ESB Gloves on, and...

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**I received a reply from the makers, Sent them several pics, mentioned some of the details mentioned in our conversations, and I'm sending them back. they're the biggest size they make and my hand is 10" measured. So I'm sending them back hoping to get a refund, and then looking for a pair that will fit. I can sew but not to this caliber so i may keep looking. Thanks to everyone that's commented and offered up suggestions and advice!**

Not impressed. I paid $85 and they're way too small, and the quilting on the thumb is crooked and pulls the entire glove when I bend my thumb. I reached out to the vendor, but this is not cool. Any ideas?

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If no to either you can unstitch thumb and take to Taylor/ dry cleaner to re stitch if not handy with sewing machine


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The stitch job actually looks pretty good, but isn't the thread grey? Looks like the size might be wrong. I am screwed on my gloves. I have wide hands but short sausage fingers.
 
my thumb is off to the side, and i drew the lines where my knuckles are. I don't know if the stitching is supposed to be gray? I've only seen the white. The vendor i purchased these from have their own website, and they sell this on the regular. I would've been better off getting $4 gloves and making my own.

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Not sure what you mean by crooked....the thumb pad is on the actual screen used glove kinda weird....the large pad though....on the left glove should be relatively small....like 2/3 the size of the right. Now as far as TK409...Chris may not email you back like the very instant you email about a complaint, but come on hes not walmart and doesn't have a customer service section. Allow him time to get back to you.
 
Not sure what you mean by crooked....the thumb pad is on the actual screen used glove kinda weird....the large pad though....on the left glove should be relatively small....like 2/3 the size of the right. Now as far as TK409...Chris may not email you back like the very instant you email about a complaint, but come on hes not walmart and doesn't have a customer service section. Allow him time to get back to you.
I get that everyone here isn't Walmart. but for $85?? for this? gimme a break. Had I known the quality was gonna be this shoddy, I would've bought the supplies FROM Walmart. Ordered my cape from them too. can't wait to see what that looks like...

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It would take you a few hours to figure out the patterns and a few more to sew up some gloves and dye them. Im not saying anything about the product or price, but I do urge you to research items before buying them, And if you can sew and have the free time and think you can save on an item by making it by yourself do it....but it may end up biting you in the butt....as in you spend the time and money and it turns out like junk, or mediocre....and if youre anything like a lot of people here who strive for perfection its just not worth the hassle. Spend a little time figuring out what to buy and get it right the first time. Wish you the best of luck with the situation man...really sucks to get a bad product.
 
It would take you a few hours to figure out the patterns and a few more to sew up some gloves and dye them. Im not saying anything about the product or price, but I do urge you to research items before buying them, And if you can sew and have the free time and think you can save on an item by making it by yourself do it....but it may end up biting you in the butt....as in you spend the time and money and it turns out like junk, or mediocre....and if youre anything like a lot of people here who strive for perfection its just not worth the hassle. Spend a little time figuring out what to buy and get it right the first time. Wish you the best of luck with the situation man...really sucks to get a bad product.
I thought I did the research, but I'm more of an artist/crafter. Not really good at sewing. And I don't mind spending the money at all, but I agree, I should get what I paid for.

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I'm gonna have to side with interceptor on this one. First off, those gloves look awful. It looks like there's no batting at all inside the white pads. The stitching looks to be the wrong color, you should be able to see the vertical lines going through the pads on the top of the hands. Even from the picture I can tell that thumb pad is incorrectly stitched on. The gray looks off to me somehow, too. For that kind of money, I'd be pretty ....irritated, as well.
Good luck man, I hope you get this sorted out.
 
I'm gonna have to side with interceptor on this one. First off, those gloves look awful. It looks like there's no batting at all inside the white pads. The stitching looks to be the wrong color, you should be able to see the vertical lines going through the pads on the top of the hands. Even from the picture I can tell that thumb pad is incorrectly stitched on. The gray looks off to me somehow, too. For that kind of money, I'd be pretty ....irritated, as well.
Good luck man, I hope you get this sorted out.
what color should the stitching be? for the glove itself or for the padding?

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I am by no means an expert, but I just spent some time looking at the reference pics, and the thumb pad is in an awkward place in the originals. On the fingers, the pad runs across the back of the fingers, but on the thumb, it is half way on the back of the thumb and half way on the inside of the thumb. Another thing to bear in mind is that because the gloves are a very flexible cotton and the pads are a less flexible fabric (tackle twill or whatever), it will cause some awkward pulling in the glove, especially if the glove is too small.

