Furious
Active Hunter
Wow. I know a couple people that are on 2 years. 3 is insane! Knowing this I just want my money back. Considering I get no replies from emails that probably won't happen.
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fettpride
Well-Known Hunter
Alright guys. That's enough. I've been watching this thread. And it's gone too far. It seems it's become a tradition , to bash 'FP' here. As long as I've been apart of this community (albeit absent 'here' as of late), I don't deserve this. Every other year or so this happens because I've hit some turbulence in my personal life and get real slow on orders. I'm asking nicely, for this to stop here. I couldn't even have an uneventful Christmas. I'd really like to not be highly strung bringing in the New Year too.
I've had some serious personal issues in this last year that have indeed thrown some wrenches in the works and slowed things. I've been very public about this. However, public on my private Facebook. My personal issues have been detailed for my customers so that they can be informed while the matters are resolved. Some lovely folks at another forum have been so kind to take that information and re-post on other public forums. And it's not very kind. Places like TheDentedHelmet cache in Google forever. It was meant to stay between myself and my customers. Now, most of the world can see it. Really appreciate that.
Nevertheless, I have been providing fairly regular updates on my Facebook for my customers. And making strides in tying up my business with folks in back order status. Links to every way to contact me possible, have always been in my email signature. If I've missed an email, there's Facebook. If you're not on my Facebook, I'm sorry. I try to make sure all of my customers are on the same page. Sometimes someone doesn't make it up there, and I look like I've flown the coop. And it couldn't be farther from the truth. I've even had my personal phone number for phone or txt in my email signature for years. There's really little chance that someone can't reach me, with very, very little effort. I do not ignore people on purpose. I never have. And I'm certainly not going to rip anyone off. I haven't in 15 years and don't plan to start now.
I know there are several people here in the membership that would like nothing more than to see me fail. See me gone. There are several in this thread alone. and might I add, a few that have shown me kind support on Facebook, only to find them here taking shots at me. That's one of the reasons I took a leave from TDH. No one wants to spend time where they're not welcome. But people really need to think about what flame / bash threads accomplish. Nothing good. Whereas it may be a pedestal to stand on and clear your throat, it doesn't help the end game. And what I mean by that is, by blowing certain things out of proportion (knee jerk reactions), it creates hostility, damages reputation, affects business, and therefore undermines the good of the community as a whole. And by that I mean, if folks want to keep trying to inflict damages to me, my reputation, my products, it will eventually irreparably damage any means I have of completing my back order log. Is that really want people want? I think folks really need to come to terms with the fact that grand standing, thinking you're blowing a whistle on someone to shame them into producing faster, making life difficult by way of talking them down to other people, stabbing at them any chance you get, isn't like the squeaky wheel getting the grease that it used to be. All you're really doing, is making it infinitely more difficult to take care of business. If you inflict enough damage, you may actually get rid of that someone you want. That's called shooting yourself in the foot. Because you'd not only be hurting yourself, you'd also be hurting others by the time you achieve that goal. I would even dare say, that I could have conceivably caught up with work much faster, if certain individuals hadn't been spitefully trying to make it that much harder to do, throwing their wrenches at me every chance they get for the last year. This is truly a case of living and let live. It really has to be. If folks would just let me do my job, instead of trashing me every chance they get, things would go a lot smoother. And a lot faster. I know it's hard to wait. I do. But we're all adults. We all know that life can kick us from one direction after the next. Private vendors are no different. Have a little human compassion. One day you might need it from someone else.
