Discussion on JB project / FP V3 armor within the Boba Fett Armor forum, part of the Star Wars Original Trilogy Bounty Hunters category; As most of you know TDH will be presenting Jeremy
As most of you know TDH will be presenting Jeremy Bulloch with his very own ESB Fett Costume. I am very excited to have the opportunity to paint Mr. Bulloch's armor.
I want to thank BATNINJA for doing all the trim work on this armor. He did a excellent job!!:thumbup:thumbup
So far I have done the primer and the silver
This will be a little slower than normal due to the fact I am painting 3 sets of armor at the same time...JB's, mine and Philip Wise.
Let the games begin!!
Awesome!!
what silver are you using? Also, are you sanding down the plastic first?
Batninja sanded the plastic after he trimmed the armor
The silver I am using is Krylon Metallic from Hobby Lobby....Spideyfett suggested this for me.
Originally Posted by SEEKER
Thank you.
Yep - that's what I use. Just wanted to make sure I'm using the same thing the masters are using.
here here!!!
Awesome!!...looks great bro......
now get some green on that thing..
I hear the drum roll ...
Can't wait to see this Jason! So, being that you put down a silver layer, are you going full layered with this? Or topical after this step? Just curious.
The trim-up looks fabulous Eric !
FP
Layered for the silver only...yellow will be topical
by the way...the V3 armor is incredible!!!
I hear the drum roll ...
Can't wait to see this Jason! So, being that you put down a silver layer, are you going full layered with this? Or topical after this step? Just curious.
The trim-up looks fabulous Eric !
FP
Dang ... that a lot of work! The progress in the pictures looks pretty good so far. Keep posting them ... I'd definitely like to see how this turns out.
Wow! great start DM...
I'm gonna do the same method 'layered Silver only' then the remainder topical... keep up the good work bud!
That looks really great so far.
Keep up the great work!
Ditto...Awesome!!...looks great bro..
now get some green on that thing..
Looks awesome! Can't wait 'til you add some color to it.
Any updates? The armor is looking good so far.
update....
I have been working on masking off the silver and this part is a slow process
I have outlined the silver with a light pencil and then applied masking fluid
Hopefully I will be able to get the GREEN on this weekend....
what will you be using for the yellow?
yellow zinc chromate
is that a testors color? i found one that says chromate on it, and is yellow, but the zinc is missing in the name. ???
http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/tes/tes4851.htm
cool, thanks for the link! i bought the correct one then.
I keep coming back to this thread for inspiration, my V3 is still about 50% untrimmed!! Must pull myself together and get it done!! Keep up the great work it looks killer!!!
tut tut... Joe *wags finger*
More pics.... please? got any close ups of the chest damage ya wanna share DM?
Alright Gav, finished that AP kit yet mate......cough cough....tut tut... Joe *wags finger*
More pics.... please? got any close ups of the chest damage ya wanna share DM?
Erm... *shuffles feet* Fett took over officer?
lookin' good!
GREEN!!
lookin' awesome
Now the FUN begins......
This afternoon I made a trip over to our friendly neighborhood SPIDEYFETTS house to get some HELP on weathering JB's armor.
I must admit that yours truly has never done ESB armor...only ROTJ...and since OLD SPIDEYFETT has done some excellent ESB I felt the need to get his help.:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup
So to make a long story short I simply handed over the armor to Alex and watched him do his magic. The pics you see below really does not ever come close to showing off the GLORY of the weathering that was done. In person it is INCREDIBLE. For those of you that will be coming down to Dallas for the JB presentation you will get to see what I mean.
Spidey...thanks man..today was a educational experience for me in the ART of ESB armor!!!
Tomorrow the Masking comes off and we will take a look at our SILVER!!!
then on to the Yellow!!!
Last edited by DarthMiller; 01-27-2008 at 05:49 PM.
Looks great
Great pictures bro...glad you learned a few things
We're just movin right along with the Project...great work so far.
I was wondering if it would be any trouble posting the colours used to paint? I am doing an ESB suit afterall
I'm in the same boat (ESB)... also would you be able to post those awesome ref. pics...mine don't look that good, and i have brak's ref CD v.1
thx
thanks for posting all those progress pictures. seeing the green now, i know for sure mine turned out to dark, tried mixing my own green, but there are just not enough good reference pics out there.
and the Masking fluid comes off!!!!!
I will post the colors Alex and I used later today
Awesome, keep the progress pics coming!
Great work DM... lovin the detials... :thumbup
I'm very keen to see what colours you used to mist/weather?
Looking real good there guys!!!!
D
WOW Jason that looks AWESOME with the fluid pulled..
color update....
The base color was US medium green
then we used a super secret Spideyfett mix....Alex can you do the honors and post these
Since I've recieved a few PMs asking about paint colors, I thought I would go ahead and post what was used.I'm very keen to see what colours you used to mist/weather?
This will be listed in the correct stages in which me and DM painted the armor:
After applying the base Silver, "Kylon Metallic Silver" to be exact, and masked the scratches....
