Rubber Knees v1
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Stormrider
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UPDATE:
First, and foremost I work ont his project 2-4 hours every day
Its proving difficult at best
So, that being said, i created a suspension mold for the left knee. They pull perfectly in resin, but in rubber, not so much.
I think theres a problem with the rubber I bought. Because I can tear it by hand. And theres NO WAY I should be able to. So ill be visiting alumilite today. Ive decided to do the mold over, as a 2 piece compression mold, instead of a 1 piece suspension compression mold.
The parts are just way too hard to get out. So, that being said, ill mount the knee today and build the box.
I need to contact chris today also, and see about the other dented knee. As of now, I only have one dented and one un-dented.
I need to drag out the final knee until later this week as the alum knee darts im going to fashion the knee darts off of are not here yet.
Rest assured ill keep everyone informed. Im as excited about these as you are.
On a side note, I used a high impact flexible resin for the knee I poured out of resin, and it is extremely tough. im not sure I could break it with my hands. Im still debating using it for some knees.
First, and foremost I work ont his project 2-4 hours every day
Its proving difficult at bestSo, that being said, i created a suspension mold for the left knee. They pull perfectly in resin, but in rubber, not so much.
I think theres a problem with the rubber I bought. Because I can tear it by hand. And theres NO WAY I should be able to. So ill be visiting alumilite today. Ive decided to do the mold over, as a 2 piece compression mold, instead of a 1 piece suspension compression mold.
The parts are just way too hard to get out. So, that being said, ill mount the knee today and build the box.
I need to contact chris today also, and see about the other dented knee. As of now, I only have one dented and one un-dented.
I need to drag out the final knee until later this week as the alum knee darts im going to fashion the knee darts off of are not here yet.
Rest assured ill keep everyone informed. Im as excited about these as you are.
On a side note, I used a high impact flexible resin for the knee I poured out of resin, and it is extremely tough. im not sure I could break it with my hands. Im still debating using it for some knees.
you just need the extra dent, which could be added after the run of ESB to make the ROTJ.
If I remember correct I added all the dents to my FP v3 knees.
so its just a matter of making the molds for esb which you would wanna use the knees with the fewer number of dents to do first then could make the extra dent and make another mold?
I am pretty sure I read in other threads that the plan is for both.
Stormrider
Well-Known Hunter
Gee2 provided me with a nice set of aluminum darts. Ill be offering a set of such darts with the knees, for an added few dollars (10 or less) to the price tag if they are needed.
These darts are nicely machined, and if anyone is needing darts I wouldnt hesitate to contact Gee2.
He has given me permission to use them as a model for my mold. So the knee recesses will be done to fit his darts. (circumfrence wise) pics tomorrow.
These darts are nicely machined, and if anyone is needing darts I wouldnt hesitate to contact Gee2.
He has given me permission to use them as a model for my mold. So the knee recesses will be done to fit his darts. (circumfrence wise) pics tomorrow.
RangerChet
Jr Hunter
I saw your other post with regard to projects and I'm still in for a set. All the way to the end, brother (and I'd still like darts with it).
slave1pilot
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GCNgamer128
Sr Hunter
Depending on price, I'm definitely interested
Stormrider
Well-Known Hunter
Ill be making a cast of the alum darts, either high impact resin, or rubber, with permission of course. And then if someone wants the same darts, that fit the set, in alum you can get them from gee2.
The issue at the moment is if I have him create a 'protruding' 'bolt like' part at the back end of it, to insert further into the knee, to add stability and something to glue to, even though it is unseen, is this too far from 'acurate'.
The issue at the moment is if I have him create a 'protruding' 'bolt like' part at the back end of it, to insert further into the knee, to add stability and something to glue to, even though it is unseen, is this too far from 'acurate'.
Stormrider
Well-Known Hunter
There has been many and long discussions aboutr 'rotj' vs 'esb' dents.
The gurus are split here on the dents. FP, if I understood him right assures me that the dents are acurate for both movies. Now, this is a hot topic for debate. Some say they are the same knees, repaired. Some say they are the same knees, painted different. Some others say they are 'different' knees.
I tend to stay away from these sorts of arguments, and I am staying with chris (FP's) comment to me. Which is 'stay out of these arguments, these knees are acurate
'Now, maybe if spidey or art could chime in, that would help, unless chris frees himself up to check this thread.
And thank you all for the interest. Gonna be a big progress weekend im hoping.
GCNgamer128
Sr Hunter
The dents are the same for both movies. The only "different" knees, are in the SE when Pre-Pro knees were used. With the Pre-Pro Fett, all of the dents are different everywhere on the armour.
Stormrider
Well-Known Hunter
Thanks GCNGamer128, much appreciated for the clarification.
then there ya go. I spend too much time looking at SE pictures LOL
and I am extra interested on that note then lol
Stormrider
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I spent all afternoon with chris (FP). We went over the molds, the rubber, the prototype I pulled, etc. It all looks good. I got a nice pull of his vacc'd knees and ill be starting them as soon as im done typing this.
Now, heres where you all get to chime in The rubber I picked is just about perfect for this project. Now, if I degass it, it will be a lot more pure. But degassing takes time, and costs money. A degass machine is about 500 bucks by the time you have bought the tank, and the cylinder. I could also pressurise it, but that doesnt work well for parts like this, because while it will have the same effect, it would end up lowering the volume, and we would get a 'empty spot' in the mold.
So, the question is, pass on that 10 dollars a pair to you all, or go without the degassing. I will be working all weekend on the knees and pour a pair without degasing of course, but it is a question we all have to ask.
Any and all thoughts are welcome. I have never degassed any of my rubbers/resins/silicones but this information came straight from alumilites best rubber guy
At any rate. Ill be on and off as I work on these this weekend.
Ciao
Mason
Now, heres where you all get to chime in
The rubber I picked is just about perfect for this project. Now, if I degass it, it will be a lot more pure. But degassing takes time, and costs money. A degass machine is about 500 bucks by the time you have bought the tank, and the cylinder. I could also pressurise it, but that doesnt work well for parts like this, because while it will have the same effect, it would end up lowering the volume, and we would get a 'empty spot' in the mold.So, the question is, pass on that 10 dollars a pair to you all, or go without the degassing. I will be working all weekend on the knees and pour a pair without degasing of course, but it is a question we all have to ask.
Any and all thoughts are welcome. I have never degassed any of my rubbers/resins/silicones but this information came straight from alumilites best rubber guy
At any rate. Ill be on and off as I work on these this weekend.
Ciao
Mason
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