If it hasn't been said enough already over the years, I've served the community as a whole for a LONG time. Likely even the oldest now. And I've always completed my work. For everyone. No matter the circumstances. Albeit slower when life throws curveballs, and kicks in the gut. Some people throw their hands up and walk away. Think about that for a second? Have I? Absolutely not. Just because a handful of people are upset they haven't receive a reply to an email, doesn't mean I'm MIA. Remember, historically, the Internet has always been a place to see and hear all the 'bad'. Rarely do you ever see any of the good. For every one person that may be thinking they've had the screws put to them, there may be 10 more that received their orders and went on their merry way to work on them. Sadly, I rarely ever see anyone do 'FP' build threads here anymore. You ever wonder why that's the case these days? Because people have become frightened to show off their acquisitions. They've become frightened to show any support for the 'FP' label whatsoever. Because certain individuals 'here' have created a bitter, hostile environment for anything FP. That's not paranoia. It's fact. What is also fact, as long as I am fulfilling my order obligations, there are no laws being broken. I am filling orders regularly. And I have the records to prove it. Circumstantially slow, is NOT a crime.
Please, just cut it out. It's not a very adult approach, to very adult circumstances.
Furious, I've seen several comments from you up here regarding your order. I'd be happy to discuss this with you privately. Missing your messages was not on purpose.
Mark (Magoo), yours is a special case, that I would rather discuss in private as well. I did in fact make a mistake where you are concerned. And I do apologize.
Keegan, there are a few things I would like to discuss with you actually. And I'd be open to doing so if you want to message me.
But while I'm addressing this thread, iI'd like to specifically address your your comments.
The posted picture was most certainly "photoshopped". I haven't even tried to deny this in private. But the source picture, isn't the exact picture you posted. There were several pics taken at that time with variances in angles here and there. The visor blank area was indeed replaced with a visor from another pic (obviously) and there's nothing wrong with that for illustration. Transplanting of details isn't true. With the dent specifically. And I see what you're talking about. But the entire image was cleared of varying shadows. The dent was hard to do that with, without making it look strange. By removing the shadows you end up removing detail and softening things. Especially when reducing a super hi res image down to the composite quality that you're trying to compare to. It is what it is. But the real point here that you may not know, or even realize because it hasn't been discussed yet, is that the picture in question was never posted or publicized on any platform. It was never meant to be used that way. It was a mock up done a long time ago to illustrate the similarities in over all shape. To see where or what is lacking when comparing to a 'holy grail'. There's nothing to hide with this helmet. Plenty of people own them, and can see that the details are the same, in hand. No misrepresentation was ever intended, or forced on anyone like what you've (probably unknowingly) implied. There are a ton of images of this helmet, from varying sources, and it stands up to exactly what has been visually advertised.
Lastly, the FPH2 in general.
When I posted its intro several years ago, I said, you either like it or you don't. It's still there to read. It boggles me to this day how much war this thing causes. I've discussed its origins privately with many. And still won't, to this day, discuss that on an open forum. I have good reason for this. It's ridiculous how many opinions there are out there. Which is why I don't even address the futility usually. Take out of the equation, just for a moment, that it's anything at all whatsoever. Do you like the helmet and the way it looks? Do you not? That's great! You have an opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. People will have their varying opinions of anything that hits the market. It's healthy to have your own opinion. It's far more respectable than accepting the opinions of 'others' as gospel. Letting others influence you can make you look foolish if you're only parroting someone else's statements written elsewhere.
Again, it is what it is. People can compare this to that, and that to this until they turn blue. Think about what it is you're comparing. And what you're comparing to. The MF helmet? Seriously? Sure it's an awesome helmet with an awesome history. Has it not already been established that it was taken from a mold while at Don Post studios that was manhandled? Yes. For years. How can anyone compare anything to it, when it obviously has its own issues. There's isn't a single person that can say with absolute certainty that the dome shape is correct or incorrect, or that the flare is correct incorrect, ect, unless they've held said helmets to an original directly. I can make two of the very same helmet look notably different just from using too much fiberglass catalyst from one to the other. And sometimes there are variances between my castings. That's the nature of hand made. But it doesn't change the fact that the only people that are qualified to compare, or cast judgements, with regard to any helmet that has been discussed here, are those that have been privileged enough to handle the original helmets, or have spent time with them, or have molded them. To date, none of you in this thread, aside of Art, Gino, and even Keegan, have any claim to such privileges. The rest of you are comparing a 30 + year old distorted, mishandled castings of an original helmet, to photographs, and current available helmets.
