ROTJ Cape Information

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Ok, I hope I haven't misunderstood the question, but the triangular piece you are speaking of is not the correct attachment for the ROTJ cape. That is a hold-over from the 1st pre-pro's "cape-across-the-chest" style. It had basically a buckle system that allowed the cape to be snapped across the chest. The collar bolt was used in Jedi and Empire to secure the cape-- not the triangular buckle piece.
 
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Tyler, do you think that the later Pre-Prod version or ESB, the cape was really attached to a buckle system in the back, and no one can really tell for the lack of reference pics, specially from ESB? What do you think?

Robert
 
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Actually, the RotJ cape isn't attached via the collar studs, but to the back armor, possbily via a buckle-system. There just aren't any clear pictures of it in the movie, but this one should give you an idea of it's placement.

Skiff Scene
Boba_Fett_1067.jpg


You can see more on this topic here:
http://tdh.prop-planet.com/viewtopic.php?topic=491&forum=3
 
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BF, that's exactly what I was talking about and I agree with you. I knew that I've seen it somewhere else.

The reason I believe that the cape was attached at the MoM exhibit in the collar, cause the attachment got broke somehow during filming, while storing the props in the LFL archives or while assembling the props at the MoM, and they did it in the collar as a last resource.

But that's some question that will be answered by just someone who actually dealt before with either LFL, or the MoM personnel. We'll never know.

Robert
 
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Well, I be damned. I never noticed that before. I've always attached it under the collar bolts, for appearance's sake.

Back to the proverbial drawing board...
 
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Thanks for the info, links and pics, everyone. I'm impressed that you all figured out what I was talking about without my posting pics:) I'm kinda a fool with posting pics and links on the internet, even though I have done it before when not being lazy and in a hurry:)

I was afraid that there was not enough info on this:( It had been mentioned before without much in the way of photo resources. I have seen 3 pics of this triangular attachment before. None of them really tell everything that's to be known on the subject. The two MoM pictures show a damaged and rigged get up. I hope I haven't opened a can of worms with this question but I have faith that we are all up to the challenge of getting this right. I might just try and get the attachment as close as I can to the ROTJ pic and hope that I happen to get it correct. At least the placement and two bolts would be correct, even if I was just winging it.

Now that the pre-pro attachment has been mentioned, I had been thinking about adding some kind of removable set-up so I could use that attachment for a different look if I wanted to. It kinda reminds me of a Mexican or Southwestern gunfighter look when the cape is attached to both shoulders like that.

I look forward to us all cracking this case and I have full faith in the members on this site. I don't think any of these questions are totally unsolvable, but this may be pretty hard to get right. Thanks again for all the awesome help, it's good to see the gears in motion:)
 
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I disagree. And I'll pics shortly. :)

::edit:: I'll disagree, and Brak's will post pics! :lol:

I'll post the ESB pics, which also show a collar bolt attachment.
 
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I too disagree. Although in the pic, Boba Fettish posted, the cape obviously isn't attached at the collar bolt, there are a number of RotJ era pics that show it IS attached there. Also, there is no evidence on either the MoM or AoSW cape that there is some sort of buckle system aside from the broken clip mentioned by Tyler which came from the Pre-Pro cape.

Here is proof that the cape DOES attach to the collar bolt throughout RotJ:

I also submit to you that the photo Boba Fettish posted above is simply a continuity error. My proof? Check out this photo which immediately comes before the one Fettish posted. The collar is BROKEN and there is no cape at all. Looks like after the collar issues they simply crammed the cape down behind the backpack for the remained of the scene.
 
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AWESOME pics, thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll take a better look at those pics, the movie and some other pics so I can move from being 99.9% confident to 100% that it is on the bolt like you just showed. I think it looks pretty convincing that you are correct with the cape being attached to the bolt:)

I just wonder what the heck is up with the photo that shows that cape hooked up via the other attachment. Could that have been a scene with the double or the second set of armor? Aren't there some differences when they change the armor used in the ROTJ or something like that? I thought I had seen a post mentioning that in here somewhere. I'll have to give it a look.

I guess I'll just add the triangular piece since it was on the cape while serving no purpose. That would also allow me to add a removable hook of some sort to the other side of chest in case I wanted to have the poncho look.

Thanks for the pics, it looks as if we're gaining ground on the correct attachment.
 
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Which other photo with it attached to the triangular piece are you talking about? If it is Boba Fettish's pic, I don't think it is really attached at all. I think they just rigged it to stay on, as BB said.
 
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I guess I need to pop the snap off mine and start using the collar stud. :lol: Thanks for the compiling the pics, Brak's.
 
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It looks like the cape is connected to one of the shoulder bolts by a type of plate. What is this peice? Has it been identified.
 
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I bought some thick black cloth at walmart today for my custom mandalore and I was wondering how to give it that "beat up" look.
 
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I'm not sure, but it's about 1 to 1 1/2mm. thick and you can eisily see the stiching.
 
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I meant more like is it cotton, canvas, polyester, etc. Heavier fabrics, like the canvas that the RotJ cape is made out of, are pretty tough. I weathered mine by bunching it up in a small area, then sniping at it with scissors. The end result is a jagged, torn hole. You can pull at it a bit to make it bigger if needed. Washing it will cause the ends to fray thus making it look more worn.

Thinner fabric tend more to tear which results in more of a ripped look. Synthetics, like polyester, are the worst to weather as they tend not to tear that much. You could lay it on concrete and rub a rough rock or a wire brush over it a bunch of time to wear it, but it will tend not to fray when washed. It may actually just unravel a bit leaving long threads.
 
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I'm pretty sure its canvas, because I know it's not polyester,cotton, or wool.
 
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Okay,
Seeing as how I do NOT have a jet pack yet, and I'm going for a massive all out push to finish my custom Mandalorian (or at least get the costume to 75% completion) by Saturday morning with the local 'con being this weekend...

I have a question for when I DO get a jet pack:

Does the cape go OVER the jet pack (logical from a "hide what you've got" perspective) or UNDER the justpack (logical from a "it's fire proof and a good Mandalorian doesn't want his calves burned off" perspective). This is just something I've wondered because I'd swear I saw in one of the Jango oriented comics (which I have only the last 2 "Open Season") Jango wears the cape UNDER the jet pack... but this could just be a perception thing.

Any thoughts? Comments? Advice? Argument?
 
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Well, Boba Fett's cape is only attached to the left most bolt off his collar armor piece. It just hangs to the left of the jet pack. So as far as Boba goes, it doesn't go over the jet pack nor under it.

Take a look at these pics:
Pic1
Pic2
Pic3

Hope this helps a little! ;)
Bobo
 
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