Sci-Fire 7th Legion/ Commander Faie Clone Armor Build

OK guys... spent about 2 hours using dgasser's method with a straight razor and lets me tell ya... that is the ticket! Really took the sharpness to the next level! I actually went a bit farther than I expected to go but after looking at the reference, the breasts almost look like they are separate pieces from the ribcage, so I went in with the razor and small flat files and the square file and etched out the breasts in more detail. I am going to have to go back and fill a few bad spots, but overall, I am pretty pleased with the results and the progress I have made today.

My tendinitis is killing me, but the chest is starting to shape up. Will I have this ready in time for Comic Con? I am thinking no way at the rate I am going, but at least when I am done, I will be happy.

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Bingo!!

That's fantastic!! There's no way any vac table will pic up that sharpness in the chest. That's what Dana & I did with ours in order to accomplish that sharpness.

Great job man!

I could already tell that this wont be just any other clone. It's going to be a killer clone. To bad it wont be a 41st either. :D:lol:
 
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Took a look at the thighs tonight and I am going to have to take at least 2" out of the circumference of the thighs.... which means I am going to have to do some interesting filling and patching to make the edges match back up....

Also took a look at the biceps and well.. the biceps just baffle me.
 
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Since I am working on a stormtrooper build alongside the clone build, I thought it might be interesting to see the crazy difference in size between a typical trooper chest plate and the clone chest plate.

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That looks really good, Art. I like the way you've sharpened the edges. I did the same for the legs and chest on mine as well. This is one benefit from having very thick armor pulls. I actually used a needle file set to work the chest on mine.
 
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Thanks John! I too am using jeweler's files on some of the chest. I have pretty unsteady hands so while this stuff looks good in pics, it is a bit rough in person. Hoping to get it cleaned up along and along. I am a bit apprehensive about doing this to the whole suit but it is nice to know that most of the other parts are just simple line sharpens, and not as complex as the breasts.
 
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wow... i'm guessing that, details aside, the AP and Gino chest are about the same size.

i found the AP chest fit me pretty well.

so it seems that the clone one would just be ginormous.

how does it actually sit on you? not necessarily front to back, but side to side?
 
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ART ANDREWS said:
Took a look at the thighs tonight and I am going to have to take at least 2" out of the circumference of the thighs.... which means I am going to have to do some interesting filling and patching to make the edges match back up....
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I had to so the same thing on my own sculpts. I made them a bit larger just to be safe, but still had to cut them down to fit properly.
 
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stormtrooperguy said:
wow... i'm guessing that, details aside, the AP and Gino chest are about the same size.

i found the AP chest fit me pretty well.

so it seems that the clone one would just be ginormous.

how does it actually sit on you? not necessarily front to back, but side to side?
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Yup, the Gino chest plate should virtually be identical in size to the AP since they more or less came from the same source.

The biggest "problem" I see with the clone armor is that it was simply never made to fit a real live human being. This is no knock on Sci-Fire's work but on the original LFL design itself. Also, the stormtrooper has a very tapered top that allows for decent arm movement while the clone armor doesn't taper as it runs up the chest and I am assuming the end result will be that you will not be able to cross your arms at all.

The chest has an "issue" at the bottom that I haven't been able to properly determine yet... On the bottom is a very thick wide ledge that runs the entire length of the bottom edge. I don't have the ab plate or belt yet so I don't know how the chest will sit on the ab with that ledge. There is no clear photo ref but I think the ledge should thin out as it goes around the body which would completely change the way chest fits. Right now the chest end just under my ribcage and that ledge digs in very harshly under my ribcage, but if I thinned out that bottom ledge, I would end up having to heat the whole chest and pull it in tighter.

As far as the chest and back, both are going to have to have considerable material taken off the sides or I will look like a toothpick in a barrel. I am just concerned that if I actually make it "fit" me that it will look ridiculously thin from the profile. We will see. Maybe I will throw the chest on this afternoon and snap a quick pic. I don't want to trim any of the width until I have the ab plate and see how that affects the mix.
 
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The area at the bottom does have a cut-in, at about where the main belt boxes start, thinning that ledge signifcantly. I have a picture up in my thread that shows how I trimmed it.
 
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Thanks for the heads up RS! With this post and a PM, RS directed me to the perfect reference shot that clearly shows the cut on bottom of the chest! No doubt about it now! The ledge on the bottom of the chest cuts away exactly as RS cut his!

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If I might add, what makes this armor a joy to work with is in fact, the consistant pull, throughout, with every piece. It makes for cleaner cuts and trimming. I have had to cut alot of material away too, to fit my body, and the parts still line up virtually precisely. The fact that some of the lines are slightlty soft over reference, like the chest, is actually a beneficial trade-off . The plastic is so thick, you can fine tune it, as Art as shown. I am so stoked on this kit, that I doubt I will be done in time for SDCC 09', I am taking the slow, piece by piece perfectionist route, this armor kit will be last Clone I will build as a result, totally bullet proof for the rigors of "trooping" when finished.
 
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ART ANDREWS said:
Thanks for the heads up RS! With this post and a PM, RS directed me to the perfect reference shot that clearly shows the cut on bottom of the chest! No doubt about it now! The ledge on the bottom of the chest cuts away exactly as RS cut his!
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yeowch. while it may be a small accuracy sacrifice... you may want to round that corner off a wee bit for wearing. that looks like it could hurt if you moved the wrong way!
 
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Haha. Yeah, I will probably round it out a bit, like RS did on his chest plate. Otherwise, that harsh point would be digging in, just under the ribcage... OUCH!

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Very nice stuff! I too will be selling my armor later this summer to acquire this.

Beautiful stuff, I am anticipating a great build and will be watching intently.
 
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Those edges are good for making omlets in the field...you can crack your eggs on them.:D I've just started my Sci-Fire clone build as well, so I've already followed your lead on the chest. Glad to hear I'm not alone in not doing a 41st...as I'm going the AT-RT route.;)

Great job so far! Keep the progress pics coming!(y)
 
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Glad to hear I'm not alone in not doing a 41st...as I'm going the AT-RT route.;)
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AT-RT will be quite the undertaking!!! I initially was going to do a 41st troop, but fell in love with Commmander Faie which has swayed my build.
 
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