1.THE BASE COAT: US.MEDIUM GREEN (PollyScale acrylic)
Yes, the same color that is used for the ROTJ or SE version of the armor.
Reason I choose this color as the base was because allot of people tend to think there's just one "magic" color applied and then from there you go straight to weathering, when really there's a ton of Misting involved...which ends up changing the over all color hue completely. And US Medium Green has a good base hue.
2. Next color applied: To create the dark greenish gray tones, I MISTED DUNKELGRUN RLM 82 (Model Master enamel), I think this is what Jango's Kid and a few others recommend:thumbup..GREAT COLOR....but I've seen this used as a Base color, IMO that is not correct... I use it to create tones only.
3. Third color applied: To create the highlights in the armor, misted.......here it comes..........................PANZER OLIVE GREEN
4. Forth color applied: to create the deeper/ darker tones, I mist GRIMY BLACK (Polly Scale acrylic)....looks dark gray....and I normally mist this over the same areas that I misted the Dunkelgrun Rlm 82...
5. Final color : This is just an accent color, a very lightly misted WASH in certain areas.. FRENCH EARTH BROWN (Polly Scale acrylic)......
6. Yellow scratches that will be added: Yellow Zinc Chromite
7. Chest Diamond: Yes it is a DIFFERENT color than the armor on ESB.... I used CNW GREEN (Polly Scale)
Again addtional weathering is needed once everything is applied....that's where the fun begins..... and just a tip, use extra fine steal wool to help blend once all the colors are applied AND DRIED!!
and most important, and the best advise someone gave me once was..."PAINT WHAT YOU SEE ON THE REF PICS"...
Here's a quick pic I put together to illustrate some of the applications.
Enjoy.
EDIT : DUNKELGRUN 82
Last edited by Spideyfett; 01-26-2009 at 06:27 AM.
Spidey...you gave away all of your secrets!!!
folks..I watched Spidey do all this in person...let me tell you it was awesome to see. follow the steps above and the colors he listed and you will have one super kick butt ESB paintjob!!
I will be working on all of the yellow this week and should have it done by this weekend!!
stay tuned
Heres a contrast color change I did in Photoshop, to give you an Idea of all the tones involved.
Last edited by Spideyfett; 01-29-2008 at 09:24 AM.
Whoa...........that's...........whoa.
Stunning weathering details... 8)
Thanks a huge bunch for the tips too Alex.... did you manage to work your Sig into the misting?
.....actually...8)Stunning weathering details... 8)
Thanks a huge bunch for the tips too Alex.... did you manage to work your Sig into the misting?
Beautiful top-notch paint work, Spideyfett. Thanks for the tutorial as well
Alex,
That's looking so nice...FP makes some flat-out beautiful poly-armor !
and here comes the yellow
Last edited by DarthMiller; 01-30-2008 at 07:52 AM.
It's silver! It's green! It's yellow!
It's. . . armor!!!
Lookin' amazing.
Dang that looks great! Got any pics of the rest of the armor or is just that one piece at this stage for now?and here comes the Yellow
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Looks perfect DM!! wow...:thumbup
Honestly Jason, Jeremy Bulloch is going to be disgusted with that paintjob
because of how amazing you'll make it look.
OK....
got most of the yellow done....a few minor details to work on
center diamond tomorrow
and then final weathering...with the help of our friendly neighborhood Spideyfett
I hear that Spidey guy does some okay work. Who are you getting to do the ketchup weathering metthod?
I use Mustard
Welll, I used to.
Now I use Liquid mask
I was told to PM "Ketchup Boy"...
DM, wanted to take a sec to drop by and say what a wonderful job your doing on this armor. I have watched you grow as a painter in ways that boggle the mind. Cant wait to see this bad boy finished. Good work!
thanks bro....cant wait to get your stickers on these bad boys!!
Wow ! Jason, you're doing a most excellent job of this !!
That weathering is so beautiful ! It just looks, RIGHT !
FP
I finished up masking off the collar and cod piece today and got the GREEN on them!!
been working on the backplate!!
You haven't finished painting this stuff yet?
GOSH!
Seriously, though...awesome work! We need toget together soon...I have a helmet that needs a bit of color...
Outstanding job gents!
Unreal, simply unreal.
That looks fantastic!!!
And... in what pic you can see the dent on the backplate? (up-right), I saw a lot of pics but I can't find any pic with it
Thanks and really good job.
Very impressive!!
here is the pic...not very clear but its what I used
And... in what pic you can see the dent on the backplate? (up-right), I saw a lot of pics but I can't find any pic with it
Thanks and really good job.
It appears the EBS Boba doesn't even have that dent.
No it certainly does not appear that way does it
In the grand scheme of things, with so little reference on the ESB Fett, something that obscure wasn't worth the extra expense for making a second mold that LARGE (backplate mold that is). The mold was designed off of the couple of very tiny pictures that we do have of the whole backplate, and it was PrePro / ROTJ SE).
