Boba Helmet 3D Model & Print WIP

Maw

New Hunter
Hey all, I'm new here so I'll introduce myself first!

My names Brett and I live in Cornwall UK.
I'm currently working on a full kylo costume and plan on joining the 501st. I have everything but the belt so far. As side projects I like to 3D print, specifically random star wars things.
But this is the first model I've made myself..
I started out just messing around in blender.. A few hours later the model I came up with looked pretty decent! So I've decided to see it through and make it as accurate as humanly possible.. For me atleast ^^

Here is my progress so far.. This is two evenings work (Please bare in mind I'm a complete newbie to 3D modelling)

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Any pointers/comments welcome!
Thanks :)
 
Thanks :D If you have some dead on side shots of the MSH I'd greatly appreciate it! Will work on the mandibles and cheeks tonight.

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Update,

Pushed mandibles forward a bit and shortened them slightly, still not happy with the way they sit so I will work on them tomorrow. Cheek area now correct. Next is sorting out the back :eek:

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Oh and I increased the flare. I printed a small scale version and wasn't happy with it. Should be good now!

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I have an MS1, but it's being painted right now, but as soon as I get it back I can take direct side on pics for ya if you want.
I don't know if I would increase the flare, though. There's a really long discussion over on MPPC, and it's been determined that the screen used helmet doesn't really have as much flare as we've all been thinking. The CTM (or Malone Fett) is probably the closest to what we have right now in terms of accuracy (along with the MR, believe it or not), with the exception of the coming EFX ESB, (and even that one is going to have SOME shrinkage too). This is all according to my research, but I'm just recently learning about all these helmets. If anyone sees what I wrote as being inaccurate, please correct me. I don't want to be passing along false information.
 
I know it's been talked about before but how is the MF (being a pp2 plug) accurate when it isn't screen used and looks nothing like the ESB hero?
 
I don't know. Maybe I misunderstood, but that was the impression I got from the thread. Like I stated, I'm still trying to learn all this helmet stuff. I've only recently started reading up on it and it's pretty in depth. Hence the last part of my post.
 
I know it's been talked about before but how is the MF (being a pp2 plug) accurate when it isn't screen used and looks nothing like the ESB hero?

Really in that the six production helmets are all believed to come from the same mould which gives them all the same overall look. The ESB looks different for a number of reasons including the hard life it's had and that it is laid in fibreglass cloth and not chopped strand matt which is why it's so thin (which is, in turn, why it's had such a hard life).

I think when people speak of the MF they're really referring to the fact that it is a helmet with a known lineage to a production helmet although to say it looks nothing like the ESB hero is a stretch. It looks nothing like a stormtrooper helmet but it clearly has much in common with the ESB hero whilst there are clearly some differences. Visor placement accounts for a lot of that in my opinion as does the dent which is a dead giveaway of the PP2 line from Mystery to GMH.


I don't know. Maybe I misunderstood, but that was the impression I got from the thread. Like I stated, I'm still trying to learn all this helmet stuff. I've only recently started reading up on it and it's pretty in depth. Hence the last part of my post.

I would agree that the MR is still the best out there in general circulation and by some considerable way. The biggest problem with that thing is the dent. It and the PP2 buck, derived from different production helmets, are amazingly similar and the available evidence suggests that this is also true of the ESB, ROTJ, and the other production helmets; it's the same basic helmet. We also had a flare discussion here in a thread I started as 'This is flare' or something.

The CTM and MF are themselves different. The CTM is simply a straight up unaltered cast of the PP2 buck and whilst you can make something great from it you have to make choices to overcome the limitations of the buck otherwise you're really looking simply at a copy of a really cool artifact. Even if you're prepared to make those choices there is a lot of work to be done. The MF is the product of the choices made by Lee Malone to overcome the limitations of the buck and is a cool helmet. As great as I consider the MR line to be I'd take a swap for a MF in a heartbeart as I am sure most would. As there are only 10 MFs out there that's unlikely and as the prices that Art and Gino sold their's for were high i doubt I'll be buying one anytime soon either. The MF actually has more flare than the CTM or PP2 buck. Buck limitations aside the real problem of the MF and CTM will be price and availability.
 
