CA BOOTS/ Weathering

This is good stuff y'all!

As usual, anything that Alex does sets a new standard. Wow!!!

I understand 'wash' on armor, how is it done with this? Is it just paint an water and dried (with the hair dryer)? What is the mix ratio? etc.. Can you explain?

Great stuff man, I have been waiting for you to do a walk through since I got a peek at your boots at our TDH pannel. This will helmp me alot!!!
Thanks so much for sharing!!!

Originally Posted by Caomhanach

I understand 'wash' on armor, how is it done with this? Is it just paint an water and dried (with the hair dryer)? What is the mix ratio? etc.. Can you explain?

There really is no right or wrong answer in terms of the exact ratio....the more water the lighter the pigment. It's that simple.

Keep in mind these boots are almost like canvas material...if you've ever painted with water and acrylics on canvas then you know that water is your friend. If it's too light make it darker...to dark, make it lighter...and add water for less pigment... works the same.

And the weathering is just that, very random, no paint by numbers here.. ..REF PICS REF PICS!!

I hope that helped???

Originally Posted by Pavespawn

As usual, anything that Alex does sets a new standard. Wow!!!

Wow..thanks Paves.:o

I also had our friendly neighborhood SpideyFett weather up my CA Boots and it's hard to believe that a pair of shoes can be a work of art in themselves, but they are!!! NICE! 8)

Originally Posted by Galactic Bounty Hunter

I also had our friendly neighborhood SpideyFett weather up my CA Boots and it's hard to believe that a pair of shoes can be a work of art in themselves, but they are!!! NICE! 8)

HAHAHA!! Hey I was just thinking about ya on this thread...

Here are some pics if GBH's CA Boots I painted on his ESB Fett.....AWESOME FETT BRO!!!:thumbup

I knew you'd come up with some Ref Pics of my boots!

THX

Originally Posted by Galactic Bounty Hunter

I knew you'd come up with some Ref Pics of my boots!

THX

...
here's one more of my favorite pic's of ya with your "SAAAWEET" CA Boots...just for reference.

Sweet pics man

Originally Posted by evan4218

Sweet pics man

Thanks Justin...look familiar??

This thread has influenced me to run down to Wal-Mart, buy paints, and paint these boots the second I got home... They look great!

great!! finally someone makes the sole yellowish aswell!!!

awesome tutorial Spidey!!

this is gonna help alot of people.

I don't agree with them being fitting for ESB if you're going for full 100% accuracy (wich is a pain in the ****** with ESB, I know)

I think ESB boots are much, much darker, with the weathering of the jumpsuit being more intense on the lower parts of the legs... so they don't make that much of a contrast with the jumpsuit and they are not as "coloured" as the MoM pics etc.

Originally Posted by RBF

great!! finally someone makes the sole yellowish aswell!!!

awesome tutorial Spidey!!

this is gonna help alot of people.

I don't agree with them being fitting for ESB if you're going for full 100% accuracy (wich is a pain in the ****** with ESB, I know)

I think ESB boots are much, much darker, with the weathering of the jumpsuit being more intense on the lower parts of the legs... so they don't make that much of a contrast with the jumpsuit and they are not as "coloured" as the MoM pics etc.

THANKS RBF

And I would have to agree with you on them being darker for ESB.
Sorry about the BAD pics but these are all I had of a full shot of the ESB Fett. You can cleary see the Boots will need to be DARKER if you are doing an ESB.....Good Call RBF!!

I think the Lighting on some of my pics is mis-leading, and changes the color in some shots.

Great tutorial Spidey !!!

They don't even resemble CA boots anymore, stunning work they look fantastic..
I was going to ask about sealing them with something for fear of getting caught out on a Troop in the rain, but I see you've covered that also.



BTW thats a great looking ESB Fett there Galactic Bounty Hunter

WOW!! thanks Spidey

hey buddy...you got one of my boots done ...does this mean I have to use your tutorial and do the other one myself??

Great thats mind blowing! I was gonna ask for pics on CA BOOTS,because I am going to invest in some. Awesome work!!

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

There really is no right or wrong answer in terms of the exact ratio....the more water the lighter the pigment. It's that simple.

Keep in mind these boots are almost like canvas material...if you've ever painted with water and acrylics on canvas then you know that water is your friend. If it's too light make it darker...to dark, make it lighter...and add water for less pigment... works the same.

And the weathering is just that, very random, no paint by numbers here.. ..REF PICS REF PICS!!

I hope that helped???

