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    Jul 21, 2013, 5:07 PM - Special Edition ROTJ WIP #1

    Hello all,

    I’ve been lurking the board for about 2 months and mostly asking questions to a select few members while I decide my build parts and materials. I’ve decided to post this here to help future SE fetters and get as much input as possible from TDH members so I don’t screw anything up. Below you’ll find the PARTS I’m purchasing or thinking about, then the PAINTS I’ve compiled from threads and videos, then the TOOLS a rookie should think about buying and finally the QUESTIONS I’m still trying to answer about my build. I’ve started ordering parts I’m sure about, and I’ll start posting pictures as they arrive and I paint. Any thoughts, especially on the questions at the bottom, would be greatly appreciated.
    BE CRITICAL NOW, so my Fett will be the best he can. Thanks all.

    Here is a link the very comprehensive excel file I’ve been using to keep track of everything

    --PARTS--
    FPH2 scratched Helmet with range Finder, Stalk and Visor – Fettpride
    Helmet Padding – Hard hat interior, ( I think the pro know how to do this best and keep cool )
    Helmet cooling – Evilboy
    RF lights and remote servo – Salamanderking
    Voice Amplifier – Voice Booster

    Chest and Shoulder Armor - Fettpride
    Chest LED Display - Fettronics (red lights with RafalFett's ROTJ Sequence)

    Jet Pack - Fettpride
    Jet Pack hollow aluminum Beacon and light (have not decided if these are worth it)
    Jet Pack Harness (with Buckle and hooks) – Booboofett

    Gauntlets (w/ resin keypad and darts) – Fettpride
    Gauntlet Push Buttons – Radio Shack
    Gauntlet Toggle Switches – Radio Shack
    Gauntlet LEDs – Radio Shack
    Gauntlet Hose – Home Depot

    Knee armor (w/ resin darts) – Fettpride

    Decals (Helmet, Armor, Jet Pack) – Lucksy31 (not sure which I can use for authenticity)

    ROTJ EE-3 blaster – I’m contemplating Stormrider’s with wood stock and Tasco 4x20

    Wookie Braids – Woodman
    Leather ammo Belt – BooBooFett
    Shin tools – thinking light weight is the way to go here, maybe all non-metal pieces (resin and found parts)

    Balaclava – MoW studios (is this really needed while wearing BooBoofett’s chin skirt)
    Chin Skirt – BooBooFett
    Neck seal – Arkady
    Flight suit – Arkady
    Flak jacket (vest) – Arkady
    ROTJ Cape – Woodman
    Gloves – MoW studios
    Girth Belt – Woodman
    Side/Hip Pocket – Arkady
    Ankle spats – Arkady

    Boots – MoW studios (see Spideyfett thread for painting)
    Toe spikes – waiting to see what JodoKast89 (Machinecraft) come up with for all aluminum parts

    Mannequin – either a cheapo or something a little more flexible

    I just bought a Masters $80 compressor and airbrush that I'm quite happy with so far, but I'm no pro at this so a basic setup was all I needed.


    --PAINTS--
    Humbrol enamels (Special thanks to Terminal Fettler, Jayvee, WelchWarrior123 and others make sure you look at their threads and videos for more detail)

    Here is a great video by the owner of Badger for those of us new to airbrushing or anyone looking for some basic tips about what to buy/use.

    Here is a list of the all Humbrol Paints you might possibly need:
    11, 20, 25, 27, 28, 32, 33, 34, 60, 62, 64, 72, 73, 76, 78, 79, 81, 82, 85, 93, 94, 96, 103, 104, 106, 109, 113, 117, 140, 147, 154, 159, Satin Cote (33 total different paints)
    Don’t forget you may want to get Floquil Concrete as well (34 total different paints)

    More specifically from the threads and videos:

    HELMET Painting
    Base Coat: Primer, Humbrol 147 (light grey)
    Left ear: Scarlet (60), Camouflage Grey (28)+ Light Grey (64) 1:1 ratio mix, Khaki Drab (159) + Cockpit Green(78) 1:1 ratio mix, Matt White (34) for decal
    Rangefinder ear: Silver (11), Blue Grey (79), Brown Yellow (94), Arches and 9 small stripes masked, then sprayed with Satin Black (85), white half arch white (34)
    Back panel: Silver (11), Blue Grey (79), Humbrol Beige 103 misted with Humbrol 94 or Floquil Concrete, Uniform Green (76) + RAF Blue (96) mix ratio 1:1
    Dome and lower cheeks: Silver (11), Blue Grey (79), Cockpit Green (78), Weathering on dome with sand brown (93) around visor trim, as well as various greys around dent. Lower Cheek detail in corner, has green 76+96 (1:1 ratio) with added black drops to darken until satisfied. After the main green (78) is applied, there is a light misting across bottom of cheeks with Sea Grey (27)
    Upper cheeks: Silver (11), Blue Grey (79), Matt Black (33)
    Kill stripes: Insignia Yellow (154); fade Orange Lining (82) in towards middle and last killstripes
    Mandibles and trim: Silver (11), Ocean Grey (106) or grey 79, Purple Mix –Wine (73) + Oxford Blue (104) mixed (1:1 ratio). I put just one or two extra drops of Wine 73 in to just tone back the blue value ever so slightly
    Wine (73) or red 60+ 73+ 104
    Detail : A heap of fine detail work throughout entire helmet with various colors, starting from, but not limited to : Light Grey (147), Matt White (34), Silver (11), Matt Black (33), Cockpit Green (78), Insignia Yellow (154), Wine (73), Leather (62).
    Splatters: added using main color of Leather (62). I also put in some light splatters using Rust (113), Desert Yellow (93) and light grey (147).
    Sealer: Satin Cote

    ARMOR Painting
    Chest: silver no. 11 then liquid mask silver damage, yellow no. 81 then remove silver mask. Liquid mask silver and yellow damage , green no. 78, green no. 117, black no. 33 misted and shaded as seen in reference pictures. When dry lightly buff in areas with 0000 wire wool. Repeat process also with splatters, don’t overdo! light grey highlights grey no. 140, scratches and scuffs: black and white soluble pencil and chalk pastels, scratches through to silver with tip of self-propelling pencil, final splatter of black no. 33 with old toothbrush and low pressure airbrush, center diamond green no. 117 only, weather with black splatter black no. 33, seal with Humbrol satin cote (thinned with white spirit)
    Chest Decal: chest decal dark grey no. 32, black no. 33, yellow no. 81
    Shoulders/knees: no.11 silver then liquid mask silver damage, no. 103 (lighten slightly with white?) Light yellow (around silver damage) remove silver mask. Liquid mask silver and light yellow damage, no.154 Yellow, no. 82 Orange (added in small amounts to yellow 154 and over sprayed/shaded as in reference pictures), no.79 grey (added in tiny amounts to the yellow/orange and over sprayed etc...), scratches and scuffs, same method as above, seal with satin cote as above
    Diamond Insert (according to MindMiester): 117, satin cote sealer

    JET PACK Painting
    11, 25+96 (2:1), 154, 34, 73, 33, 79, 72, 94, 62, satin cote sealer

    GAUNTLET Painting
    Black 33, White 34, Blue 10, red 73, Yellow 154, Red 20 (top of the rocket), satin cote sealer


    --Tools--
    Again thanks to WelchWarrior123 for this video

    Paint Thinner, brushes, airbrush, masking tape, detail masking tape (narrow), bondo (filler), sharp blade to carve, files, sand paper, Dremel, fixer and paints for boots from Spideyfett tutorial, wire wool 0000, nut and bolts, tape measure, masking fluid, rubber chisel/brush for masking fluid, strong glue, graphite / wax paper, pencil


    --QUESTIONS--
    -Is a balaclava needed if you use BooBooFett’s Chin Skirt or will I just cook myself?
    -What decals are authentic to use on the helmet/armor/jet pack?
    -Do many people really use a voice amplifier if so which ones? I have been looking at the Voice Booster.
    -What aluminum greeblies really make a difference compared to a painted resin part?
    -I have read aluminum shin tools weigh a fair amount and clank/bounce around so I’m leaning toward plastic and resin tool, does anyone still make a resin set? I’ve seen Bobamaker for $127 but that seems high.
    -I’d love a metal ee-3 but for now I’ve been looking at Stormrider’s blaster with wood stock, adding a Tasco scope 4x20, metal tube inside the barrel for reinforcement and possibly to add light/sound from a toy gun too, but we'll see. Looks like RS Prop Masters is coming out with a new ee-3 also with a metal bar to reinforce the weapon, does anyone know details on this?

    wow, finally done with this post... Thanks all for any help, and I hope this helps others.
    Last edited by pmalfonso; Aug 8, 2013 at 2:22 AM. Reason: Added airbrush info
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    Jul 21, 2013, 10:25 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #2

    Bobamaker weathered decals are amazing!! i have a resin beacon and so far it has worked out okay! Good luck on the build, look forward to seeing some pictures!
    I actually just got a set of the raido shack push buttons today. the Mini 4-pack push buttons end up being too tall, but with some grinding and glue I think they can work out ok.
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    Jul 21, 2013, 11:33 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #3

    You have a VERY solid list here, Paul! I look forward to seeing this suit complete!!

