Everything you wanted to know about Visors...

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Jangos kid

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I would think just about any major automotive chain would carry the stuff. We, (My father runs a mechanic shop,) get all our supplies from Napa and Arnold motor supply(upper midwest chain)I'm on vacation right now, but after the holidays are over I'll do some checking & see where the best place to get it is. If I'm not mistaken, that stuff may be a bit spendy, so I'll do some shoppin around. I'll post my findings when I know something.
 
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Pantera

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One thing to think about.The added support of bonding the visor into the helmet adds a huge amount of stiffness to the helmet.You'll see what I mean once you cut the visor area out.It is pretty flimsy .Even a Fiberglass helmet.Just something to think about.
Later,
Ron
 
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DL44 Blaster

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Very good point Pantara.It was one of the reasons I had suggested then "re-enforcing" it with an epoxy,JB Weld,or hot glue.It definitely solidifies a helmet back up again. ;)

Steve
 
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Jangos kid

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If using that 3 tape or something similar does actually work,which it may not considering Panteras advice,(You're absolutely right P)I doubt that breath vapor would affect it very much. If the stuff can hold a piece of trim to a car even after it goes through a car-wash or a harsh winter w/ salt covered roads (I'm from Minnesota), then it should be able to withstand breath vapor. I'm not completely shure though. I guess we'll just have to try it & see if it works.
Damian
 
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malcfett

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Just curious, but is it common practice among
most of you to completely seal of the seam between
the visor & helmet? I only glued mine in at the
bottom to allow some minimal breathing room for
breath vapor to escape & air to come thru the upper
seams of the visor. I would guess, unless you have
a helmet fan, that sealing it off completely would
greatly increase fogging & stale air...or am I just
doing it all wrong? :lol:
 
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Jangos kid

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Sounds like a pretty good idea Malcfett. Doeas that seem to help quite a bit? The visor on my previous helmet was epoxied all the way around & yeah, it fogged up so bad I almost needed an inside wiperblade. I even had a fan in mine & it only helped a little. If I put 2 fans in I think it would be ok. Seems to me I've heard of others that leave the top portion of the visor unglued as well, & maybe the original was even like that. Is the gap very noticable if you leave that top portion unglued?
 
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LisaFett

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Whatever you do, just remember that visors can be cracked. And the it'd be a really bad day if you couldn't remove it.
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malcfett

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Jango's Kid - There is a slight gap, but not really noticeable unless you look
really close up. I don't have any fans in my helmet, but so far it barely fogs
at all. I think leaving a seam helps a lot.

As far as the tape, you could space sections of tape along the top to help
get that seamless look but still have a few spots to let air escape. Just my
two cents.
 
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bigkidbiggertoys

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I cheated when I made my wife's costume. I left the helmet fully intact, removed the old visor & used clear carpet tape to mount the new visor onto the helmet. I did not trim the opening & the material I used for the visor is a dark vinyl about the thickness of a dime. This is the same stuff that is used in soft convertible tops for windows. I still have lots left if anyone is interested in it. It can be cut with scissors & you don't need to bother with thermoforming. I'll get a better pic up of just the helmet later.
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Jangos kid

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Malcfett-I think I'm gonna try that spacing method on the top of the visor & see if that helps. Or I could just quit breathing so hard when I have my helmet on (I can't help but get excited when I'm boba fett!! ha ha!!) Anyway, thanx alot for your "2 cents."
Damian
 
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batninja

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My helmet appears to be cast from a DP Deluxe, and I'm planning to front-mount the visor onto the existing lip, using the welder's face shield method. (The fiberglass thickness is too uneven to rear-mount.)

I was wondering...has anyone tried cutting indentations arounf the visor edge, so that it's possible to snap the visor in place, rather than using messy glues? Was it successful? This method also works for visor that aren't shaped EXACTLY to the opening, i.e., they may have incorrect curvature or nicks in the plastic.

The indentations would be very small, maybe 1/16" to 1/8". Here's a diagram of what I'm looking for...

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Any comments or ideas? I'm thinking of sacrificing an older DP 97 to see if this works...I need to find the perfect Dremel bit.
 
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jrnymanprotector

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I think it's worth a shot, especially if you've a 97 lying around.

I think it could be done. I think you'll want a flimsier visor so that once one side is slid into position you can bend the other half enough to slide it into place as well. (I'm assuming you'll slip it in from the center and bend the other half to insert it also from the center). Since you have a lip holding it in from the front I think that's the only way to install it then, right?

So with a less rigid visor, a dremel, and some patience I think it could be done. I'd be anxious to see it :)

Best luck,
Phil
 
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batninja

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Yeah, the welder's face shield is pretty pliable; that's what gave me the idea in the first place. It's real thin plastic, but sturdy enough to use for visor material.

Here's an updated diagram:

visor2.jpg



Can you tell I have nothing better to do at work? :)
 
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Megalomaniac Mando

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The concept is sound, and I don't think it will need a very deep notch. Perhaps, if it proves to difficult to snap into place, you could cut the top notch twice as deep as the bottom. Upon inserting, you could slide the shield into the top notch fully(which, in actuality, would be too far), adjust the shield in the squint, then slide it down into the bottom notch.
 
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batninja

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Bad news, sports fans...

This project is a bust. The lip around the squint is too narrow to cut into, leaving a VERY weak edge. So, guess I'll be glueing like all the others...

Speaking of 'bust', I scored one of the Legends BF busts from E-bay today. Woohoo for me!

Looking back at that sentence, I never thought I could put 'bust' and 'scored' in the same sentence without discussing weemen-folk. Hmm...only on TDH.
 
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dubbin

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I was rear-mounting my T-Visor on a 95 DP last night when I realized the epoxy was seeping thru to the visible side on the front of helmet on visor. Now there is epoxy smeared on little sections of the visor on the front of the helmet.

What can I use to take epoxy off of it??

Also, if anyone has used epoxy, could you please give me some words of advice on how to hold this thing in place while it sets, because I seem to be all thumbs at this.

Thanks
 
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DL44 Blaster

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Nothing will take off epoxy once it has dried without damaging the surface of the visor.....at least to the best of my knowledge.It seems that alot of folks use hot glue for how fast it sets up,and then an epoxy for reinforcing.When the time comes I'm going to try using 3M automotive double side tape as an alternative.The mechanical fastening system used on the original is fantastic,and has also been done here I think.

Steve
 
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