Even the current helmets are something to tread with much caution. Those of you that have taken to praising the MR, specifically, any FP MR derivative (now made by Animefan or Asok) as being some sort of holy grail, or, still the best for this reason or that? Do you stop to think for a moment, that these helmets came from me? You don't think that I had a hand in altering, or modifying them to meet or exceed public expectation? You don't think that I'm foul able? At the end of the day, no matter what comes from me, there is always a level of artistic license that has been taken. Because to date, the only unadulterated casting of anything that exists, is whatever castings came from the EFX mold of the hero helmet. A single casting from that mold, is, and will always be the holy grail to what all others want to achieve. The MF's, the Stunts, the MR's, the GMH's, the FPH2's, are all tinkered products. Because no one, has been able to get an unadulterated helmet out the door. They've all required restoration, or correction. Or, or, or. It might be in one's better interest to stop wasting their time beating a dead horse and wait for the Licensed helmets to arrive. I'm fairly confident that there will be several people feeling quite foolish when that day comes. Hell maybe even myself included.
Something to think about.
I've had some serious personal issues in this last year that have indeed thrown some wrenches in the works and slowed things. I've been very public about this. However, public on my private Facebook. My personal issues have been detailed for my customers so that they can be informed while the matters are resolved. Some lovely folks at another forum have been so kind to take that information and re-post on other public forums. And it's not very kind. Places like TheDentedHelmet cache in Google forever. It was meant to stay between myself and my customers. Now, most of the world can see it. Really appreciate that.
Nevertheless, I have been providing fairly regular updates on my Facebook for my customers. And making strides in tying up my business with folks in back order status. Links to every way to contact me possible, have always been in my email signature. If I've missed an email, there's Facebook. If you're not on my Facebook, I'm sorry. I try to make sure all of my customers are on the same page. Sometimes someone doesn't make it up there, and I look like I've flown the coop. And it couldn't be farther from the truth. I've even had my personal phone number for phone or txt in my email signature for years. There's really little chance that someone can't reach me, with very, very little effort. I do not ignore people on purpose. I never have. And I'm certainly not going to rip anyone off. I haven't in 15 years and don't plan to start now.
I know there are several people here in the membership that would like nothing more than to see me fail. See me gone. There are several in this thread alone. and might I add, a few that have shown me kind support on Facebook, only to find them here taking shots at me. That's one of the reasons I took a leave from TDH. No one wants to spend time where they're not welcome. But people really need to think about what flame / bash threads accomplish. Nothing good. Whereas it may be a pedestal to stand on and clear your throat, it doesn't help the end game. And what I mean by that is, by blowing certain things out of proportion (knee jerk reactions), it creates hostility, damages reputation, affects business, and therefore undermines the good of the community as a whole. And by that I mean, if folks want to keep trying to inflict damages to me, my reputation, my products, it will eventually irreparably damage any means I have of completing my back order log. Is that really want people want? I think folks really need to come to terms with the fact that grand standing, thinking you're blowing a whistle on someone to shame them into producing faster, making life difficult by way of talking them down to other people, stabbing at them any chance you get, isn't like the squeaky wheel getting the grease that it used to be. All you're really doing, is making it infinitely more difficult to take care of business. If you inflict enough damage, you may actually get rid of that someone you want. That's called shooting yourself in the foot. Because you'd not only be hurting yourself, you'd also be hurting others by the time you achieve that goal. I would even dare say, that I could have conceivably caught up with work much faster, if certain individuals hadn't been spitefully trying to make it that much harder to do, throwing their wrenches at me every chance they get for the last year. This is truly a case of living and let live. It really has to be. If folks would just let me do my job, instead of trashing me every chance they get, things would go a lot smoother. And a lot faster. I know it's hard to wait. I do. But we're all adults. We all know that life can kick us from one direction after the next. Private vendors are no different. Have a little human compassion. One day you might need it from someone else.