Thanks Spidey... My original idea was to work with them on in the garden (nice and dusty/dirty) but this would work better and less chance of me ruining them...

I really don't think the boots are substantially darker in ESB. In fact the weathering seems to match the ones at AOSW precisely. I think the percieved 'darkness' is from the lighting of the photos, and perhaps slight fading if they were used in the desert scenes in ROTJ like the jumpsuit and gloves...though I don't know if they actually were used in those scenes.

Great job on the boots spidey...they look 100X better!!!
D

Originally Posted by Jango's kid

Great job on the boots spidey...they look 100X better!!!
D

LOL ...thanks..

I always love your tutorials Spideyfett!

This one is awesome (as usual!)

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Ripcode

I always love your tutorials Spideyfett!

This one is awesome (as usual!)

Thanks!

Thanks Rip..
Now to add some Toe Spikes!! .....where's OmegaMan??

saturday I'm going to meet Jeremy Bulloch so I'm touching up my costume.

A new scratch build blaster is out of the question but I'm making a but plate as we speak and... yes... toe spikes...

I was thinking of drilling in holes into those boots and plunge shooting leds into them... a metal strip over them and screw that into place... voila...

think the soles would support some sort of glue or anything?

This is a bit of-topic... sorry Spidey...

just figured you disected the boot by now judging by your tutorial...

Pft, this tutorial is a waste of time if you go to high school, just wear them around campus for a few days. ;-)

Thanks for the tips Spidey!

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

Pft, this tutorial is a waste of time if you go to high school, just wear them around campus for a few days. ;-)

Thanks for the tips Spidey!

I AGREE!!! I wear mine to school almost every day, and they are being worn out physically, as well as verbally.

I wear mine to school too. I always get, "*** are those you are wearing?"

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

I wear mine to school too. I always get, "*** are those you are wearing?"

...what do you say?

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

...what do you say?

I usually say, "They are my Boba Fett boots, I'd wear the spikes but the administration would get upset."

Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

I usually say, "They are my Boba Fett boots, I'd wear the spikes but the administration would get upset."

that is your first step in ruining your social life... don't say I didn't warn ya

Originally Posted by RBF

that is your first step in ruining your social life... don't say I didn't warn ya

Pft, I take my bucket to school to show work in progress, most people think it's awesome; today I got my *** grabbed, haha.

Bucket on or bucket off, I'm still me.

Had to bump this... going to be painting mine this weekend!

Thanks for the great tips Spidey!

Originally Posted by Laan

Had to bump this... going to be painting mine this weekend!

Thanks for the great tips Spidey!

No prob todd.. glad it helps..

Here are my boots after following this tutorial:




For the spikes, I sprayed on black paint, then used a rag soaked in thinner to "wear" off the paint.

they look great

maybe a little to light still, when weathering doesn't show up in pics well, you can do tons more.

HOORAY!!!!

These look awesome

Great job Alex cant wait to get 'em

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

There really is no right or wrong answer in terms of the exact ratio....the more water the lighter the pigment. It's that simple.

Keep in mind these boots are almost like canvas material...if you've ever painted with water and acrylics on canvas then you know that water is your friend. If it's too light make it darker...to dark, make it lighter...and add water for less pigment... works the same.

And the weathering is just that, very random, no paint by numbers here.. ..REF PICS REF PICS!!

I hope that helped???

Just to make sure I understand this and sorry if I am being repetative but does "wash" mean to mix the paint with water?

Thanks,
Kata

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

For the next step you will need to enhance the Dark tones of the Boot.

KEEP in mind the use of REF Photos goes without saying. Here are the main Ref pics I'm using for this thread.

Notice how Dark the boot actually is compared to the Spat or Jumpsuit.

you know the more i look @movie stills the more i think that rotj boots started their life as a tan duck material and were weathered blue to more closely resemble ESB...particularly photo on the right.

Just to clear this up for me, my CA boots are quite a soft material, not quite the canvas I had imagined, more a polyester feel, have they changed at all recently?

Not to my knowledge Rob... same product.

I'll admit CA boots can look really nice when they are all weathered up, especially with the toe spikes BUT

i still don't understand the price tag with the inaccuracy requiring this further weathering?

why are the colors still so off?

I used to own a pair, and got them before the price went up. I ended up selling them to someone in Ireland, mostly because they fit poorly, the heel support felt like it was always caving, and the color was just not right.

I was holding out on finding a pair of used JW, but now I'm wondering


Have the CA boots gotten any better in the past 2 years?

