/T (McMaster also has this style on the same page of the catalog). The ones on the gun are the flat band type. Notice the ones on the gun have no opening in the side like the sample pic I posted. They do make sizes that'll work over the gun. The only question is how do they mount the scope brackets to them? The two clamps just slip over the flash tube and onto the gun barrel itself. But they provide no mounting location for the scope brackets. Other than a place to spot weld onto the clamp without permanently welding onto the gun. If you look at what they added to the gun in ESB it is all removable. Someone earlier mentioned that the prop house loaned the gun out to LFL for the movie then probably took it back and undid the mods. By the time ROTJ came out they just went with a casting of the base gun so they could alter it more permanently without having to pay for a real Webley. -Mark
 
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DL44 Blaster

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Mark,
Maybe there were some sort of "tabs" that were affixed to the scope mounts(Molex connectors included)and they went under the hose clamps and held the scope on....front,and back mounts.It would seem rather crude,but I'm trying to figure out how they could have done it.Granted a spot weld would have worked,and been best,but there would be potential damage to the weapon if it was ideed on loan.If it was all originally put together with the intention of being taken apart,the methods would probably have been fairly crude,and since Fett didn't have even alot of screen time in ESB the EE-3 wouldn't have to hold together as solid as a rock,which is what we all want ;)

Thoughts???

Steve
 
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Boba Phett

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I meant they would spot weld onto the clamps so as to not touch the gun. -Mark
 
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Bountys Hunted

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So, it sounds like these clamps, put 'em on the barrel and spot weld the scope onto them and we're set?
 
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Boba Phett

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There would still need to be some intermediate bracket to mount the Molex conectors and the the scope rings onto. This intermediate bracket would either be spot welded to the spring clamps or as DL44 mentioned slipped underneath the top of the spring clamp. -Mark
 
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Boba Phett

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Which scope? The Simmons or ASI? The Simmons you can find on Ebay. The ASI there is only one person who is known to have one and are impossible to find. -Mark
 
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Boba Phett

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Warning!!! Long load time for dialups!!!
Here are some pics I cropped from the Ref CD.








Here is a pic of the Split-Plugs for the stock:


Here is a pic for a stripped down MPP Tube for the barrel:
 
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steveday72

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My current progress follows next, but firstly here's my original posting to the RPF I made last December...

steveday72 said:
steveday72
(12/12/02 1:21 am)
prop-planet.com - This website is for sale! - prop-planet Resources and Information.


I've been examining the barrel clamps, trying to find a match and I think I've found the type of clamp they used - just a slightly different design:

From McMaster-Carr...
( McMaster-Carr )

Wide-Band Self-Tightening Spring Hose Clamps



From page: http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/108/html/0202.html

Cheers

Steve
[HOSE CLAMPS]
Currently, I'm still looking for self-tightening hose clamps that don't have the cut away sections on each side - I've been trawling through the tools at Pawn shops, but have only been able to find the part shown above.

They are not oil wrenches as was once suggested, as they are not thick enough and too large in diameter - even the old ones I've managed to find are at least 3" in diameter (the sizes needed for the ESB blaster are 1.5" and around 1.87" in diameters).

I am going to re-examine all of my old research and see if I can see any extra details that might suggest another part, but until then, they appear to be self-tightening hose clamps.


[MOLEX CONNECTORS]
The connectors (identified by TrooperExpert of the RPF) that Molex currently make are not identical to the ones used on Boba Fett's ESB Blastech EE-3, as they have since changed the design of their connectors. The new/current design is keyed - that is, it has two notches on one side of the female connector and two ridges on one side of the male connector - this prevents them from being inserted the wrong way around. (See the diagram below):

Molex_-_42022-6A_(050-84-2060).gif

Diagram, Top to Bottom: Female Connector (Perspective view); Female Connector (Side view); Male Connector (Front view)


The type we need is the female connector (1st and 2nd on diagram) - so the notches will have to be filled with Bondo (car body filler).

The other change to the connectors is the type of latching mechanism used. This is a completely different design and requires quite a bit of cutting and filing to remove the current parts (see photo) and put on a scratch built piece that looks like the original prop.

The current Molex connectors (42022 series) of this type only come in White/Natural, Brick Red and White, so the whole thing will have to be sprayed black anyway - which will help to hide the modifications needed.


[RIFLE SCOPE & RINGS]
Now, onto the scope - I've been scouring eBay for the past month or so and have only seen a couple of alternatives with the correct scope rings. The last one was a "Marlin Micro-Vue 4x" (4x20 I believe) and you can see this item still listed on ebay (click here to see it).

As Fettcicle said in a few messages back, there is another good match available, though it doesn't have the correct rings. That scope is a Simmons 4x20. The raised area where the adjustment knobs are fitted is slightly larger than the original ASI 4x20, but it does have the correct 3/4" diameter scope body. The best news is that they're cheap ($10 or less on eBay).

The scope rings could easily be made with sheet metal (Aluminum is easier to work with) and a few Socket head cap screws. When I get around to building mine (not for at least 3 months as I'm working on a few projects at the moment), I'll make a template and upload it.

[STOCK "PLUGS"]
Oh - the stock plate "split plugs" - they're not UK electrical plugs, as I used to live in the UK and was an electrician for quite a few years.

UK electrical plugs are large and bulky, with three long rectangular pegs sticking out the back. The photos shown look more like a kind of 2-pin European electrical plug - or possibly, as has been suggested before, an AM aerial plug.

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I'm glad other people are looking at these details now, as it's tough working alone. ;)

Steve
 
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steveday72

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ESB Blaster blocks... NOT A MOLEX 42022-6.

I've found a much better match than the Molex #42022-6, it even has the correct tabs.

http://ecommas.tycoelectronics.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=showdoc&DocId=Customer+Drawing163035BpdfEnglishENG_CD_163035_B.pdf

Click on the image to view the original PDF drawing...


AMP_1-163035-0.gif

It's an AMP .200" Commercial MATE-N-LOK 6 way pin-housing with a latch locking mechanism. AMP part# 1-163035-0.

The measurements are within 0.045" on the length. The other dimensions are within 0.02" at the most.

The only difference I can see is that pins 1-3 are in the opposite order, while pins 4-6 are the same.

Sadly, it's only available in the "natural" (whiteish) color, but the original part was probably black.

Steve
 
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Lordsandy

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DL44 Blaster...Steve,

Hows it going? Glad to see the interest is up on the ESB Fett Blaster!

You are right about the scope......

There is zero doubt that the ASI scope I have is a 100% match to the ROTJ scope.

I believe the ESB scope is also an ASI but we just dont have the pics available for comparison as we do on the ROTJ.

As far as I can see they are the same and that makes sense to me...:)

I have located two of these scopes.....so they are out there.

Atleast you know what to look for......;)

Good luck,

Jim S.
 
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Boba Freekk

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i remember a thread on the barrel lenghth but i did a search and came up with nothing.i couldnt find anything on the stock length either.can anyone help?
 
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Boba Freekk

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ok i found the thread giving the barrel length, but im still looking for the stock length.
 
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Nerf Herder

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Freekk - I just took a measurement from my own Webley stock and came up with roughly 11 inches on both the top and bottom ridges, without the additional length of the stock bracket. Please let me know if any further clarification is needed on this:)
 
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Seven

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Has any one found the stock plug yet? Any luck?
 
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steveday72

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seventhz777z wrote:

Has any one found the stock plug yet? Any luck?
I'm going to scratch build one and make resin copies of it, as it looks like this part isn't going to be tracked down anytime soon (if it's still available).

Steve
 
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