If it hasn't been said enough already over the years, I've served the community as a whole for a LONG time. Likely even the oldest now. And I've always completed my work. For everyone. No matter the circumstances. Albeit slower when life throws curveballs, and kicks in the gut. Some people throw their hands up and walk away. Think about that for a second? Have I? Absolutely not. Just because a handful of people are upset they haven't receive a reply to an email, doesn't mean I'm MIA. Remember, historically, the Internet has always been a place to see and hear all the 'bad'. Rarely do you ever see any of the good. For every one person that may be thinking they've had the screws put to them, there may be 10 more that received their orders and went on their merry way to work on them. Sadly, I rarely ever see anyone do 'FP' build threads here anymore. You ever wonder why that's the case these days? Because people have become frightened to show off their acquisitions. They've become frightened to show any support for the 'FP' label whatsoever. Because certain individuals 'here' have created a bitter, hostile environment for anything FP. That's not paranoia. It's fact. What is also fact, as long as I am fulfilling my order obligations, there are no laws being broken. I am filling orders regularly. And I have the records to prove it. Circumstantially slow, is NOT a crime.
Please, just cut it out. It's not a very adult approach, to very adult circumstances.
Furious, I've seen several comments from you up here regarding your order. I'd be happy to discuss this with you privately. Missing your messages was not on purpose.
Mark (Magoo), yours is a special case, that I would rather discuss in private as well. I did in fact make a mistake where you are concerned. And I do apologize.
Keegan, there are a few things I would like to discuss with you actually. And I'd be open to doing so if you want to message me.
But while I'm addressing this thread, iI'd like to specifically address your your comments.
The posted picture was most certainly "photoshopped". I haven't even tried to deny this in private. But the source picture, isn't the exact picture you posted. There were several pics taken at that time with variances in angles here and there. The visor blank area was indeed replaced with a visor from another pic (obviously) and there's nothing wrong with that for illustration. Transplanting of details isn't true. With the dent specifically. And I see what you're talking about. But the entire image was cleared of varying shadows. The dent was hard to do that with, without making it look strange. By removing the shadows you end up removing detail and softening things. Especially when reducing a super hi res image down to the composite quality that you're trying to compare to. It is what it is. But the real point here that you may not know, or even realize because it hasn't been discussed yet, is that the picture in question was never posted or publicized on any platform. It was never meant to be used that way. It was a mock up done a long time ago to illustrate the similarities in over all shape. To see where or what is lacking when comparing to a 'holy grail'. There's nothing to hide with this helmet. Plenty of people own them, and can see that the details are the same, in hand. No misrepresentation was ever intended, or forced on anyone like what you've (probably unknowingly) implied. There are a ton of images of this helmet, from varying sources, and it stands up to exactly what has been visually advertised.
Lastly, the FPH2 in general.
When I posted its intro several years ago, I said, you either like it or you don't. It's still there to read. It boggles me to this day how much war this thing causes. I've discussed its origins privately with many. And still won't, to this day, discuss that on an open forum. I have good reason for this. It's ridiculous how many opinions there are out there. Which is why I don't even address the futility usually. Take out of the equation, just for a moment, that it's anything at all whatsoever. Do you like the helmet and the way it looks? Do you not? That's great! You have an opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. People will have their varying opinions of anything that hits the market. It's healthy to have your own opinion. It's far more respectable than accepting the opinions of 'others' as gospel. Letting others influence you can make you look foolish if you're only parroting someone else's statements written elsewhere.