    I promise not to disappoint on aluminum things! I will have knee darts available for the FP knees as well
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    Jul 22, 2013, 12:57 AM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #4

    A very comprehensive list, my friend!! Always a fan of a good spreadsheet

    Something I noticed thought that you should take into account - Fettpride does not include gauntlet darts (resin or aluminum) with his kit (I too am getting the full deal from him). You should check out JodoKast89 when he gets the darts up and running as they should fit FP gear.

    As for a Voice Booster, some of the 501st from my local squad trust the Aker products, but I don't think you need the one you listed - having an FM radio coming out of your chest may not jive with the whole Fett thing... Try the 1505 or the 1506 if you wanna save $10.

    As for decals, shoulder and chest I would definitely get from Lucky31 or Bobamaker, but the jetpack, helmet ears and kill stripes you may have fun painting on your own using some stencils.

    I for one am going to forgo the balaclava - I think it would just get too hot in there. If you have long hair it may be a good idea, but anything to keep things cool and comfy is a big concern.

    It seems you and I have a similar shopping list from the same vendors! I will be watching this thread with great interest!


    Looking forward to seeing how you install your hard hat interior, and where you get your resin shin tools from. Also interested in your gauntlet LEDs

    Best of luck with the build!
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    Jul 22, 2013, 3:35 AM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #5

    Great list. Just so you know... Fettronics doesn't charge extra for you to customize your display sequence and thanks to RafalFett you can have a more accurate display than their basic ones.

    Check out the ROTJ one

    http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f25/r...ccurate-46941/
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    Jul 22, 2013, 10:09 AM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #6

    I use resin shin tools. They are light enough, and since they're down by your ankles, I never really cared I don't have original Paterson tools, etc.

    A tip on your armor painting if you want to be authentic to ROTJ: When masking off your bigger damage areas on the green torso armor as well as the shoulders and knees, Lucasfilm did not layer all three layers like you are planning to do (silver, then light yellow, then green....for example). They layered silver straight into green (or yellow if you are doing shoulders and knees), and then brush painted the light yellow around the bigger damage spots that they had masked off. They only masked one layer, not two. That's how I did my own armor, because that's how the real suits were.
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    Jul 22, 2013, 1:00 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #7

    Man, that's really one kind of a great list! Amazing you've been able to put it together in just about two months I guess you've invested quite a few hours.
    As I'm in the process of putting a ROTJ together too I'm sure this thread here is going to help me a lot!
    So "Thanks a lot for posting!"
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    Jul 22, 2013, 1:11 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #8

    Quote Mr Fett said: View Post
    I use resin shin tools. They are light enough, and since they're down by your ankles, I never really cared I don't have original Paterson tools, etc.

    A tip on your armor painting if you want to be authentic to ROTJ: When masking off your bigger damage areas on the green torso armor as well as the shoulders and knees, Lucasfilm did not layer all three layers like you are planning to do (silver, then light yellow, then green....for example). They layered silver straight into green (or yellow if you are doing shoulders and knees), and then brush painted the light yellow around the bigger damage spots that they had masked off. They only masked one layer, not two. That's how I did my own armor, because that's how the real suits were.
    Where did you get your resin shin tools from Mr. Fett?

    I too will be doing your painting method for the armor. However, for the helmet, I may just do everything topical.
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    Jul 22, 2013, 1:37 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #9

    Quote DeathProof said: View Post
    Where did you get your resin shin tools from Mr. Fett?

    I too will be doing your painting method for the armor. However, for the helmet, I may just do everything topical.
    Some cheap resin sets pop up on eBay from time to time.
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    Jul 23, 2013, 12:49 AM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #10

    Mine came with my first set of armor from Mark Bradley back in 1999. They're one the last parts of the suit I've never upgraded. Never saw a pressing need to do so, as they are fine as is. LOL
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    Aug 1, 2013, 3:59 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #11

    Quote MrDickJones said: View Post
    Bobamaker weathered decals are amazing!! i have a resin beacon and so far it has worked out okay! Good luck on the build, look forward to seeing some pictures!
    I actually just got a set of the raido shack push buttons today. the Mini 4-pack push buttons end up being too tall, but with some grinding and glue I think they can work out ok.
    Thanks for the advice those BobaMaker weathered decals are sweet. Once I get the gauntlets I'll check The Shack for buttons and switches unless someone has exact parts already.