I may order some again, I'd just like to hear someones honest feedback.

And like i said, I know that work can be done to them to make them look good, it's obvious from the pictures.

But out of box, have they improved? or are they the same out of box as they were 2 years ago?

Also, does anyone know the size offset? I wear about a 12. I think my pair was 11 at the time and it felt HUGE!!!


thanks

-CB

Yeah, I agree - don't know why they can't do these right to begin with. Unfortunately you so seldom see the other boots for sale. I recall there was a used set on eBay when I was looking once, and they went for around $250. So, the CA's are kind of the only option out there if you want to be sure to get a pair.

Lol - same deal as two years ago on size. I bought mine almost a year ago (I know I am slow) and they are oversized too.

Here's a link for the sealer I use. http://www.krylon.com/products/workable_fixatif

Thx Spidey!

excellent tutorial i'm going to put my progress here in the week!!!

thank you

Should you use a cheese cloth to soak up paint? In other words, after you brush it on, should you rub it in with a cheese cloth to soak up excess paint and to make sure it penetrates the material?

I didn't. Not sure why you would need to. It's not that wet...

I am still wondering why this has not gotten a stickey? Just curious....

Originally Posted by Blade76

Should you use a cheese cloth to soak up paint? In other words, after you brush it on, should you rub it in with a cheese cloth to soak up excess paint and to make sure it penetrates the material?

Yeah, not really needed like Bubba Fett said...

**And here lately I've been applying all coats with an Airbrush...seems to go faster and no "Brush Strokes" ... however you have to mask/or tape down the spikes, sole, and black ribs of the shoe so no paint gets on those areas before weathering later.

once again Alex... amazing paint... truly what one should aspire to do.

The shading is amazing and very subtle changes as it moves around. Very realistic and natural. I've seen it on other pieces you have painted and posted and it's really a talent. You make something very difficult look very easy...

i saw a pair on ebay was thinking about getting but im going have to wait till i get the armor done first heh but i mite just go with jango's boots instead

Those look great!

I'll look to this tutorial when I get my boots.

BTW, does anyone know if CAboots still stock these? They don't show up on the website anymore. I e-mailed Joey, but getting an answer usually takes som time :-)

Call them...

They also have a few pair left on ebay.

Yeah, saw the two pairs on the bay, a little too small I'm afraid.

I'll give them a call if my mail isn't answered this week. I've got more than enough time before I'll need them.

Thanks

Originally Posted by CombatBaby

why are the colors still so off?


-CB

I don't wanna hold up the thread, since this post was made a few months ago. it's just that I thought it might help on people who have the same doubt about the CA boots.

I don't really think the colors of the CA boot are off... I think you should regard them as what the colors were when Boba bought them...

Basically... regard them as an empty canvas, all you need to do is either wear them for years... hunt some scumbags... freeze some punks in carbonite... or simply paint them up a little.

And I wouldn't even call it painting up, because it's merely rubbing on some accents and dirt colors.

I just love the way myn came out and I found them very comfortable while trooping... Ow... I still haven't got too spikes!!! shame on me...

Originally Posted by cr4nky

Yeah, saw the two pairs on the bay, a little too small I'm afraid.

I'll give them a call if my mail isn't answered this week. I've got more than enough time before I'll need them.
Thanks

took the liberty of emailing them directly...

CA BOOTS RESPONSE:

"From: Receptionist Desk [mailto:attitudeboots@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:37 PM
To: Alex
Subject: Re: Boba Fett boots

Hello,

We only have sizes 7 and 7 1/2 in stock.
We probably will not be getting any more in stock until the beginning of next year, but if we do we will be selling on line.

Please include all previous emails with your response.

Thank you,
Anthony
www.caboots.com"

So untill next year they're out

Great! Thanks for the info.

I can wait 'til next year, so that's fine.

Hey all, I combined Spidey's tutorial w/pics into a word document if anyone wants it, PM me with your email address.

I just did it so I could print it out and have it to reference when I work on my boots so I don't have to keep running into my office to check on my computer

Look better in person. Awesome work!!

What's the main diffrens on the ESB boots and ROTJ boots ???

I did a modified version of this tutorial on my old pair of Mark Cheng Boba boots tonight. I actually changed the entire colors of the Cheng's darker so they're more accurately colored now. I used the charcoal/white mix on the main body of the boots, then on the center stripe used a mix of charcoal/black but then went back over the stripe again with the rag I used to wipe on the charcoal/white to tone it down some.

