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  1. Jigglenomicon's Avatar
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    Jan 6, 2014, 6:29 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide #26

    i looked and found this http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f25/e...44/#post558341
    problem is, im not sure if its ROTJ or ESB.

    *runs off to dig more through the forum*
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    Jan 7, 2014, 10:45 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide #27

    Okay so i looked around and and put together this one and i am pretty sure that its at least 75% ESB accurate
    please give me your comments and critique.

    http://www.jigglenomicon.com/img/PBN3.3.png

    Again i have used the supreme stencils by Rafalfett and color info compiled from snippets around TDH

    Rafalfett's decals : http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f25/a...-decals-42537/
    Rafalfett's armor stencils : http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f25/b...tencils-42095/
    Last edited by Jigglenomicon; Jan 16, 2014 at 7:11 PM. Reason: corrected some text
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    Jan 8, 2014, 7:37 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide #28

    Gonna try to get a similar chart done for the ROTJ version of the helmet, just gonna try to figure out what mixture of Humbrols i can replace the Floquils with.
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    Jan 16, 2014, 6:54 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide #29

    Okay so as far as i can figure out the preferred red Humbrol color for the ROTJ mandibles is Wine No .73
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    Personally the color seems a bit off, does anyone have any suggestions ?

    Also found someone using this combination [Humbrol No. 60, mixed with 73 and 82]
    but that's on a prepro helmet witch look very similar in my eyes.
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    Jan 16, 2014, 7:04 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide #30

    I used 73 on my bucket, and it didn't come out looking quite that purple. Here is my lid http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f22/g...h-501st-48449/
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    Jan 16, 2014, 7:08 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide #31

    Quote dolioshmolio said: View Post
    I used 73 on my bucket, and it didn't come out looking quite that purple. Here is my lid http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f22/g...h-501st-48449/
    Sorry should have specified that i am looking for humbrol alternatives for the ROTJ mandibles.
    Awesome Looking ESB paint job tho!
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    Jan 17, 2014, 5:38 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #32

    This....is...cooler than ****! Thanks for putting this up, I'm sure that this is going to help out a TON of people (myself included!)
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    Jan 17, 2014, 8:23 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #33

    You can get most of the ROTJ Humbrols from my thread bud, the only issue is the back panel green. I virtually tried every combination of humbrol greens, and could never get the correct hue and vibrancy I was able to achieve with the Floquils. As for the mandible Red, I actually think Floquil Caboose is the colour that was used on the real helmet, and still the best option. But if it has to be Humbrol, the closest colour to the Caboose, is actually Humbrol 100 (Red/Brown). It may not appear so in the image paint chart or tin lid, but when sprayed, it is the closest to caboose you will get in the Humbrol range. Anyone who wants to go this way will still want to colour test it for themselves, but it was an option I thought about going with earlier in the piece, when I was having some trouble locating the caboose..
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    Jan 17, 2014, 9:00 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #34

    i wish i could get my hand on the Floquil colors myself and do a comparison test but as Jayvee pointed out they are getting harder to come by and especially for someone in Europe like me
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    Jan 17, 2014, 10:10 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #35

    Really looking forward to see a ROTJ version of your visual guide.
    As I plan to paint such a helmet and the Humbrol paints are the easiest to get hold of for me that's exactly what I'm going to need!
    Thanks a lot for your efforts!
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    Jan 21, 2014, 6:31 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #36

    Okay so here is a WORK IN PROGRESS of the ROTJ version.
    (Still need to figure out the ears and triangle colors + some of the scratches ect.)
    This was compiled using colors from two lists :
    Jayvee's ROTJ paintup www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/update-2013-wip-jayvees-lil-chunk-rotj-love-paint-up-45306/
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    Terminal Fettlers List here http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/r...67/#post460709

    As always i have used RafalFett's stencils http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/b...tencils-42184/

    Personally i find the ROTJ paint scheme is a lot more challenging than ESB and i would really like if people would leave some feedback on this,
    maybe you will notice something i didn't

    http://www.jigglenomicon.com/img/ROTJ-PBN.png
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    Jan 22, 2014, 5:35 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #37

    Nice work man.

    I too am very curious about the mandibles as I believe them to be the same colour as the ROTJ gauntlets. I've been looking for alternatives for Floquils because EvilBay wants a boatload for shipping to Canada.

    We may want to look into humbrol 133: brown satin as well as a mix?

