Recaster Alert: Salamanderking

Discussion in 'The Sarlacc Pit' started by Wasted Fett, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. Wasted Fett

    Wasted Fett Active Member

    It has come to my attention that this dude has been recasting Fettpride products that I currently make. Salamanderking on the forums. He makes servos for rangefinders / light kits and is even friends with people from the forum. At this point I will not be selling anything to anyone in Germany for the foreseeable future.
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  2. Viper

    Viper Member

  3. Wasted Fett

    Wasted Fett Active Member

    him and a Marcus Knorr have been recasting the FPH2 among other things on his facebook group MK Industries.
     
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  4. Viper

    Viper Member

    It's a damn shame. Interested to see if salamanderking has anything to say for himself...:cautious:
     
  5. intwenothor

    intwenothor Active Member

    That Marcus Knorr guy has posted a picture where the helmet has the Fettpride logo in place! Not cool.
     
  6. Jc27

    Jc27 Active Member

    If that picture shows his quality of helmets, hopefully people will not buy his recast garbage.
     
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  7. Mattcover

    Mattcover Jr Member

    That helmet makes my eyes hurt...
     
  8. VIARPE

    VIARPE Jr Member

    Hi all, could some one explain me how does the "recasting rules" work?
    I allways thought that anyone could recast fettpride stuff because he scammed people here.
    At least I infered that by the fact that as far as I know, both WastedFett (who I just bought some armor from hehehe :) ) and Animefan do FP's recasts.
    As a quick note, I do not plan to recast anything in the future, just curiosity.
    TY!
     
  9. intwenothor

    intwenothor Active Member

    It doesn't really work that way. That would probably fall into the 'two wrongs don't make a right' category but it's not an unreasonable question because I would expect there are people with outstanding FP orders from FP who find it tough to see that FP products are still being made and sold.

    That said every case of recasting should be viewed on its own merits or lack thereof. This is a subject that has been rehashed many times and there are always conflicting viewpoints over what is or isn't acceptable or even what does or what doesn't constitute recasting.

    A google search of 'recasting props' will bring up a fair few hits including an interesting video with Adam Savage and friends discussing the subject. A few days worth of reading through the old threads will cover most of the conflicting viewpoints but not all of them.
     
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  10. rnbuda

    rnbuda Active Member

    Animefan and WastedFett received their molds from Chris at Fett Pride.

    They are not recasts.
     
  11. Mullreel

    Mullreel Well-Known Member

    Wasted Fett and Animefan are making casts off of FP molds with his permission. They bought molds from FP. So they aren't recasting...........they are casting.
     
  12. VIARPE

    VIARPE Jr Member

    TY for your answers. I'll investigate further.
     
  13. Wasted Fett

    Wasted Fett Active Member

    investigate what?
     
  14. Kdogg211187

    Kdogg211187 Jr Member

    The morals (or lack thereof) to recasting. He was asking why it is taboo to recast.
     
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  15. 01Hawk

    01Hawk Active Member

    I think you are misunderstanding ( with no malicious intent) what WastedFett and Animefan are doing- they have the actually FP molds and are casting product from them ( as I understand it). Recasting would be if I purchased a helmet ( or any individually sculpted product) from any vendor , made a mold of it and cast parts from that mold. They created the original product or purchased the original molds from the artist that did create it and therefore the product is " theirs". Im not sure how that rule applies to 3D printed parts ( i.e. : someone uploads a file, someone downloads and prints it and makes a mold of that and sells castings), but for sculpted or hand created parts that is how I understand it. Its like copying and producing a piece of art without the original artists permission.
     
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  16. VIARPE

    VIARPE Jr Member

    Oh, the google search of 'recasting props' that intwenothor suggested.
     
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  17. VIARPE

    VIARPE Jr Member

    Yes, I did not know about that. Was curious :)
     
  18. clmayfield

    clmayfield Member

    Thanks intwenothor for pointing out this great discussion:


    I have bought recasts in the past for both a Fett Helmet and a Ghostbusters proton pack. I regretted both of them. Especially the proton pack because I spent considerable time working on it and the casting was poor. There are two issues here, the ethics and the quality. When someone makes an original casting, they put a tremendous amount of research, time, and creativity into it. Recasters simply steal all of that IP. Second, because recasters are in it for a quick buck, the recasting is almost always inferior to the original. Purely from a quality standpoint, you are not going to get the same thing. When you look at all of the time you will put into painting a bucket, spend the extra couple of bucks on a good platform.
     
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  19. Bbbmssr

    Bbbmssr New Member

    So who owns the fett pride molds for the helmet now
     
  20. clmayfield

    clmayfield Member

    I believe that Animefan owns the ROTJ FPH2 and Wasted Fett owns the ESB FPH2.
     
  21. intwenothor

    intwenothor Active Member

    The great thing about that video is that it covers the material equivalent of a handful of angry recaster threads without the usual flame war.
     
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  22. Wasted Fett

    Wasted Fett Active Member

    Wrong. I own the fph2 ESB regular, proto, ROTJ regular fph2, ae2015 fpa armor, new unreleased ESB armor. ROTJ armor. ROTJ gaunts and ESB gaunts. Did I cover everything. Yep.

    Edit. Jetpack mold

    I believe I own those molds that I bought from chris.
     
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  23. clmayfield

    clmayfield Member

    Thanks for the correction. I didn't realize you had all of those molds. And you are producing those gaunts as well or you just have the molds?
     
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  24. Wasted Fett

    Wasted Fett Active Member

    producing them, ill have a for sale thread soon.
     
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