I colored the side elastic panels first with straight charcoal color, but then went over it again with the charcoal/black mixture I used on the center stripe.

I couldn't get my purple/black areas as perfect as the museum suits, but there's a little in the front sections where it's supposed to be.

I'm planning on drybrushing the little detail lines on top of the black piping of the boots as seen in the museum exhibits. What color should I use, silver?

Before weathering, here's the color difference. Top boot is the original lighter Cheng boot color, bottom boot was with the mixture of Charcoal and White as in the tutorial. I made that color mix and added water and then dipped an old rag into it and rubbed along each section of boot a few times until the whole surface darkened.

And the dead rise mwhahaha
Sorry for necro posting guys, but this thread is so helpful for any noobs that are starting the weathering process. And im my opinion weathering on fabric is alot harder than on armour, So thank you for this spideyfett. And I know I havant been here long but I seriously think that this should be stickied as i know its goin to help me out aswell as others too, and shouldnt get lost with the old threads.
Lewis

Great tutorial. =)

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Forgot to post these..

ROTJ version, Ivansith's.

Are those CA Boots that have been weathered? It looks like there isn't a "Hump" in the middle. Did you fix that and if so, how?

Originally Posted by Little TK Boy

What's the main diffrens on the ESB boots and ROTJ boots ???

I'd like to know that too.

Originally Posted by Nihkoute

I'd like to know that too.

anyone?

Great tutorial. I have my new boots from Wes. Now to get them dirty.

Just got my new boots, time to try this!

Thread stickied.

Nice one Webchief, this is an excellent tutorial that worked wonders on my boots. Should help loads of people, Cheers Alex
Welsh

I would love to start my weathering on my boots... but I still don't know the diffrens btwen ROTJ and ESB...

thanks for the info....

Thanks for the info! This is possibly the best tutorial on this that I have found! Now if CABoots would just get done making mine and send them.......

OK so I just got my CABoots in the mail on Saturday, and imagine my surprise when I open the box and they are suede!!!!!! Not happy!!!!! I will be calling them tomorrow (had too much work today to fit it in) and complaining....they are supposed to be the best reproduction ever????????

This is a great tutorial, very cool! Thanks for this!

I wanted to show what this tutorial could do on a pair of the new styled, JangoWes boots.

First here's how they come. Nice and shiny new....and WAY too light and clean.



And remembering that this is what you're trying to emulate:



I followed Alex's boot weathering tutorial and found it to be a great resource.

First up was the wash of Charcoal and White



Then I needed to darken the dark areas with straight charcoal.



The next step was to wet brush charcoal into the recessed areas around the stiching and blend it in using a paper towel.



Then came some of the weathering using a mixture of Straw and Burnt Umber. You paint in the lines in the soles of the boots as well as give the entire white area a wash with the color. You can wipe away the paint if it goes on too thick. Also, you want to get some of the straw/umber mix up in the bottoms of the boot so it looks dirty.



The next step is to take the Purple and mix it with white and dry brush it onto the creases in the dark areas and mix it with black and dry brush it into the creases on the lighter areas.



Next, I took 220 grit sandpaper and scuffed up some of the areas around the elastic, the toe and the arches to highlight it. I also then took and stippled, wet brushed, dry brushed and flicked paint onto the soles to dirty them up more.



The final step was to install the toe spikes I got from Mojo Fett.







In the end, it was a lot of fun dirtying them up and they look a million times better!

so from reading the replies on here, i see a bunch of unanswered questions about the difference between ESB and RotJ weathering.

the simplest way to tell is to just look at them both and see how they are different. if you are going to be painting this stuff, you need to stare at it until you can see what you are painting. otherwise all the tutorials in the world aren't going to help. look in the gallery, watch the dvds, etc...

i've been saying this a lot on a lot of different forums lately, but the single greatest tutorial you can ever read is this: "Make it look like the picture". that's it

Going to try this great thread !! Thanks !

Originally Posted by stormtrooperguy

i've been saying this a lot on a lot of different forums lately, but the single greatest tutorial you can ever read is this: "Make it look like the picture". that's it

Ha ha ha, this is classic, i never thought of it that way, of course! *slaps head*

has anybody done this exact tutorial on a pair of MOW's? His are more whiter/cream colored so I was wondering if using the paints would get the same results?

you'll need to make them gray and black first, then begin the weathering process.

Yep, just keep doing the gray/charcoal wash until they darken.

Niice Weathering!!!