SDCC photo complaints

Ok lets sum this up shall we...

ok, i've been told that there were people at the SDCC legion photo that had an issue with my custom mando beingn in the photo.

Good start, states a straight forward and obvious claim. This is where you start to fall...

who are you? lets discuss WHY?

You basically just attempted to single out people to hold them to blame publically... no one likes that, and will get quite defensive.. This is where accusations will start to come out and people will start getting angry/narky...

the SCG photo has always had customs in it as long as i can remember, and this year there were several other customs in it as well.

You tried to start to justify the accusations right after singling people out, no one will actually read this for what it is now. However, showing a photo in here from a previous years group shot could have helped in your favour.

so what is your issue? please let me know. The group of BH's that was taken should've been fine as hopefully we all were members of TDH. Don;t forget the two bobas that arrived right as we finished and didnt get ANY pictures of themselves, or the boba that refused to take their helmet off in the helmet off photo.

email or pm me if you wish.

jszarecki@gmail.com

i personally would be complaining abotu the 4 mandos in the TDH picture as its listed here that are NOT members of the TDH.

Finishing off with pretty much attacking those members ie what is your issue? translates as 'you have a problem and its yours and not mine' to quite a few people. Then trying to shift/share any backlash onto 4 other mandos as well, doesnt really bode well for a good response from anyone...

Basically next time you write something like this, or even a response to this, write what you wanted to say, just like last time. Then walk away from the screen... go do something that you like for about 20-30 mins, get your mind off of it, then come back, re read what you wrote from an outsiders perspective, see how you could be inciting peoples negative reactions to what you have written, then adjust it accordingly to get your point across without singling people out...

My comment on this issue is, if you have worn it in the past with no problems, then that is ok. But take into consideration that things change. 501st Costume Standards have raised, soon even FX kits may not be approvable. The point is that the group photo now may be how the legion wishes itself to be seen by the public, which is only approved costumes. If you were asked to wear your TD and not the Mando, then you should have discussed that with everyone before the shoot, and asked if everyone would have been ok with it.. Personally i wouldnt go against a CO however, but everyone has their reasons.

In your defence, i have an RotS Anakin Skywalker, so i cop as much as Custom Mandos, who at least wear armour and dont wear bathrobes.. I recently got asked 'between the lines' to wear my RotJ Boba to the Clone Wars premiere, however I will be wearing my Approved Anakin, due to the theme of the event, and not what my squad leader dictates... I have a justifiable reason to do so in this case, and if you did too, then you needed to expalin that to the group, or at least have everyone in the know first...

Thats it from me, take my post how you will, but when feeling very defensive in a thread going sour, just stop, walk away and come back with a clear head... it really does work most of the time...
 
well stated.

next this ill take your suggestion in mind.

here are some examples:

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granted i didnt like the yellow version of my costume that year, but it didint matter. the first picture i coulnt more than 10 customs. SL's, BH's TK's, etc
 
well thats what it was called.

and NO i joined the legion with a standard TK back in 2002, by BH was accepted sometime in april or may of 2003 and had that designation until late 2004 I beleive.
 
He became a member of the 501st with that costume prior to the purge.

which is odd, cause he recently asked for another 'purge' of bad costume quality on the main 501st boards pretty recently himself...

and its only been recently that his sandtrooper even looked like a sandtrooper and not just a TK with a bit of dirt and a pauldron.


I dont get this at all, because you're complaining about people not wanting you in a picture, then you bring the same stuff complaining people are in the TDH picture? when the only qualifications to be in the TDH is applying for forum membership?

it makes more sense for anyone to be in the TDH photo then non-canon costumes being in the 501st picture. In Florida, at Mega con we take a bunch of pictures. Official ones that have to have proper costumes in them (so they can be used for publicity purposes) and non official ones, where other people can get in who are 501st members but arent wearing their normal costumes.

IE I was there, I am a 501st member, but I was wearing battlestar galactica stuff, so I couldnt be in the picture. and its my fault for not wearing what I should wear to be in the picture. You wouldnt wear your star fleet uniform into a Star Wars club picture would you? but maybe after the "official" ones were done, since you are a member you could jump in for the unofficial ones that wont be posted for publiticy etc?
 
no. if youre not in the TDH, you shouldnt have been in the picture. and MY costume is not of bad quality, and had nothign to do with me stating that there shoudl be better check s and quality assurance on costumes is all.
 
Well said Crystal.

OK guys... let's chill out here a bit shall we? First things first... let's remember to WATCH OUR LANGUAGE. The Code of Conduct is VERY CLEAR about this.

Secondly, why Jax are you complaining about 501st rules on a non-501st forum? If you have a problem with a 501st event than take it up with the right people. Your complaints here are akin to buying a hammer at Sears and complaining to someone in Home Depot that you broke it the first time you used it.

If it's a 501st group photo than it's quite simply SUPPOSED to be for members in Legion approved costumes. END OF STORY. It's not that difficult to understand... Like Crystal said....she's a 501st member but because she was wearing her BSG stuff she didn't participate. Same thing goes for any large con... if it hasn't always... it should have been. The group photo at DCon is the same way.... it's supposed to be for Legion approved costumes.

Lastly, and here's the one that I can't believe STILL comes up...

The 501st HAS NOT CHANGED IT'S COSTUME RULES IN REGARDS TO CUSTOM MANDOS. Yes, you read that correctly. They were NEVER supposed to be allowed in. NEVER. That simply put. If they were it is because someone wasn't doing their job. Plain and simple. The rule has ALWAYS been for costumes to be canon... I.E. screen and/or LFL media approved. If you were given a BH number (which no doubt you were because plenty were) then it was because your GML was either unclear of his or her duties or just didn't care. A few years back, Michael Washko was the Legion Membership Officer, noticed the influx of customs who didn't belong in the rosters and began to clear them out. I can't believe that after all these years this is still an issue of heartburn for some.

The rules are clear, if you don't agree with them then there are plenty of other options available for you and everyone else. The 501st is not the only Star Wars influenced costuming organization out there.

Hopefully this puts an end to this. If it doesn't, I'm locking the thread and issuing warnings.

Thank you.
 
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As a completly NEUTRAL person, I recommend that this thread gets locked. Im not a fan of drama, especially when it's involving something that is just meant to be fun for everyone
 
I think everybody shuold just chillax, and scuash the hole thing. couse its startin to sound like a cat figth. Can't we all just get along:cry
 
I like the reese's peanut butter in the middle of the cups. its too bad the reese's brand canned peanut butted stuff isnt the same.

but smooth peanutbutter for the win, if i wanted crunchy stuff I would eat peanuts, or candy with nuts, peanut 'butter' implies smoooothe, like lando.

I used to like JiF as a kid but I've kinda moved to peter pan or skippy sugar free :(

Wonder what Fett would eat.
 
For those just tuning in :wacko....yes I hijacked this thread and turned it in to a PB&J discussion :eek:......my apologies.....:)
 
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