    I will test Jayvee's red 100 out of the tin and see what happens when it dries.
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    Jan 23, 2014, 1:46 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #38

    Just saw this colour. What do you think of Amaranth Red from Vallejo

    https://www.frontlinehobbies.com.au/...%20-%20ACRYLIC

    Too orange?
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    Jan 23, 2014, 10:18 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #39

    Word of caution death proof - never go by a colour chart sample - they often vary considerably to the colour in person, and particularly once it is sprayed through an airbrush..

    Overall, a nice Humbrol collection. I would Highly recommend going with my Humbrol mix for the Dome and lower cheeks though, and if you don't want to mix anything, then even Humbrol 31 alone is a better representation of the ROTJ than 78. 78 is great for ESB though..

    I would also still be careful using black and mists for the upper cheeks. Garrett is extremely talented and colour knowledgeable, so can make it work. But I think this may be tricky for everyone to pull off, and have the cheeks look the way they should. Again, even though its not Humbrol, I still like the tamiya sea blue mix, and found no real great alternative in the Humbrol line alone - and trust me when I say I colour tested extensively for those suckers!
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    Jan 24, 2014, 7:13 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #40

    Here is Humbrol 100....

    Thoughts?

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    Jan 24, 2014, 7:48 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #41

    Thats pretty orange, i would properly have mixed some red no 73 in
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    Jan 24, 2014, 11:12 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #42

    Try it over silver Deathproof, as white will bring it out at its brightest, and you will be spraying over silver on the lid. Always good to replicate the order of colours that you are going to use. Also, it will look quite different out of the airbrush, rather than just painted straight out of the tin..

    Update - actually mate, after just going through my stocks and checking the colour, 100 IS actually too orange in comparison to Caboose, and will need the wine mixed with it to give it the right shade. I was confusing the straight colour with a mix.. Forgive me bud, it was a while ago I was testing that colour, and still think its far easier to use Caboose. Which is essentially a nice way of saying I am getting old, and memory is a little $hitty..
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    Jan 25, 2014, 10:22 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #43

    how would you mix them then ?
    1:1 ?
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    Jan 25, 2014, 10:48 AM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #44

    I'm going to take a trip to the hobby shop today for a few maroonish tests. I've seen Wisconsin Central Maroon available from a company called Tru Color. Seems to be a good equivalent so hopefully I can get it. Humbrol also has a railroad line with a EWS Red (rc418) and a Carmine (rc423) that look hopeful.
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    Jan 25, 2014, 9:14 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #45

    Quote Jigglenomicon said: View Post
    how would you mix them then ?
    1:1 ?
    I would probably start out testing with a mix of 2:1 (2 parts 100, 1 part 73). While the 100 is a little orange, it isn't that far off, and just needs a little deeper red. Then, depending on those tests, I would add more or less depending on the colour. I f i get a little time, I will have a go over the next week or so. As I still have some caboose left, I can at least try to match it up best as possible..
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    Jan 26, 2014, 10:48 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #46

    So while I was scavenging around the threads, I found this:

    painting-grant-mccune-helmet-gmh-la-foto-1-.jpg-53166d1305631717

    Seems like it's a good mix!

    The whole thread (#207) is quite a good read actually. Everyone works together to go from the mandible red being Wisconsin Central Maroon to Caboose, to people not finding Caboose, to using Humbrols.

    I would imagine that this mix be best used for the gauntlets as well.
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    Jan 27, 2014, 12:22 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #47

    they seem to be discussing the prepro 2 paint scheme in that thread but
    73 and 100 mixed really seems like the right choice to me , at least if you have to go with humbrol.
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    Jan 27, 2014, 12:31 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #48

    I will go back to the hobby shop today and trade in my British crimson (too dark, too violet) and go for this mix.

    The thread talks about the prepro2 but then transitions to the ROTJ because they are similar.
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    Jan 27, 2014, 12:57 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #49

    Quote DeathProof said: View Post

    The thread talks about the prepro2 but then transitions to the ROTJ because they are similar.
    Aye figures as much, looks like the prepro bucket has a dash of pink as-well.
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    Jan 27, 2014, 1:35 PM - Re: "Paint by numbers" Humbrol Visual Guide - ESB Helmet & Armor *ROTJ ON THE WAY * #50

    looks like i got most of the colors down now, i just need to figure out / research the color of the upper cheeks and the red/blue in the arrows on the top.

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