Not sure if they have them online or not, but I got mine in the store... they had a strap on the wrist (much like the ones last year) and it is easily cut off... I also heard cutting out the liner makes it fit looser for bigger hands.
The pictures below are to compare to my old ones (the new ones are an inch or two longer ) and the color under better lighting.
thanks for the tip. I passed by target earlier and it looks like they haven't put out much cold weather stuff yet but I'll definitely keep a lookout for a set
hmmm, Ohio may be getting there stuff out earlier than the others then... I'd say within the next month or so all of them will be having them.
Thanks guys,