wait time

Are those lids actually side by side in that pic? The MF is a tad bit smaller than the MR lid correct?
I was hoping to nab one of those MDF lids but was late to the party. Guess it's just a bit smaller than the MF, but should still exhibit the same ear angle.
Would be great to see this added in to an MR based lid.
 
syllander said:
With Anovos holding the costume license, I would have to say there's no way it'd be wearable. Can't remember where all the talk came from, but it sounded fairly(?) legit.
Guess we've gotten quite off from the OP's thread here, sorry about that!
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They can make it wearable, they just can't market it as a costume. I would model the eFX Stormtrooper for Gino and the gang.
 
GCNgamer128 said:
They can make it wearable, they just can't market it as a costume. I would model the eFX Stormtrooper for Gino and the gang.
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Guess we'll see eventually. Would like to get one of these if they did, even if it was cleaned up a bit. And I'd imagine a repaint would be in order.
 
I still think FPH2 is best lid out there,but that's my 2 cent.... :)

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Regarding the MF as "the holy grail"
It really isn't.
It has been distorted from it's original shape. Other versions that come from the same PP2 plug are not distorted but even they have some rather serious issues inherent to the original casting from Don Post.
That being said, it is a great base and you can really make something great of it with some work. I would say a cleaned up and corrected version would give you the nicest helmet currently "out there" but a holy grail.. no.

Like the FPH2 some people put these things on a pedestal. If you think they are perfect, they are not. So to each his own and lavish praise if you will. But just be aware it falls in the realm of opinion unless you choose to know the facts.
 
DanzoFett said:
I still think FPH2 is best lid out there,but that's my 2 cent.... :)
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The FPH2 image has been altered in Photoshop.
Even so the fact that he's comparing it to the EFX as a sign of its accuracy should tell you something.
I'm sometimes a patient man. I can wait.
But if I had to do a helmet right now, sure I'd pick the FPH2 for ESB and some version of a PP2 plug casting for PP2 or anything else.
 
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The EFX is a direct cast from the ESB hero, no scanning or anything of the sort...a physical direct cast...so i'd think if it ever does get produced, it SHOULD be the most accurate/closest representation of said helmet..so that is why i compared the FPH2 to the efx cast..because lord knows i'll likely never hold the actual hero helmet lol That said, for ESB i still think the FPH2 is the closest currently available.

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GCNgamer128 said:
They can make it wearable
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Id think that depended on the specifics within the contract, but yes it is possible they could make it wearable, like the MR. PS: a friend of mine modeled the EFX Hero stormtrooper costume at New York Comic con a couple of years back :)
 
@Keegan...how can you tell the fph2 image has been altered in Photoshop?
Not disagreeing, but what gives that away?
 
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The dent was the obvious give away. It's just been copied and pasted from the EFX image, lightened, and adjusted.
There are many more. The visor obviously but that's not really an issue since I'm sure it was just a raw casting.
Anyway it's not the first time he's altered images of his helmets.
 
Also i agree with you @intwenothor /Andy that the flair is not hugely signifigant overall. When you looks at the FPH2 in person it doesnt scream out "oh look at that flair" but when the ears are on and you step back, looking at it in the slightly chin up position, its there enough to notice. Someone on the Pathfinder/bikerscout boards once said the human eye can see 1mm of difference in something, even if we dont know exactly where we are seeing it..we can just see something is different. Using that logic, i really think thats what it is. When i added the flair on my MR casts, i think i added 1/4" to the overall width which is only 1/8" on each side...not much at all...but when looked at at that same chin up angle, i see the flair, which is why im likely leaving the flar as is and will only make those other changes i mentioned if i ever get around to it lol.

For example in this picture, im wearing one of my casts, and i dont have my chin up lol..the flair isnt really noticeable here
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But in this picture of my wife and her sister where im in the background..even though you can't see me whole head..it is taken from slightly lower and looks like it has more flair/width to it.
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Thus really proving your point, its all about the angles/distance from a camera. I do feel the standard MR does in fact have a more straight angle on ears though. This may be a product of the pinched visor though..as if you take an MR, remove the visor and pull the bottom open to make the visor opening even...that touch of flair returns.

