Boba Fett ESB Helmet Stencils

RafalFett

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Minor changes in the first post. Added two small red scratches on the top of the left mandible and the weathered Reefer Grey (same as the dome area) to the left lower cheek (thanks to Terminal Fettler and Jayvee). Also added the darker stain to the right lower cheek:
Changes.jpg

The white stain-like marks are not in the stencils on these two areas, because these are made by hand:
White Stain.jpg
 

RafalFett

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Small change in the 'Ears And Rangefinder' files:

Left Ear Correction.jpg

Altough there is an actual red spot, the area is painted over with bright silver and I did the way you see it (thanks for pointing this out Jayvee!).

All the needed files were updated.
 

Jayvee

Hunter
Perfect work my good man, that little area is spot on now :) Something I wanted to run past you, was on the mandibles.. Within the silver damage, particularly on the right hand side where the bigger silver damage appears, do you feel there are any light grey basecoat areas coming through the silver? I ask this as I know they are definatly present on the AOSW version, but looking at screenshots of the hero, its a bit inconclusive for me if they were always there, or if they were a result of extra age damage over the years. Interested to get your thoughts, as you may have found more worthy screen pics to base evidence on. All in the name of accuracy my friend, sdo interested in your thoughts :)
 

RafalFett

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Here is what I think: on the SuperTrooper costume documentation progress report at the Suit No. 6 it says 'painted grey' wich means the base color is gray, then they applied the silver coat and the rest of the colors (layered and topical). Some of the silver areas has that base gray color, and this might be because of the unmasking process, altough is hard to say if those areas were in time of filming of ESB, but some of the images incline to the presence of the base gray color.

Boba-Fett-Costume-Documentation-Progress-Report-01.jpg ESB Red Face Compare.jpg

The extra base gray scratches appeared after the filming of Empire, and these are the results of the ROTJ stunt helmet casting and/or the bad handling by the LFL staff.
 

Jayvee

Hunter
Yea, i'm real happy with your call on that Raf. The pic I added in is simply your pic, and I just highlighted in yellow the other areas I was referring to, but I imagine they are in the same boat with the other areas of grey basecoat you point out. I was interested if these areas were always present, because it would be hard to rip the paint off to that underlying layer, but it's a fantastic point you make, and to be totally honest, one that didn't actually occur to me, in the fact that it was more likely due to the casting for the ROTJ helmet - that would do that sort of damage for sure. The other thing is, I was glad in a way that conclusion seems the most likely, as i'm liking where my mandibles sit at this stage, and was hoping not to have to add too much more detail ;) Awesome work once again bud, you are the absoloute stencil and info monster! many thanks again my friend :)

base coat.jpg
 

RafalFett

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I realised from the start what areas you were talking about, this is why I added the four ESB Hero images to show that is hard to tell if the base gray color was already on the helmet or these appeared later on the helmet. Judging by the contour of the scratched area on the movie ESB Hero helmet and the later 'exibits' helmet shows that the base gray color was already on the helmet (there are no major differences on those areas between the two eras).

ESB Red Face Compare.jpg

I might need to change those areas on my stencils...
 

Jayvee

Hunter
yea, its a toughie, and obviously with less than high res pics, it is a toughie to nail down. im pretty happy either way - if i dont have to do anything great, but if we all feel they were already present, then it wont be too tough a job to add.. :)
 

RafalFett

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This will never end?!...

Thanks to the conversations between Jayvee and myself I further analised the base gray color (inside the bright silver scratches) and found hard evidences of the presence of this color in the ESB stills:

Base Gray Proof 02.jpg Base Gray Proof 01.jpg

It seems that the green mint color on the back plates is actually base gray (the same as on the red areas) and this leads to a revise of the ESB helmet stencils and color separation files.

The first post was updated with preliminary files of all the areas.
 
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Jayvee

Hunter
Perfect Raf, thats what I see too - I never saw that back colour as mint green, always the base grey. Terminal fettler did much research finding the right shade of grey, to be almost chameleon like - and it was more or less prominent depending on light and surrounding colours. I think the humbrol 147 light grey is perfect, and many thanks to TF for nailing that. Nice find on the pics too - I must say, the added inclusion of the light gry we have spoken about, really gives some great added depth to the paintjob. Once again, splendid work my friend! :)
 

RafalFett

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Thanks, Jayvee!
For those that don't know what he's talking about, here is an image to help understand how the colors change shades depending of the light:

Base Gray & Bright Silver.jpg
 

RafalFett

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This will never end?!...
It seems that the ESB Hero helmet reserved more surprises than I thought. Yesterday I was looking (again!) at the ESB stills and found some extra scratches on the left back plate:

Left Back Plate Scratches.jpg

Also did some adjustments to the dent area:

Dent Weathered Compare.jpg

Because of these (and possibly for other extra scratches) I will put the stencils on a hold, this way the update will be a final one.
 

RafalFett

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Finally! I finished the stencils (again)! The first post was updated.

Major changes in all files!!!
Added the Base Gray color to the Red Face, Cheeks, Back Plates (this color actually replaces the Mint Green color) and Dome. This Base Gray is the first coat applied on the helmet and is visible because with the unmasking process they pulled (accidentally) the Bright Silver paint on some areas. Changed the base green color of the left ear. Added more red spots on the Red Face. The Ears and Rangefinder stencil was redone, especially the left ear, the right ear and the ear decals. Added the rust-like marks around the killstripes, which I think is actually just a residue of the sprayed killstripe color along the masked area.
 

RafalFett

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Added Jayvee's awesome paint up thread to the last update in the first post. This should serve as a good example on how to use these stencils with great talent, patience and a lot of love, and of course some excellent painting tips and color lists from all the great painters from TDH.
 

RafalFett

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By request I updated the first post with all the separation files in archived JPG files for easy edit for those who want to alter the dimensions of the stencils.
 
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