And now I know that my knowledge of bobas buckets is very little ha! Obviously mine isn't going to come close to these buckets as I don't have one to physically see, I'm purely going off multiple screen grabs of boba, hence why I printed a small scale version of mine to see all the angles first hand v the pics. the flare just wasn't the same even though I thoroughly followed the paths of a central pic of the MSH. but as a friend looked over it he told me I've got to take into account the perspective, trying to follow a 2d pic of a 3d object isn't going to quite look the same. Anyway, I'll keep altering and printing small scale versions until I'm happy with it and it's as damn close as I can get it. Cheers guys, I'll keep you updated :D

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An old post of Gino's at the RPF suggests that Natty based his sculpt of the MSH on a copy of a Don Post Deluxe and built up around it which would mean that the MSH is derived from the PP2 as the ultimate source. The PP2 line seems to account for so many helmets in fandom.

Personally I feel that trying to introduce extra flare is generally a mistake and that the sides are only very slightly away from parallel on all the helmets; the aforementioned visor placement and therefore mandible position creating or reducing that perception of flare.
 
There's sooooo much to this, Maw.

Thanks for chiming in, Andy. Not to derail the post too much (although I feel this is great info, especially for someone trying to sculpt a helmet for the first time), what's the difference between the MSH-1 and the MSH-2? What did he correct on the 2? (I have the 1 and those mandibles stick out so far, it bugs the cr@p out of me lol. Although it looks great from the front.)

And thanks for clearing that up between the CTM and the MF. I thought they were exactly the same helmet...apparently not.
 
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There's sooooo much to this, Maw.

Thanks for chiming in, Andy. Not to derail the post too much (although I feel this is great info, especially for someone trying to sculpt a helmet for the first time), what's the difference between the MSH-1 and the MSH-2? What did he correct on the 2? (I have the 1 and those mandibles stick out so far, it bugs the cr@p out of me lol. Although it looks great from the front.)

And thanks for clearing that up between the CTM and the MF. I thought they were exactly the same helmet...apparently not.


I've never actually seen any of the MSH line in the flesh but I believe the most noticable difference was that the MSH2 was even bigger than the MSH(1). Here are some side by sides in an old thread. I have to say that the paintwork on the Mystery looks awesome. I seem to recall reading that the original FPH was related to one of these two helmets which, if true, might mean that the FPH also had its genesis in the PP2 (via the Don Post Deluxe).

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f23/msh-1-msh-2-ms1-comparison-pics-18804/

The MF are a run of 10 helmets. The master and the mould were destroyed after the run so that's it; there are no more (there are pictures out there of the master being blasted with shotgun and pistol). The completed Singelseat ROTJ helmet is probably one of the best looking Fett replicas I've seen pictures of; he nailed it. However clearly some other versions of the buck escaped from that MF run hence the early PP2 casts owned by Bobamaker and formerly by FP. It seems others may also be in existence. The CTM were made from a brand new mould in 2015 and are no shrink unaltered copies of the buck (minus the skirt). If I understand it correctly the CTM would be the equivalent of what Lee Malone would have altered in order to create his master for the MF run.

Sorry Maw, your project is very cool.
 
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I've adjusted the cheek area again, giving it more depth (but now realising it's too high up so I'll push it down later.. also messed around with other parts, doesn't look like much but the front is getting there.. Still need to bring out the top of the mandibles to become level with top of the T visor.

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And here someone on facebook lined up my bucket on top of bobas, for the lols :D

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Have a good weekend guys,
more soon!..
 
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Been working on the bucket where I could this weekend (Currently midway through moving house).. Got to a point and thought I'd print another small scale test. And I'm super stoked how it came out!
Please ignore the print quality and the support still stuck to it, it's so thin and frail I couldn't remove else it would break.
Oh and I removed the dome for the print.
I think I'm ready to work on the rear half now :)

(New version is without dome Vs one of the early versions)

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I know it doesn't look like much progress but I couldn't help but carry on tweaking the face. FPH2 reference images are a godsend here.

Still trying to get the curve right on the cheek plate area. Anyway it's now got the exact same flare as the FPH2 and mandibles are much better (still have to do the wavy brow and uneven mandibles once I'm finished with the mirror modifier) but, here it is so far compared to the FPH2..

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I think you'd be better off using the MR or GMH as a basis if you're following lines of another helmet as they both have a known lineage to production helmets.
 
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