So my thought is, its there on all the helmets, but not as prominent as some may think. You never really see an angle of the ROTJ helmet quite like that dining room shot in ESB.. also Jeremy was super thin in ESB so that also can make the helmet look wider in general. He bulked up a little for ROTJ which in turn would make the helmet look less wide as well.


Interesting Keegan..interesting.
 
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Darth Voorhees said:
.. also Jeremy was super then in ESB so that also can make the helmet look wider in general. He bulked up a little for ROTJ which in turn would make the helmet look less wide as well.
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No. The two helmets vary slightly in width and shape. They likely all do but as you point out, we aren't talking about miles of difference.
To wit; I have the widths of the ESB helmet and PP2.
I will see if I can get permission to post them.
 
Darth Voorhees said:
The EFX is a direct cast from the ESB hero, no scanning or anything of the sort...a physical direct cast...so i'd think if it ever does get produced, it SHOULD be the most accurate/closest representation of said helmet..so that is why i compared the FPH2 to the efx cast..because lord knows i'll likely never hold the actual hero helmet lol That said, for ESB i still think the FPH2 is the closest currently available.

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Id think that depended on the specifics within the contract, but yes it is possible they could make it wearable, like the MR. PS: a friend of mine modeled the EFX Hero stormtrooper costume at New York Comic con a couple of years back :)
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I was actually going to head to NYC to do that! I just couldn't make it though. I was glad to hear they found someone else to wear it.
 
Lou, that's a great point about Bulloch; he really was stick thin back then and it makes a huge difference. That helmet is huge on his shoulder.

Keegan, The MF/MR shot posted up: is that an MR Proto (an actual original prototype) or a recast of one?
Massively interested in the PP2 ESB dimension issue. If you can, you can. If you can't... oh well

I would say the MR does seem slightly bigger than the MF but I also think that's due in part to some slight differences in shape.
 
It is photoshopped. You are seeing the original picture in that thread. It's not super obvious to you?
Proportions have been altered, details copied and pasted, angles changed etc. etc.
The sad part is they compare pretty favorably WITHOUT cheating so I don't understand the rationale.
 
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I was actually going to head to NYC to do that! I just couldn't make it though. I was glad to hear they found someone else to wear it.
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haha nice. yea it was my freind Trevor who is a freind of another garrison mate..he came close to joining the 501st but got caught up with school. Maybe eventually. But he is super thin and was able to fit the suit. It is supposedly made as a disply though and its wearbale only if your thin enough haha.

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Lou, that's a great point about Bulloch; he really was stick thin back then and it makes a huge difference. That helmet is huge on his shoulder.
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Yea that was something i tend to forget. I at one time was looking at how wide it looked on him, but then i realized he was super thin then. Im a bit stocky these days and the FPH2 looks a little bit small on me, (comparing it to how it looked om Jeremy back in 1979/80) where my MR casts seem to look pretty good on me size wise in the same respect. Its def something to keep in mind when looking at screen shots for reference.
 
The MR based helmets that I've seen definitely have the angle off on the R side of the bucket. I noticed that in one of the sales threads back in 2013, but thought maybe it was just me. The same effect can be seen on FP's site that still shows the premium lid. That was corrected for sure on the FPH2.
Going back and looking at the GMH on his site, maybe it's due to the angle as well, as DVH was saying, seems to have nice angle/flare to the ear platforms.

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Furious said:
Has anyone even received an FPH2 recently?

I've tried emailing him to check on the status but have not heard back. Starting to worry
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Sadly, I have to tell you its been ３ years since I paid up front for Helmet and Armour from Chris! I figure its time to come to terms With the fact I'll never receive my goods! It really digs to hear orders are still being taken!!
 
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