My Altmann\'s bucket...

funnily enough I got my pre-license Altman about then too. I always thought it was better than the licensed ones...It's certainly a bit bigger and more "flared".
Having said that though, I still think that Mason has every right to be as "proud as punch" with the one that he's got.
 
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think I'd rather keep it original...
than take your suggestions Ozfettmaker...:eek:

I wasn't planning on making a fortune out of it...
It's a keeper and a piece of lucasfilm licensed history.:)

Like I said...there plenty of other buckets to tamper with...

I have only ever seen 1 blurry small picture of this helmet on the "starwarshelmets" website and therefore posted it to show a better view of it...

thank you for your opinion Ozfettmaker,...
although, it has been totally disregarded...8)

Mason.
Ps: you own one?....if you dont like it...send it to me...then I would do a repaint job...on the spare one..LOL!
 
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now is this an in your face post or what, is this the guy who pulled molds from the altmanns fett? then sold it on ebay? if you didnt like the fett helmet then why buy it???"steve" never got "caught" by LFL lawyers either, sounds like a personal beatup here.I know a local australian fan club did, trying to rip off "steves' helmets! as for the altmanns fett, I HAVE THE INSIDE EDGE HERE, altmanns sent a "fett" for approval,while they thought it was ok it wasnt close SO LFL said they would send over a "FETT" for altmanns to copy, the colors, the metal parts,the detailing, etc, once this was done the approval was done in two weeks, the total process was 9 months,from start to finish, so to those who attack the ones who do the hard work to bring something to the "public" .WALK A MILE IN MY SHOES AND NEVER..........NEVER... attack the opposition
 
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Hi,

Pillbury, welcome to the board. I agree there is no reason to attack Steve personally. However, his helmet does come under harsh scrutiny because of the nature of the board: seeking accuracy in all things Boba Fett.

While it is very clear that Don Post had access to real helmet while making the Deluxe Fett helmet, i.e. the dent is cast from an original, there are no parts on the Altmann's helmet that show that Steve had access to an original.

Is there any proof that LFL sent Steve an original helmet? If Steve did receive a real helmet from LFL, I am almost certain he would have photographed it. Have you seen any pictures of they original helmet they sent him? I would love to see the pictures.

I also would have expected the colors to be more accurate if Steve did have access to a real helmet. I've been around the Fett scene for awhile, and I've known about Steve's work for quite some time, but this is the first time I've heard that LFL sent him a real helmet. Without any proof, I'm skeptical of the claim.
 
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Also pillbury, an introduction would be nice. You show up like an authority figure, but nobody knows who you are. Welcome to TDH, let's hear a little about who you are. :)
 
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I thought the "rant" posted in response to my "look at my altmanns bucket" thread was at the time...
completely un-called for...
I have no problem hearing any thoughts on the subject by anyone...
new or old member...
Soooooooooooooooo.....
If its ok for the goose (to attack with allegations)...
then its ok for the gander (to defend allegations)
isn't it?

Hell it only supposed to be a thread to show people what the altmanns boba looks like...
Nothing more than that...

Not a...

QUOTE" Lemme say lads and lasses,if I sent my clients a lid that looked like the 'bloody ugly altmann's' paint job,I'd probably get beaten up.........
I'd bloody well deserve it,too,if I sold a lid that looked like that! " UN-QUOTE.

in my eyes, this is not why people come here and completely against what I thought this forum/website was intented to be about.
To be honest, his post offended me...

Just my opinion on the post "I" started...

Mason...
 
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tylerdurden wrote:

However, his helmet does come under harsh scrutiny because of the nature of the board: seeking accuracy in all things Boba Fett.

Sorry TD but I have to take a degree of exception to this statement. I was not aware of this being the official or even unofficial nature of this board. After all, accuracy can be measured in terms of cost.

Research time to achieve "accuracy" costs.
Achieving the level of skill to create the MSH for example costs.
Paying someone to make props for you costs.

In the end, not everyone on this board has the currency required to achieve the ever elusive accuracy. We do our best with the resources we have - for some that means damn near screen accuracy but for others it simply means creating or collecting items which we love as they represent the things we love about Fett and the Mandalorians. IMHO, this board is about far more than accuracy. This board is a forum for Fett and Zam fans worldwide whether they have the time, skill, cash or even the inclination to achieve screen accuracy.

I don't want to come accross as overly critical of your particular passion for accuracy but simply ask that you contemplate if that is the shared understanding of the nature of this board. If this "nature" is included in a statement by TDH hiomself or some other official statement then please accept my humble apology.
 
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I'm gonna have side with TD on this one. Accuracy is the official purpose of this board. Accuracy is why we go to the ends of the earth to find that Borden device which was used as the "beauty mark" on the Fett helmet. Accuracy is why we have the threads broken down in different sections. It's also why we have the Boba reference CD. Whereas you are right when you say not everyone has the funds to create a "screen accurate" suit, in the end, the purpose of the board is showcase the Fett suit and exactly how it was made and what was used to make it. Everyone should be proud of the suits they have made, no question there. But here, accuracy *is* measured on the screen suit.
Sorry to digress and get off track of this thread.

