ESB vs ROTJ question
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clmayfield
Active Hunter
In terms of difficulty level, the primary difference I see is that the paint job on the ROTJ jet pack is much harder than the ESB, while the ESB has a Pulce 40 and Nemrod holster. From a cost perspective, this makes ESB more expensive if you add a sidearm. I didn't think that painting the Pulce was that difficult. The amount of effort is very similar. I would make your decision about which costume you prefer.
intwenothor
Well-Known Hunter
Whilst I agree the ROTJ pack is more complicated it looks to me like an issue of more time needed rather than actually being more difficult. To me the helmet is the single biggest obstacle to the ROTJ appears far harder in terms of technique. The Sandy helmets have a kind of controlled randomness that seems very tough to replicate. Despite looking more complicated at first glance I think the ESB has a tightness to it that is easier to copy. I've only seen two truly brilliant attempts at the ROTJ helmet. It's a beast.
clmayfield
Active Hunter
Good point on difficulty. I always think about thinks in terms of time and expense.
Fett 4 Real
Sr Hunter
Agreed with intwenothor....The ROTJ is not the easiest helmet to paint. If done right it looks pretty good.
BUT I wouldn't base what suit you do based on cost or difficulty, do it on personal preference. That way you have what you want....
BUT I wouldn't base what suit you do based on cost or difficulty, do it on personal preference. That way you have what you want....
intwenothor
Well-Known Hunter
I just think that in terms of paint schemes the ESB helmet is more forgiving both for technique and overall appearance; a fairly good attempt at an ESB will probably turn out looking better than a fairly good attempt of ROTJ. It's like there are more places to hide any inadequacies on the ESB. With the helmets the harder thing with the ESB will be to lock down those nuanced physical attributes like flare and wavy brow.
With the jetpacks it may be the other way around; a fair attempt at the striking ROTJ will likely look more impressive than a fair attempt at the pretty dull ESB pack which is basically just green. With the latter you'll need to create that illusion of texture with technique and misting where the Jedi pack will impress with its complicated colour scheme and number of layers. Otherwise the basic number of items in each costume is pretty much the same. The esb blaster seems a bit more complex to me in terms of numbers of parts.
With the jetpacks it may be the other way around; a fair attempt at the striking ROTJ will likely look more impressive than a fair attempt at the pretty dull ESB pack which is basically just green. With the latter you'll need to create that illusion of texture with technique and misting where the Jedi pack will impress with its complicated colour scheme and number of layers. Otherwise the basic number of items in each costume is pretty much the same. The esb blaster seems a bit more complex to me in terms of numbers of parts.
Fett 4 Real
Sr Hunter
all correct except the flare stuff....theres no flare bro...
intwenothor
Well-Known Hunter
I've been peddling that line for years and that the flare argument is overcooked. No one believes me!
Fett 4 Real
Sr Hunter
People see the helmet looking wider in ESB and I really think its attributed to angles and focal length of the camera. As you know very well if you photo the helmet up close it loses the flared look....but if you take a pic farther away without zoom it gets it back....
intwenothor
Well-Known Hunter
Yes. This.
I made a lengthy comment, as often is the case, in post 11 of a thread called 'let's talk about flare; this is it' about this. I don't think the sides are perfectly parallel in any of the helmets so there's always a degree of flare but I'm just not seeing the position of wild ESB flare that some prefer.
That wavy brow though... urgh. I'm trying to work on it right now and must be on my tenth, eleventh, whatever number revision to try to get that down. I don't think I've seen anyone get that right yet. Obviously that includes me otherwise I wouldnt still be working on it. Bah.
Sorry Viewoptic. I know this wasn't your question.
redkraytdragon
Active Hunter
One of the other large differences in cost between the two is the much higher cost of the machined aluminum/resin ESB flamethrower. So please keep that in mind as well.
clmayfield
Active Hunter
Nice choice!
smuggler_fett
Jr Hunter
Honestly when I first looked at the two the Rotj pack turned me off it looked hard to replicate which helped me to go esb as I love the esb flame thrower it sells the suit to me