I figured the "ESB Purist" could fill in if it really bugged them. Sorry I forgot all about that Jason ! But the saving grace is ... it is that obscure. It really is a very minor difference that isn't worth losing any sleep over now that it is painted (if you don't want to fill it this late in the game that is
Sill looking amazing Jason !
FP
Last edited by fettpride; 02-07-2008 at 06:13 AM.
Aha, ok! Thank you very much to all for answer
in the pic I was looking at the silver at the top near the collar.....if you noticed it appears to have a large silver area and so I added this to the armor
As far as the dent I did see that the pics dont have the dent but the FP armor did and I made the artistic decision to go ahead with it.
One thing to note is that Spideyfett is the guy that pretty much signs off on my work. We will look at this together and we may decide to remove that dent. Its a easy fix if we decide to do it.
I would venture to guess that even if you just decided not to paint that dent in and leave it green it would not be that noticeable anyway. Much easier than having to fill it in.
I did decide to fill in the dent...I have updated pics this weekend
Last edited by DarthMiller; 02-08-2008 at 05:44 AM.
DOh!!! lol
OK...filling in the dent....
I am going to get it green tomorrow.....man what I will do for Jeremy
Bummer... but going to be much better I think! I was going to do the same DM, but at least I haven't gone green yet?
JB's gonna love it... doing great stuff!
Uhm, Jason? You did remove the paint "IN" the dent first before filling, didn't you ?
*Sigh* I just can't please everyone
I think from this point forward, the backplate will be "Dentless"
FP
Hey come on FP... you know your work kicks butt, I think you can be forgiven for a little dent...*Sigh* I just can't please everyone
FP
Given the amount of people on this board with their own way of perceiving things... you'd be hard pushed to please 'everyone'
I personally think the back plate is fine the way it is...gives it Character..
As a matter of fact, with the help of a close friend of the project, we were able to get our hands on some production photos of Fett ESB shots that no one has ever seen before....
And heres the kicker, the little red shoulder stud that everyone sees in the hall way scene in ESB with Fett, Lando, and Vader, well in these new shots NO RED Shoulder Studs....Clear as day.....so I don't know what it is we are all seeing in that scene??...again I can post the shot in a few months once they have been released, "Hopefully"
Great Work so far DM, and AWESOME armor FP...
Cheers.
Last edited by Spideyfett; 02-08-2008 at 07:26 AM.
Maybe it's red lighting off camera that gives the hue of red.
Never mind my last comment,looked at the pic again, couldn't be lighting.
I think that's what everyone's original thought was....... who knows?
Only other thing I could think of is that maybe for that scene, they put on a different set of studs?Never mind my last comment,
Have to agree with that. As many "parts" that Fett has, they could've changed them out. We all know that continuity is the most important thing when it comes to the Star Wars films.
Have to agree with that. As many "parts" that Fett has, they could've changed them out. We all know that continuity is the most important thing when it comes to the Star Wars films.
So you think we should add it on the final version of Jeremy's suit???
Or the backwards Fett in Jabba's palace.
You could give Jeremy an extra "red" one to change out if he see fit.
Perfect, we're using correct press keys anyway, so that shouldn't be no problem.. we have plenty of thoseOr the backwards Fett in Jabba's palace.
You could give Jeremy an extra "red" one to change out if he see fit.
Last edited by Spideyfett; 02-08-2008 at 08:32 AM.
Just wanted to drop in to say good work Jason on the paint up. Some of your best work.
updated pic of the backplate
Wow!!!!!! Looking great!
Looking great!! I'll freeze frame ESB to make sure the other back dent is there or not.
I know it's no big deal guys
But in the interest of wanting this to be absolutely PERFECT for Jeremy, Jason and i have decided to replace the backplate with a "Dentless" copy
Spidey - thanks soo much for that !!! A little vindication goes a long way
As far as the shoulder stud goes .. I think the pic that Jason posted shows what I've been theorizing. I believe that the red light was *added* , much like a laser blast, or lightsaber glow is added to the film in any particular fx scene. You can see in that pic, as with any "still" of a laser blast, or like the SE shot of "han Shooting first" .. it just looks FAKE
SCREEN ACCURATE !!!
FP
Last edited by fettpride; 02-08-2008 at 06:16 PM.
Wow,,, I hope the dent doesn't show up later....lol
OK...big update here
this is the FINAL Chest, Ab plate and center diamond....BIG THANKS to SPIDEYFETT as he completed the final weathering on this!!!
and here is a shot of the collar and cod piece....
again weathering done by SPIDEY!!
masking fluid removed....and tomorrow I will begin on our YELLOW
getting close!!!!
next week on to the shoulders and knees!!!!
WOW! Great job by you two
Will the chest symbol be decal or hand painted?
decal ...unless Spidey wants to Hand Paint
WOW! Great job by you two
Will the chest symbol be decal or hand painted?
You guys could have negative decals made and use them as stencils for airbrushing.
I took a screencap of the cod when Jeremy had the belts a little mixed up, you can see the upper damage.
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