Sgt Fang Mystery Helmet History Thread

I love sarge's helmets. but the triangles on the forehead are different, the cheeks are different and if it were cast from the original the back where the "keyholes" are would go striaght up and angle outward in the last couple inches. Now maybe he did make these changes. Maybe before he found out what he was working on was an actual cast of the helmet, as stated earlier I wish no offense on this matter but would like an explanation of why these are different if it was infact cast of the original.
 
ZR,

If you go back far enough, you can trace the Mystery Helmet back to the Preproduction 2 helmet. However, it appears that either while the casting was at Don Post studios or in the hands of an other artist, it underwent "restoration" and "improvement," and some size was lost and many features were altered to correct the asymmetry of the original helmets, making the helmet a shadow of its former self.

That is why the dome, bands behind the ears, the ears, the corners of the cheek, the keyslots, ect... are incorrect.
 
Well my opinion is that if you didnt make it and bought it or "found" it and make a mold its recasting..plain and simple....
And to freak out when someone else does the same thing you did is insane...
I was making helmets a year or 2 before MS showed up on the fett scene...no offense to him but why wasnt I grandfathered in?
Now MS had done extensive re-work to the mystery bucket and his McQuarrie fett he was working on...now if someone copies that then its a different situation....
Most of the builders I talk with feel if you get something and modify it so much the original piece is no longer or very little of it exists in the current sculpt that is acceptable because then you can technically call it your own.
I use existing helmet parts all the time when i build helmets..but to buy/get something and make a mold and then call it your own just because your unsure of its origin doesnt make it yours....
Anyway my 2 cents.....
 
Tyler, It would seem I owe you a huge apology! How old is that pic of the "Lava Helmet"? That looks IDENTICAL to how I remember the MH pattern looking when I first pulled it out of the box years ago- seam down the middle, warped ears, crappy glass work and all. Does anyone know where it is now? 'Cause I think it may be sitting about 12 feet away from me with a pound or more of Bondo in it. 8)

Is there any more concrete info on the Lava helmet and it's history?

Thanks!

-Sarge

Well my opinion is that if you didnt make it and bought it or "found" it and make a mold its recasting..plain and simple....
And to freak out when someone else does the same thing you did is insane...
I was making helmets a year or 2 before MS showed up on the fett scene...no offense to him but why wasnt I grandfathered in?
Now MS had done extensive re-work to the mystery bucket and his McQuarrie fett he was working on...now if someone copies that then its a different situation....
Most of the builders I talk with feel if you get something and modify it so much the original piece is no longer or very little of it exists in the current sculpt that is acceptable because then you can technically call it your own.
I use existing helmet parts all the time when i build helmets..but to buy/get something and make a mold and then call it your own just because your unsure of its origin doesnt make it yours....
Anyway my 2 cents.....


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This seems to be the case to me that there was extensive modification based on what's been said here by Sgt Fang. I'm still fairly new to this though I've been working on my fett on and off since '99, and don't have the knowledge enough to cast something let alone recast something so my opinion may not count for much.

BTW can you shoot me a PM SgtFang with pricing and availability?
 
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