Again, it is what it is. People can compare this to that, and that to this until they turn blue. Think about what it is you're comparing. And what you're comparing to. The MF helmet? Seriously? Sure it's an awesome helmet with an awesome history. Has it not already been established that it was taken from a mold while at Don Post studios that was manhandled? Yes. For years. How can anyone compare anything to it, when it obviously has its own issues. There's isn't a single person that can say with absolute certainty that the dome shape is correct or incorrect, or that the flare is correct incorrect, ect, unless they've held said helmets to an original directly. I can make two of the very same helmet look notably different just from using too much fiberglass catalyst from one to the other. And sometimes there are variances between my castings. That's the nature of hand made. But it doesn't change the fact that the only people that are qualified to compare, or cast judgements, with regard to any helmet that has been discussed here, are those that have been privileged enough to handle the original helmets, or have spent time with them, or have molded them. To date, none of you in this thread, aside of Art, Gino, and even Keegan, have any claim to such privileges. The rest of you are comparing a 30 + year old distorted, mishandled castings of an original helmet, to photographs, and current available helmets.
Even the current helmets are something to tread with much caution. Those of you that have taken to praising the MR, specifically, any FP MR derivative (now made by Animefan or Asok) as being some sort of holy grail, or, still the best for this reason or that? Do you stop to think for a moment, that these helmets came from me? You don't think that I had a hand in altering, or modifying them to meet or exceed public expectation? You don't think that I'm foul able? At the end of the day, no matter what comes from me, there is always a level of artistic license that has been taken. Because to date, the only unadulterated casting of anything that exists, is whatever castings came from the EFX mold of the hero helmet. A single casting from that mold, is, and will always be the holy grail to what all others want to achieve. The MF's, the Stunts, the MR's, the GMH's, the FPH2's, are all tinkered products. Because no one, has been able to get an unadulterated helmet out the door. They've all required restoration, or correction. Or, or, or. It might be in one's better interest to stop wasting their time beating a dead horse and wait for the Licensed helmets to arrive. I'm fairly confident that there will be several people feeling quite foolish when that day comes. Hell maybe even myself included.
Something to think about.
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intwenothor
Well-Known Hunter
Maybe now this thread can be laid to rest & left in 2015?.....happy new year
Not for me. If I'm to be badmouthed I'd like right to respond.
intwenothor
Well-Known Hunter
Nothing more than inviting FP to edit his post as I did for him at his request.
Edit: Awaits.
Further edit: and he did; any quarrel I had in this thread or ancillary to it is over and gone. I leave this and my earlier beligerent post updated rather than changed. I've hardly covered myself in glory in this thread and that should stand for all to see. The flare aspects of the discussion which are interesting are being covered in another thread where hopefully we can continue.
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Keegan
Active Hunter
I know you were addressing everyone and not just me but I'm going to editorialize your comments that I have opinions about.
I'm not having a go at you personally Chris. There might be some sarcasm in my response but more sincerity than that I promise you.
Even though I have anger from the past towards you, and you towards me, I hope have been reasonable in bringing my concerns to light and also in my comments below.
It's gone too far? What exactly? Your concerned customers making honest statements about their experiences? I dont think you should have the power to shame them into silence with your above.You addressed their concerns further along in your post and that's either good enough for them or not. You cannot censure how they feel about it or try to shame others like them into silence as I have seen you and your friends do on a few occasions.
I would hope people treat you respectfully and are understanding to your circumstances. But several years is a long time to wait and people only have so much patience and understanding regardless of your situation.
The guy who started this thread wondered about "wait time" and although it has massively gotten off topic in a fun way, the people who talked about their wait time with you were addressing his original question and there are many others like them I have heard of.
You claim to have used a picture from the same shoot from a slightly different angle? Curious how the lighting matches 100% in areas that weren't cleaned up.
Click the .gif below
It is a pretty smooth transition but the beginning and end images are pretty different but not in an ugly way. After all the real ROTJ dent is slighting different from the ESB and shouldn't line up exactly anyway. The fact that your version does and has the same shadows is suspect to me.
The shadow is lighter on the FPH2 but is the same between the EFX and the FPH2 image .
