ok.. seriously? This thread has gotten WAAYYY off topic. The man asked about how BM Shoulder Bells compare to WOF Large templates bells. My guess is that he wanted to know about size and shape and the difference between them. Not, who's is better, inferior, cheaper, expensive.. and American or European. Buy American? Are you kidding me? He's not buying a car for pete's sake. He's asking about a couple of fellow TDH members shoulder bells. A couple of members that are very well respected I might add. We're here to support each other... not turn people against one another. Remember people, opinions are like.... and every body has one. There's not only one person that makes a certain armor part. That's why we have the TDH... so that there are choices.