Wes
 
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I agree this forum is about making fan made helmets/costumes as accurate as possible...
sometimies expensively and sometimes in-expensively
but...
no amount of "screen accuracy striving"...
should condone talk of violence ...
(quote:should be beaten up :un-quote)
for not meeting the standards of one member?...
thats just not sane behaviour for such a subject I think...

Am I wrong???

Maybe it was just posted in the wrong manner and prevoked a response from someone taking it the wrong way...

But does anyone else not think that the comment was a bit over the top?

Mason...
 
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MJA,

Your quote is wrong. He said if he sold something with a crappy paint job, he'd probably get beaten up. He didn't say someone should be beaten up over it. It was a tounge-in-cheek comment. General consensus on the board is, the Altmann's Fett helmet is OK, but far from accurate. I don't think his comment was over the top.

Wes
 
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Jango_Wes wrote:

I'm gonna have side with TD on this one. Accuracy is the official purpose of this board.
Wes

Okay Wes, I appreciate your perspective but do not agree. Your reference to the "Borden Connector" is a great example - not everyone on this board gives a rip about whether thier helmets have authentic borden pcs in them. Just because those who seek accuracy above all else have done this quest does not show that the Board as a whole shares this passion.

I just looked through the Code of Conduct and there is nothing about accuracy being the official purpose. Unless of course you are implying that the accuracy guru's comprise the "Board" and the rest of us are just guests? I know that's not your heart on this but it's starting to come across that way.
 
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fair comment on it maybe being tounge-in-cheek Wes...
just sounded a bit over-the-top and rude to me...
enough said on the matter now i think...

Mason.
 
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Jodo_Kast wrote:

I just looked through the Code of Conduct and there is nothing about accuracy being the official purpose.

Jodo_Kast is correct. The purpose of this board is to provide ACCURATE information about the real costume and provide information regarding how to recreate the real costume as closely as possible. What each memeber decides to do with that information is up to him/her. As has been mentioned, in some aspects, accuracy can only be attained by copious amounts of time and/or money, things not everyone has. With that in mind, those who are striving for screen accuracy MUST be respectful of those who are more than happy with a relica that is not perfectly screen accurate. On the other hand, just because someone is willing to mortgage their home and children to attain the most screen accurate parts does not automatically make them "eltist"... crazy perhaps, but not elitist.


This is not a competition and the choice of one is not better than the choice of another. As I mentioned in the Sarlacc Pit, respect of EVERY member is the key.
 
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I think a number of comments by several of us, myself included, have been misconstrewn.

In my earlier post about the "nature of the board," I meant that many TDH members seek a high-level of accuracy, hence the intense scrutiny of Fett item.

I was not making any blanket statements regarding the official purpose or mission of the board, which is currently being discussed in the Sarlaac Pit.

Everyone is free to persue their own level of accuracy, but we should be respectful regardless of which path each member takes.
 
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That story about Altmann recieving a helmet from LFL goes completely against what he told me face to face a few years ago.
He maintained that he had to do a prototype of each helmet he made, send it to LFL for feedback, and then make any adjustments they suggested.
He then had to send the adjusted helmet to them etc, etc, etc until they were satisfied.

Seems to me that the guy can't get his story straight.
 
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darthbish, this what altmanns passed on to me , altmanns were sent helmets to take molds off, a fett was one, once altmanns had made a prototype from the molds TAKEN from the LFL helmet they then sent that one to LFL for aproval or modification,
altmann were sent are fett, scout, red guard. all the others were altmanns own scuplts which I was told went back to 1983 when the first was done/developed,the only reference that altmann had back then was videos of the three films and any stills that were available,
altmann also has the PANTONE colors for ALL the colors used on film productions, this included fett. altmanns get a book from LFL as part of the licence, this has all the PANTONE colors for each character, space ships,helmets, logos....blablabla.
steve was interested in the LFL story about the lawyers and paying up "fees"? any more on that? and to sum up, darthbish hasnt got his story right as steve tells evryone about receiving helmets from LFL to take molds off which he is ALLOWED to do as part of the licence.
If you know steve that well how come you dont know this to be true
 
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if I can arrange to steve altmann on line here, anyone interested in a "meeting" ?, he is approachable.
 
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pillbury wrote:

altmann also has the PANTONE colors for ALL the colors used on film productions, this included fett.

The Pantone Matching System is used in printing to keep spot colours consistent. How does that apply to Fett, or any other character, if you don't mind my asking?

Cheers!
TJ
 
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pillbury wrote:

if I can arrange to steve altmann on line here, anyone interested in a "meeting" ?, he is approachable.

I certainly would be interested! If he did get access to a real helmet and real colors, I'd be very interested in hearing what he has to say.
 
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