    Quote DeathProof said: View Post
    As for a Voice Booster, some of the 501st from my local squad trust the Aker products, but I don't think you need the one you listed - having an FM radio coming out of your chest may not jive with the whole Fett thing... Try the 1505 or the 1506 if you wanna save $10.

    I for one am going to forgo the balaclava - I think it would just get too hot in there. If you have long hair it may be a good idea, but anything to keep things cool and comfy is a big concern.
    I was thinking about the 1700 for the USB/MP3 option, I figured for $6 I might find something fun to do with it (Entrance music or who knows), but you're right the 1505 would serve anyone just fine.

    Quote Wes7 said: View Post
    Fettronics doesn't charge extra for you to customize your display sequence and thanks to RafalFett you can have a more accurate display than their basic ones.
    Very cool, I added this above, thanks I've been trying to reach Fettronics with no luck lately Amazing how quick vendors come and go or just disappear for a while.

    Awesome flicker in your siggy BTW

    Quote Mr Fett said: View Post
    I use resin shin tools. They are light enough, and since they're down by your ankles, I never really cared I don't have original Paterson tools, etc. ....Some cheap resin sets pop up on eBay from time to time...

    A tip on your armor painting if you want to be authentic to ROTJ: ... They only masked one layer, not two. That's how I did my own armor, because that's how the real suits were.
    I'll probably keep poking around ebay as you suggest for some resin parts, thanks. About the paint layering: I'm guessing the paint looks more realistic if you layer from the inside up and that's why some people do it, although maybe mot really noticeable it you are better with a paint brush than me. Since I'm no artist with the (air) brush, I like the idea of using masking fluid so if I screw up it will be easier to fix than making a mistake with paint. But good advice either way.

    Quote Spaar said: View Post
    Thanks a lot for posting!
    Happy to share what others have already shared with me
    Last edited by pmalfonso; Aug 1, 2013 at 4:01 PM. Reason: spelling
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    Aug 1, 2013, 4:31 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #12

    You just might have to email him several times. He made my display just a few weeks ago!

    Thanks btw! I'm glad people dig my work
  13. Aug 1, 2013, 5:09 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #13

    Good luck to you Bro. Im Looking to start a SE ROTJ myself real soon. Following along!
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    Aug 8, 2013, 12:39 AM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #14

    I found a great video by the owner of Badger for those of us new to airbrushing or anyone looking for some basic tips about what to buy/use. I just bought a Masters $80 compressor and airbrush that I'm quite happy with so far, but I'm no pro at this so a basic setup was all I needed.

    I added this up top as well.
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    Aug 20, 2013, 4:55 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #15

    Finished making the MoW boots pretty, now I just have to make them ugly.

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    Aug 20, 2013, 5:12 PM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #16

    Awesome job man!
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    Nov 11, 2013, 4:07 AM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #17

    Quote pmalfonso said: View Post
    Thanks for the advice those BobaMaker weathered decals are sweet. Once I get the gauntlets I'll check The Shack for buttons and switches unless someone has exact parts already.



    I was thinking about the 1700 for the USB/MP3 option, I figured for $6 I might find something fun to do with it (Entrance music or who knows), but you're right the 1505 would serve anyone just fine.



    Very cool, I added this above, thanks I've been trying to reach Fettronics with no luck lately Amazing how quick vendors come and go or just disappear for a while.

    Awesome flicker in your siggy BTW



    I'll probably keep poking around ebay as you suggest for some resin parts, thanks. About the paint layering: I'm guessing the paint looks more realistic if you layer from the inside up and that's why some people do it, although maybe mot really noticeable it you are better with a paint brush than me. Since I'm no artist with the (air) brush, I like the idea of using masking fluid so if I screw up it will be easier to fix than making a mistake with paint. But good advice either way.



    Happy to share what others have already shared with me
    Tk409 makes a decent chest display or teaches you how to make one.http://tk409.com/fett.html


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    Dec 14, 2013, 1:35 AM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #18

    Been a while since I've updated, I finished the boots. Now to weather the suit.

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    Dec 14, 2013, 10:47 AM - Re: Special Edition ROTJ WIP #19

    Glad to see you're back at it man. Great job on the boots!!

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