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Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

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    Restoring a screen cast Jango helmet

    Over a year and half ago I was able buy a mold that was made from the real Jango helmet. My goal was to make a nice helmet for myself. I know that it is not going to be a BMW of a helmet. To me, that is fine. I am not a professional prop maker or photographer.

    I did read that the resin that I found for the helmet will yellow if left out in the sun for a long time. But, seeing I leave mine my case, this should not be a problem. That and the resin that will not yellow, is 3 times the price!


    I though that would be great. Then I got the molds. They where bad, very bad. I tried to pull a helmet and I could not. So, I asked a real prop maker to see what he could do. He pulled a helmet and started to clean it up.





    You can see the pull was good but, what came out, it was bad. What you can't see if the keyslots. It looks like they molded it so quickly that they are off by almost 1 full inch.




    And now the clean up.




    Here is what the helmet looks like out of the new mold. The are some bumps in the mold the just leaves extra stuff to clean and sand off. To me, no big deal.


    See the nice shinny spot? It took about 2 minutes and some #0000 steel wool. This helmet was cast in a method called cold casting. Where you mix a metal and resin. Then it shines just like metal. There is some pitting on the helmet. To me that is fine. It give it more of a weathered look and I did not want to sand pas the cold cast.



    Well, I started to cut out my helmet.



    Still has some little pits in the top. I would keep sanding but, I do not want to sand past the cold cast layer. And I also broke it. I tried not to cast the section with the keyslots would go to thick. Well in doing that you need to be carefully not to break the bottom like I did. See the very small black line?



    After doing the first layer of cold cast, I used 3 layer of a roto cast. This way the inside comes out without air bubbles and smooth. I added some black tint to tint it black.



    Now with the ear finished and taped in place.





    When I got my visor, I figured I would just use the holes that came with it. They where already there. Why not use them?



    The ears. Well, the molds that came with the helmet where bad as well. So, I had to rebuild the ear. The person who cleaned up the helmet and made the mold started the ear for me. The with the help of a finish carpenter, we finished it.

    In my research I found 2 copies of the ears from 2 different people. On the far left is a copy with the range finder molded it. I then laser scanned that in to make a nice CNC laser cut aluminum stalk. The 2 ears on the right is what I got with the helmet. They are bad. Again you can tell it was molded very quickly.






    Rebuilding the ear.





    Mine is the one on the left and the real thing on the right. The one I made is about 2 mm to tall.






    And the first casts!! There is one air bubble and that is it. The next cast should not have it. It is all in how I pour the resin in. I tinted the resin with the aluminum power. The reason is that if was a real helmet, these parts would be metal like the rest of the helmet.



    Last the range finder and keyslots. Again, I tinted the resin with the aluminum power to give it a more finished and real look.





    I did not need to do anything with the keyslots. They will just need clean up. The keyslots are cast in the same resin as the rest of the helmet. That way they will shine with the rest of the helmet.


    This is the RF that I am going to use. I know that it is not correct but, I am going for what I like. This RF is the one that I made for my Boba helmet and I am going to use a real SX-70 lens.



    Now it is just ready for paint. Seeing that it at 25 F or -4 C outside, I do not see this happening anytime soon.





    Just need to put the pinstripes on and glue in the mesh.



    Left Side: my Boba RF with a real SX-70 lens
    Right Side: the screen cast Jango RF.


    And I am now going to call it finished with pinstripe on and weathered! Took me long enough!



    Thank you all for going on this long ride with me!
    Last edited by asok; Aug 15, 2009 at 9:26 AM.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Wow that is awesome that you own these molds. Are you going to mold the finished helmet again? or just use this same mold?

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Yes. Guess I should have stated that the helmet seen here

    is from the new mold. After the helmet was cleaned up, it was remolded.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Cool. However, I don't understand the point of casting the RF and ear in CC, when they get painted blue anyways. It seems like its a waste of expensive materials.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    From what I understand, Since he doesnt want to waste material I guess he just cast these up with the remaining resin.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Very cool, Asok!
    The original mold is very interesting.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Foxbatkllr said: View Post
    Cool. However, I don't understand the point of casting the RF and ear in CC, when they get painted blue anyways. It seems like its a waste of expensive materials.
    The ear and RF are not CC. They are just normal resin that I use for almost everything that I added the power to give them color, they will not shine. Why did I do that? I hate getting a kit with all white or clear parts.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    I think white resin was used for casting the ear pieces of the original helmet because the color white shows through on the original helmet in the scratches & nicks on those pieces. I dislike white as well and prefer grey over anything else.

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    Wow, very cool project. I will enjoy watching this progress

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Ah, okay, that makes more sense.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    I just ordered my visor from
    http://www.mfasco.com/product_info.php/products_id/8566
    I like these because they thick and I have yet to break one.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Yeah that's what I use as well, except I pick them up locally. They are nice and dark and you can't tell they are tinted green from the outside.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Congrats Bill and nice job!

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Updated first post.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Now, it just needs painting. The first post was updated.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    looks nice

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Just out of curiosity (and i know I'm reviving a dead thread) did you, or anyone else, ever try to correct the curve on the left ear?

    It curves inward a bit toward the base on mine and I keep looking at it wondering how to correct it or if I should just leave it alone and live with it...

    It's hard to see in the shots above but it looks like yours has the same feature.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Actually, a thought for my own question.

    Does anyone have any idea if this is something that could be corrected with Bondo? Build up the sunken edge and sand it smooth rather than trying to bring the raised part down to the inward curve? I'm not very experienced with bondo yet and am not sure if it could be used for this kind of "construction".

    Thanks!

    -Nyx

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Great Job asok,
    I dont want to judge your work and I find it awesome *probably would'nt do better myself* but while I was looking at your bucket in your first post and looked at the picture you took of it from under it and you see the keyslots hole, it does not look centered with the front visor?
    Is that normal on a fett helmet?

    Just a little pointer since you are perfecting it !

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    In the start they where not. But, the person who worked on the helmet tried to get them as centered as he could.

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    tahk yuo!!! I just needed something like this!!!!

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    nice work asok ,as an ex fabricator myself ,we used to use the main primary colour resins for the mold ,then later fiberglass afterwards as this saves time and money in the long haul ..just a though ,anyways great job my friend keep it up .

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    Thanks guys for the kind words. I was thinking about doing a run. If you would like one, please let me know.

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    if you do decide to do a run, what is the price range going to look like?

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    Re: Restoring the ILM Jango helmet

    The cast turned out real sweet. what is the weight like?

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