Devilstar2k2
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Could anyone of you proud MR helmet owner be so kind and tell me the dimensions of the shipping box? Please!
Wolfi
13.5 x 15 x 23
Could anyone of you proud MR helmet owner be so kind and tell me the dimensions of the shipping box? Please!
Wolfi
OK, since I made the mentioned post, what questions might I be able to answer? I don't have an MR prototype in hand, but I do have the MF and I have access to a prototype. I also know a considerable amount about the original MR work on the helmet.
Also, gonna nix the idea of the MF bust shrinking, especially in the amounts FP mentioned about the ears as too many other dimensions line up perfectly. Shrinkage to that degree would have the entire helmet off and it simply isn't.
I suppose the biggest question for me would be to know if the cad guys at MR compensated for the casting process in any way within any tolerances? It's not a real big deal when you get right down to it. However you look at it, shrinkage, or even slightly larger, it's almost negligible. It's more of a curiosity than anything.
The *dent* is a big curiosity too. Any idea what happened between the proto and the production? Is there any way to get a casting of the prototype dent to stick in my bucket since I'm cutting it up ?
On the Mf bust, not sure what to say there. Perhaps MR altered something somewhere, because the resin RS ears sure don't fit. Perhaps the resin ears shrunk a little from their masters? I kept the RS ears specifically for the MR because i knew the MR ears were just plain *bad*. I'm just trying to figure out what goes to what, essentially, cherry pick what fits best with what
They pretty much all reek of fresh paint when you first open them.I just received my helmet (thanks Dark Shadow!), number 254, and MAN DOES THIS THING STINK!!!!! IT SMELLS HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!
Lol.
I agree though. Wearing it's almost like sticking your head in an empty paint bucket.
Before I say anything I want to make sure it is understood that this is SECOND HAND info, given to me from someone who worked directly on the Fett helmet project. I wasn't there, so I am only passing on what I was told or what I have seen in photographs.
It is my understanding that very little was done to the realscan with only the typical corrections that apparently are required for any scan. There was no purposeful upscaling or changes made. I know that there were issues with the dent, the keyslots, the triangles, etc (see a pattern in the problem areas) and that MR had to go back and take additional pics of the PP3 of these areas. Interestingly enough, each of these problem areas appear to be a bit off to me... perhaps it is because they took a bit of artistic licensing with the correction of those specific areas. MR had considered cleaning the helmet or even making it symmetrical as was originally done to the stormtrooper helmet. However, I, and others, pushed for NOTHING to be changed and to the best of my knowledge, nothing was purposefully changed or cleaned. Clearly the realscan didn't capture every nuance of the original helmet (I think people have the wrong impression that real scan technology is far more advanced and sophisticated than it is) and I am sure even the minimum cleanup that was necessary might have took away other nuances (yes I used that word twice because I can't think of another word to describe such subtle details).
I was told that a professional propmaking company in CA made the prototypes. I don't know how they were made. I don't know if a foam block was carved from the realscan data and then a mold was made of that or what. I saw and held one of at least two prototypes made by this company. If was the best and most professional fiberglass prop I have ever seen. It was absolutely flawless. Note... I did not say anything about accuracy...
The prototype I saw was painted by Jason Eaton (and I believe shown here at TDH) and then repainted by Rogue Studios. Rogue Studios also painted the second ptototype. I don't know what happened to those prototypes. I don't know what was used for production and any guess would be pure speculation. Rogue Studios MIGHT know more but I am not sure as his input was focused on the paint and weathering.
The two things that stood out to me regarding the prototype (aside from the stunning fiberglass work) was that the helmet was exceedingly crisp and compared to the MF, exceedingly clean. I had tell-tale warps here and there, but overall it lacked all the subtle (here it comes again) nuances that the MF contains. I don't know if the realscan didn't pick those up or if they were sanded out of a foam prototype or what, but while the MR maintained the warps and curvatures of the original helmet and no doubt came from one, it felt very sanitary. Perhaps I only say that because the MF has so much characetr. I was stunned when I received that helmet, and was more stunned when I went back to the original pics and could match up all the "trashiness." I honestly believe most people, especially the public at large, would not want such a helmet because they would consider it ugly and unrefined. The MR stands in stark contrast to that with a very smooth dome and very clean lines.
I only have the MF in hand. I don't know what happened to the dent, but clearly, as can be seen with Lee's abandoned paintwork, changes were made after our involvement ended...
I can't speak to any of this because I don't have the RS cast ears or the MR production helmet. I can't explain the discrepancy.
I only have the MF in hand. I don't know what happened to the dent, but clearly, as can be seen with Lee's abandoned paintwork, changes were made after our involvement ended...
I can't speak to any of this because I don't have the RS cast ears or the MR production helmet. I can't explain the discrepancy.
I want to see a comparison of the MR prototype with the production piece.
If the proto is better as I have suspected it is, then I think a little black market work with silicone is in order.
MR made it for everyone to have. Im not too keen on having a new group of elitists, however unintentional it is.
The MR Proto looks a hundred times better, IMO!!!...so jealous.
I am not sure I would say it is 100 times better, but pretty much like any prototype we see anywhere, the prototype is usually better looking than the final product... it is just an unfortunate but apparently inherent result of mass production.