MSH2 and MS3 Comparison

Spideyfett

Well-Known Hunter
Went to Darthmiller's tonight and took some comparison shots of my MSH2 and his new MS3.

Sorry for the Bad Pics,,,,but these where the best I could clean up....
Pretty interesting to see the differences .....

Enjoy.:)

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DarthMiller

Active Hunter
here are a few more shots....I must say these were awesome to put side by side.

I want to go on the record and say both are INCREDIBLE and I dont like one more than the other. I love them both. In fact I am going to break into Spideys house and take his FETTPRIDE so I can have both for myself!! LOL

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batninja

Well-Known Hunter
And nobody called me? You guys suck! :)

Too bad you didn't have a standard DP, to see a difference in size from bottom to top!
 

Benkenove

Active Hunter
Amazing pics... I guess this is what all the Fett lovers were waiting for... some siz<e comparisions :p.

Although both are amazings, I have note a huge SIZE difference between both helmets... It´s more evident in the front view... This has open a great doubt in my mind..

WHICH ONE IS CLOSER TO THE ORIGINAL ONE ???

I mean, It´s ovbious that are great helmets, but, which one, in terms of accuracy and size, is most accurate ???

After seeing the pics, it cannot be both !!! the size difference is very noticiable...

Any expert comment on this would be helpfull !!!

Thanks for the pics, and for the comments.
 

fettpride

Well-Known Hunter
Benkenove said:
Amazing pics... I guess this is what all the Fett lovers were waiting for... some siz<e comparisions :p.

Although both are amazings, I have note a huge SIZE difference between both helmets... It´s more evident in the front view... This has open a great doubt in my mind..

WHICH ONE IS CLOSER TO THE ORIGINAL ONE ???

I mean, It´s ovbious that are great helmets, but, which one, in terms of accuracy and size, is most accurate ???

After seeing the pics, it cannot be both !!! the size difference is very noticiable...

Any expert comment on this would be helpfull !!!

Thanks for the pics, and for the comments.


Simple answer ... and from one of the maker's no less, so it can't be debated ;)

As far as accuracy goes, any helmet that has a "Mystery Helmet" origin, is actually closer in size to the original. That is of course, unless it is a "recast", of a "recast", of a "recast". In which case, the smaller it gets in the long run :lol:

In this case, Marrow_Sun's MS3 would be closer in size to the real Fett Helmet. Although, I cannot speak for how much modification it has undergone whilst in his care, only he could answer that. But that's it in a nutshell.

The MSH2 is larger. As is the original MSH. These are "Fan Sculpts" or "Interpretations", with no actual lineage to a real helmet with the exception of laser measurements taken from an exhibit some years ago. And although "laser measurements" may sound impressive, it is not as much so as it may seem. The MSH series was developed in a time when the original Fett Helmet was thought to be a "Little" larger than than what it actually turned out to be. The MSH2 appears larger in some respects, but is comparable in other respects. In any case, it would be up to the perspective fettster. Some of us have larger heads than others ;)

It should be noted though, that although the "Mystery" based helmets have more of a lineage in size, one has to take into consideration that they are still "Smaller" than the original, marginally, depending on how many generations of casting it's been through. So, it could be argued that both the "Mystery Based" and the MSH series are close to the original in size, from two very different perspectives :lol:

Confused yet?

Ok. I promised simple. So here it is ...

Rogue Studios, a member here who obtained a first generation casting of a real studio Fett Helmet, has compared a "Mystery Based" helmet to his casting, and they are VERY similar in size. However, as he has said himself, they have some not so “Subtle” differences between them. The “Mystery Based” helmets have a story behind them. The short of it is, it was casting from a a real fett helmet, and then heavily modified/altered by Don Post Studios in pre-production. These modifications were made of course, before a few copies snuck out the back door ;) Hence the "Birth" of the "Mystery Helmet". Again, this is the abridged version. For the "Full Story", refer to the "Sticky" thread about it. Oh wait, there isn't one ... but there should be ;) (Helooo Mods) :lol:

So in closing, there really is no simple answer, but I hope it helps none the less ;)
 
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Benkenove

Active Hunter
Yes, more than helpfulll...

I really really appreciate your answer.. and your help here :D:D:D It´s sooo nice when I read so amazing and full of info like this one, so I really thank you for that. !!!

BTW.... email sent. (got a question for you).
 

DarthMiller

Active Hunter
incredible input..thanks FP!!!!



fettpride said:
Simple answer ... and from one of the maker's no less, so it can't be debated ;)

As far as accuracy goes, any helmet that has a "Mystery Helmet" origin, is actually closer in size to the original. That is of course, unless it is a "recast", of a "recast", of a "recast". In which case, the smaller it gets in the long run :lol:

In this case, Marrow_Sun's MS3 would be closer in size to the real Fett Helmet. Although, I cannot speak for how much modification it has undergone whilst in his care, only he could answer that. But that's it in a nutshell.

The MSH2 is larger. As is the original MSH. These are "Fan Sculpts" or "Interpretations", with no actual lineage to a real helmet with the exception of laser measurements taken from an exhibit some years ago. And although "laser measurements" may sound impressive, it is not as much so as it may seem. The MSH series was developed in a time when the original Fett Helmet was thought to be a "Little" larger than than what it actually turned out to be. The MSH2 appears larger in some respects, but is comparable in other respects. In any case, it would be up to the perspective fettster. Some of us have larger heads than others ;)

It should be noted though, that although the "Mystery" based helmets have more of a lineage in size, one has to take into consideration that they are still "Smaller" than the original, marginally, depending on how many generations of casting it's been through. So, it could be argued that both the "Mystery Based" and the MSH series are close to the original in size, from two very different perspectives :lol:

Confused yet?

Ok. I promised simple. So here it is ...

Rogue Studios, a member here who obtained a first generation casting of a real studio Fett Helmet, has compared a "Mystery Based" helmet to his casting, and they are VERY similar in size. However, as he has said himself, they have some not so “Subtle” differences between them. The “Mystery Based” helmets have a story behind them. The short of it is, it was casting from a a real fett helmet, and then heavily modified/altered by Don Post Studios in pre-production. These modifications were made of course, before a few copies snuck out the back door ;) Hence the "Birth" of the "Mystery Helmet". Again, this is the abridged version. For the "Full Story", refer to the "Sticky" thread about it. Oh wait, there isn't one ... but there should be ;) (Helooo Mods) :lol:

So in closing, there really is no simple answer, but I hope it helps none the less ;)
 

Spideyfett

Well-Known Hunter
fettpride said:
"Trouble Maker's"

That's what you guys are ;) :lol:

Seriously tho, nice shots !

FP

:lol: ...learned it by watching you...;) .

Again we just wanted to "FINALLY" put the two best buckets next to eachother......

The first thing you notice of course is the size,.... but for me it was the amount of detail and "LESS CLEAN-UP" that is needed for BOTH of these buckets.
As someone who have painted both types of helmets...it's nice to see that the clean up stage for these helmets is next to none.(y)

JORDY (MARROW) you did a great Job, and the assembly is amazing!!(y)

And FP....well I think I've started enough threads in support of your work...throw me a bone or something.;)


I hope we can get more pics of some of the finer details on both helmets a little later.

Thanks,

Alex.
 
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evan4218

Active Hunter
Thanks FP for that great information, I learn something new here every day!

Thanks also to DM and SP for posting those pics and starting this thread. What a dedicated group!!!
 
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