haha was searching for the interior with the proper cradle and chin cup! surely, you've have to make some progress over the past couple years??Wow! How did you even find this thread!!!
Interior was put on hold whilst painting the exterior. Easier to handle the helmet without all the stuff rattling about inside.
The truth is that I simply do not know. Certainly this cradle was in it when efx had it and obviously it was in that photo, which is relatively old but post filming. The ROTJ helmet originally had a piece of open cell foam taped in but latterly had the same type of cradle attached. This same item has also been seen in ROTJ Stormtrooper helmets. My suspicion is that this photo was taken in the early 90s or late 80s; it was the photo that was available to me when trying to recreate this aspect.Great build! I'm looking to do the same when my Hero Lid from MF arrives Two questions:
Did you glue in the liner already?
Somebody (with access to the LFL archive) told me that this liner was used only for SE but not for ESB or RotJ. Any thoughts on this?
The only other thing worth mentioning is the construction of the cradle itself. The model used on both the ESB and ROTJ helmet has the webbing tape threaded directly through the detachable plastic delta shapes that detach from the headband. If you look at post #5 this will make more sense.Thanks, Andy. Yes, I've noticed that the RotJ TKs had them as well and they were also glued in (which I found a bit unusual). I've just ordered a really inexpensive construction helmet on ebay that has quite a similiar liner I plan to use. The only thing I'll need to change is the webbing against a 19mm herringbone nylon webbing and it should be just like the original.
Interesting...do you have an image of the RotJ foam (liner)?The helmet pre and post Empire had only the chin cup and some taped in foam (we have only the ROTJ helmet as proof). I assume that in the pre production of ROTJ they added the cradle to the ESB and ROTJ helmets, as this film included some stunt scenes and the helmet had to stay in place. Because initially (from what we assume here on TDH) they wanted to use the ESB helmet for ROTJ, the helmet was cast and at least 2 stunt helmets were produced. Because the hero helmet was damaged before or during the casting process they changed it with the ROTJ one.