By comparison, your FPH2 unaltered dent image is very different from the EFX which is what I would expect from a ROTJ vs ESB dent anyway....
This is by far the most sensible thing I have ever read on TDH.
When fan castings and real helmets are compared it is very enlightening. They were sitting right next to each other. No politics, no opinions, just truth.
By the nature of NDA's I am truly sorry that I cant see those ever going public. Every artists dream is to see their work compared to their muse and for better or worse I wish we could grant that.
How did they compare? It's sort of pointless for me to try and explain what everyone should already know. Below is quoted the second most sensible thing I have ever read here and it is an excellent response.
I'm not having a go at you personally Chris. There might be some sarcasm in my response but more sincerity than that I promise you.
Even though I have anger from the past towards you, and you towards me, I hope have been reasonable in bringing my concerns to light and also in my comments below.
It's gone too far? What exactly? Your concerned customers making honest statements about their experiences? I dont think you should have the power to shame them into silence with your above.You addressed their concerns further along in your post and that's either good enough for them or not. You cannot censure how they feel about it or try to shame others like them into silence as I have seen you and your friends do on a few occasions.
I would hope people treat you respectfully and are understanding to your circumstances. But several years is a long time to wait and people only have so much patience and understanding regardless of your situation.
The guy who started this thread wondered about "wait time" and although it has massively gotten off topic in a fun way, the people who talked about their wait time with you were addressing his original question and there are many others like them I have heard of.
If you searched the forums more you would see several outstanding FPH2 builds near the top. YOU chose not to be more active here. Nobody forced you out. If you feel the environment is hostile towards your products or that people have "become frightened" and dont show support for you because of some top-down policy is some conspiracy theory level bull****. Just because a few prominent members here dont like you or the way you do business doesn't mean they have the time to worry about how many helmets you sell.
Hey man you're the one who freaked out and blocked my emails and phonecalls a few years ago. I've got no desire to talk to you but I haven't blocked you from talking to me....
I believe the source of the photoshopped version is the exact same picture of the FPH2 that Rubio95 posted in his thread. I cant line every area up since I believe some things were warped in photoshop but all the shadows and highlights down to very small things match.
You claim to have used a picture from the same shoot from a slightly different angle? Curious how the lighting matches 100% in areas that weren't cleaned up.
Click the .gif below
I know, and I already said I thought there was nothing wrong with that in my former post.
Below is a .gif that shows why I said that. The EFX dent image looks to have been overlayed with transparency onto the altered FPH2 image and lightened, cleaned up etc.
It is a pretty smooth transition but the beginning and end images are pretty different but not in an ugly way. After all the real ROTJ dent is slighting different from the ESB and shouldn't line up exactly anyway. The fact that your version does and has the same shadows is suspect to me.
The shadow is lighter on the FPH2 but is the same between the EFX and the FPH2 image .
By comparison, your FPH2 unaltered dent image is very different from the EFX which is what I would expect from a ROTJ vs ESB dent anyway....
Quoted for truth
This is by far the most sensible thing I have ever read on TDH.
When fan castings and real helmets are compared it is very enlightening. They were sitting right next to each other. No politics, no opinions, just truth.
By the nature of NDA's I am truly sorry that I cant see those ever going public. Every artists dream is to see their work compared to their muse and for better or worse I wish we could grant that.
How did they compare? It's sort of pointless for me to try and explain what everyone should already know. Below is quoted the second most sensible thing I have ever read here and it is an excellent response.
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fettpride
Well-Known Hunter
Keegan,
Lets not insult the intelligence of the community here. You 'are' having a go at me personally.
You've been trying to bait me for a couple of years now. The fact is, I do see the forums.
Practically daily. And there's always someone willing to point me in a particular direction when
someone feels that I may be getting a raw deal. I've chosen to ignore your many attempts. And
for good reason. Since you feel the need to air 'our' dirty laundry, which is also an attempt to bait
me further, and make me look bad, I'll only say this. My blocking you from communications, was a
direct result of my warning you to stop sending me the kind of emails and msgs you were sending me.