What I like about them is that they use a ladder stitch, which is a hand stitch. That is correct and the hardest part. MOW uses a machine stitch that looks like an oven mitt. I don't mean to diss MOW. I have a JP and boots from him and they are awesome, and he is perfectly upfront about the manufacture of the gloves. What you have is more correct. EXCEPT for two things: 1) the color of the stitching, as RKD pointed out should be visible on the knuckles and 2) the gloves are supposed to have a white sleeve sewed on, which it appears to be missing.

I think the weirdness you feel in the glove is the fact that the gloves are too small for your hand and the padding is not stretching, which is causing them to feel awkward. The padding is probably stretching the gloves at the stitches as you flex your hand, which is causing the thumb pad to turn around on your thumb.

I think the reason that the grey looks weird is not because it is the wrong shade. The color looks right, but it looks like the fabric began as a factory grey. The real deal was dyed. You can tell because the thumb stitches are white and the texture is not a very homogeneous color. If the gloves were dyed as a whole like with the originals, the stitches would be dyed grey as well and the fibers would be relatively homogeneous.

I think overall, the gloves look pretty good, but you are the customer. I am sure they have other customers who would be willing to buy those and they should take them back.

I plan on making my own and have all of the raw materials, I just haven't gotten around to doing it. This thread has been really helpful. Thanks!

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Those four stitches that run up and down should be visible. I have a hard time seeing the stitches on your glove because they are white. I can't tell the actual color on the real deal, but I think it is grey. My understanding is that the entire glove with padding was dyed after the glove was put together, so even if those stitches started out white, they would have turned grey in the dye.
 
I'm gonna have to side with interceptor on this one. First off, those gloves look awful. It looks like there's no batting at all inside the white pads. The stitching looks to be the wrong color, you should be able to see the vertical lines going through the pads on the top of the hands. Even from the picture I can tell that thumb pad is incorrectly stitched on. The gray looks off to me somehow, too. For that kind of money, I'd be pretty ....irritated, as well.
Good luck man, I hope you get this sorted out.

I wasnt not on his side....I was asking him to relax and wait for TK409 to get back to him. He didnt give any timeline, so I assumed he got the gloves yesterday and emailed Chris yesterday....which is OFTEN the case with things like this. Which is sad! If you have an issue with someone via the internet why put them on blast without giving them a chance to make it right? You obviously dont need them this weekend for an event so its not like theres some sort of issue with that. So give the other guy a chance to make it right, or if you did and its been weeks or whatever say so....but just being vague and saying this TK409 stuff is "not cool" come on. I didnt even know Chris still sold stuff.... so not sure where you got them or the specifics but Major and MikeM both sell pretty legit gloves that are also not cheap....but hand sewing takes time and time is valuable. Hope it works out for you in the end. More details about this would be helpful to others also.
 
I wasnt not on his side....I was asking him to relax and wait for TK409 to get back to him. He didnt give any timeline, so I assumed he got the gloves yesterday and emailed Chris yesterday....which is OFTEN the case with things like this. Which is sad! If you have an issue with someone via the internet why put them on blast without giving them a chance to make it right? You obviously dont need them this weekend for an event so its not like theres some sort of issue with that. So give the other guy a chance to make it right, or if you did and its been weeks or whatever say so....but just being vague and saying this TK409 stuff is "not cool" come on. I didnt even know Chris still sold stuff.... so not sure where you got them or the specifics but Major and MikeM both sell pretty legit gloves that are also not cheap....but hand sewing takes time and time is valuable. Hope it works out for you in the end. More details about this would be helpful to others also.
right. pretty legit gloves. do mine look legit? would you have paid $85 for them? I'm no expert but I knew they were wrong as soon as I opened the box. I posted these on here to see if maybe I'm wrong and should just accept it. But no one has said "yes those are accurate quality gloves."

as far as making it right by him via email...you said Chris wasn't making them anymore, which means he's probably made them for a while. So i can't imagine him looking at these gloves and shipping them anyway knowing they weren't right in the first place.

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If I saw pics of them prior to buying no. I said stuff in general. I don't know how you got these as he doesn't advertise here... and others do. Again not saying you're wrong man. Just that you're not going about it in a professional way.


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If I saw pics of them prior to buying no. I said stuff in general. I don't know how you got these as he doesn't advertise here... and others do. Again not saying you're wrong man. Just that you're not going about it in a professional way.


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this is my first Boba Fett build, so my apologies in advance to those at expert level. I'm not happy with what I received, which is why I posted to this place to get some feedback. there's no guide book to this, so if I'm doing something wrong, I'm not aware. As for the vendor, I'll deal with that separately. My intention wasn't to blast anyone, I'm just not happy with the product I received. If there's someone new like me and reads this, maybe they'll learn something from my mistake.

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