Beyond this, it's no ones business but ours.
With regard to your pics and composites. Really man, I've already said my peace here. That pic was never
intended to be used in public platform. It was a composite made to illustrate the similarities in overall shape,
to see where or what was lacking. It's been shared with several people. The newer FPH2 ESB dent actually does look
that way. It was in the same file in another layer. Using transparency is what you do when your comparing. As many times
as it was saved, maybe the layers got mixed up. Hell I really don't know. Or even remember. Nor, do I really care. It was an exercise
in what we've always done. Comparing for fun. Had I posted this on my Facebook, or my website, and used it as a
sales tool, I would call dirty pool, too. That's what I get for sharing anything. When people like you are always on
heightened alert to jump and try to make a fool of someone. This is a case where a member shared it accidentally
not knowing it wasn't for public consumption. Sent along with a number of other images, including several that showed
the helmet during it's molding process (which are absolutely not for public consumption). The dent pictured in Rubio95's review thread,
is the same as any other FPH2 ROTJ that have been publicized by anyone else who owns them. And the very same as what's pictured in
any picture I have publicly released. Meaning, what made the final cut. This is a moot argument, and now an excersise in futility.
I'd address some of your other comments, but it's only going to give you ammunition to vilify me further.
Lets not insult the intelligence of the community here. You 'are' having a go at me personally.
You've been trying to bait me for a couple of years now. The fact is, I do see the forums.
Practically daily. And there's always someone willing to point me in a particular direction when
someone feels that I may be getting a raw deal. I've chosen to ignore your many attempts. And
for good reason. Since you feel the need to air 'our' dirty laundry, which is also an attempt to bait
me further, and make me look bad, I'll only say this. My blocking you from communications, was a
direct result of my warning you to stop sending me the kind of emails and msgs you were sending me.
Beyond this, it's no ones business but ours.
With regard to your pics and composites. Really man, I've already said my peace here. That pic was never
intended to be used in public platform. It was a composite made to illustrate the similarities in overall shape,
to see where or what was lacking. It's been shared with several people. The newer FPH2 ESB dent actually does look
that way. It was in the same file in another layer. Using transparency is what you do when your comparing. As many times
as it was saved, maybe the layers got mixed up. Hell I really don't know. Or even remember. Nor, do I really care. It was an exercise
in what we've always done. Comparing for fun. Had I posted this on my Facebook, or my website, and used it as a
sales tool, I would call dirty pool, too. That's what I get for sharing anything. When people like you are always on
heightened alert to jump and try to make a fool of someone. This is a case where a member shared it accidentally
not knowing it wasn't for public consumption. Sent along with a number of other images, including several that showed
the helmet during it's molding process (which are absolutely not for public consumption). The dent pictured in Rubio95's review thread,
is the same as any other FPH2 ROTJ that have been publicized by anyone else who owns them. And the very same as what's pictured in
any picture I have publicly released. Meaning, what made the final cut. This is a moot argument, and now an excersise in futility.
I'd address some of your other comments, but it's only going to give you ammunition to vilify me further.
Keegan
Active Hunter
I am not insulting the community at all. Why would you say that? And I certainly am not going after you personally either. I haven't been airing nearly as much "dirty laundry" as you seem to think but it would certainly not help your image if I did.
If I wanted your downfall so much why do you think I haven't started the "Lets all crap on FP" thread?
A raw deal like what? Like me not hiding the fact that I dont like you or the way you do business and will not recommend you to anyone? Or the fact that I try to inform people about your products including their shortcomings? I sing your praises when appropriate and you know that. You just never seem to give me credit for it. For some reason, many people hold you as some sacred establishment that is beyond critique or criticism. I dont. But I try to be fair I really do. I still tell people I think some of your stuff is the best they can currently get. I just tell them I personally cant advise that they go that route because of my personal feelings to you.
Dude. Seriously? I really mean it. You can call me or email me if you feel the need. I wont be thrilled about it but you were the one who just posted like you wanted to talk to me. Its just got to come from you since you've blocked me. Get it?
As for me sending me "the kinds of emails and msgs I was sending" Feel free to post any from the event in question. You make it sound like I was sending you dick pics or something.
I have nothing to hide. I lost my temper due to you freaking out at me about something I had no knowledge of and still do not understand. It destroyed our friendship and left me angry and confused. So if I said "forget you" a few times I will not apologize for it until you apologize for your non specific accusations of wrongdoing.
I agree. Thank you for admitting your comparison image is compromised. No need to me to try to burn you at the stake for that man. It happens.
You have made a bad habit of playing the victim when I am genuinely working towards a different take away for you. I actually went out of my way and tried to temper my previous response many, many times before posting.
intwenothor
Well-Known Hunter
At the risk of being boring is there any chance we could return to the flare conversation. I've my share of umbridge in this thread too as do the two of you but the overall converation on the flare thing was better.
fettpride
Well-Known Hunter
Keegan,
I apologize for that statement. I was only trying to illustrate that I felt I had a reason to discontinue communicating with you without getting too specific. I can see how that might come across. For the record, no dick pics guys lol
In that same vein, you're absolutely right about several things here (with regard to you and I). It's something we really should talk about. It's been a long time. And really, time does make you look at things differently. If you're willing to give a little, I'm willing give back.
Andy (Intwenothor), I've reviewed your PM, and will be hitting you back shortly. Thank you for your understanding and consideration.
Having said that, I will be editing my posts in the spirit of de-escalating an unpleasant situation, so that the topic can be restored to a more pleasant one. I would appreciate the same courtesy where applicable.
My apologies to the membership if I offended anyone. It is my wish, that we can all bring in a pleasant New Year.
Chris
I apologize for that statement. I was only trying to illustrate that I felt I had a reason to discontinue communicating with you without getting too specific. I can see how that might come across. For the record, no dick pics guys lol
In that same vein, you're absolutely right about several things here (with regard to you and I). It's something we really should talk about. It's been a long time. And really, time does make you look at things differently. If you're willing to give a little, I'm willing give back.
Andy (Intwenothor), I've reviewed your PM, and will be hitting you back shortly. Thank you for your understanding and consideration.
Having said that, I will be editing my posts in the spirit of de-escalating an unpleasant situation, so that the topic can be restored to a more pleasant one. I would appreciate the same courtesy where applicable.
My apologies to the membership if I offended anyone. It is my wish, that we can all bring in a pleasant New Year.
Chris
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Keegan
Active Hunter
Will you do the honors of a new discussion thread?
fettpride
Well-Known Hunter
If that is what you prefer. I'll discuss the other posts with Andy.
Furious, I'll be there shortly.
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Chris,
Like I've discussed with you privately it's a privilege to have you in the community still! Life happens and I feel you've been great with communication with me personally with the delays, person issues, etc. I appreciate the work that you do and it's worth it in the end.
I think people by and large in the community need to be more realistic regarding wait times. I've personally been building my Fett for almost 2 years now. I've commissioned it all out and between delays in armor, softgood and painting things happen. Clothears, Chris at Fett Pride and Ponte have been great with communication. People need to relax.
Happy New Years though!
Like I've discussed with you privately it's a privilege to have you in the community still! Life happens and I feel you've been great with communication with me personally with the delays, person issues, etc. I appreciate the work that you do and it's worth it in the end.
I think people by and large in the community need to be more realistic regarding wait times. I've personally been building my Fett for almost 2 years now. I've commissioned it all out and between delays in armor, softgood and painting things happen. Clothears, Chris at Fett Pride and Ponte have been great with communication. People need to relax.
Happy New Years though!
