Blaster Hasbro EE-3 blaster conversion

Can anyone point me in the right direction regarding obtaining a Sidewinder EE-3 either complete or in kitform. Do they have a website?

Cheers
Darrin
 
Also Fett 4 Real instead of coming into someone's thread and just knocking someone's work brother (which you tend to do)maybe you could say nice work, or great job...

What you did right there is one of the biggest problems in the customization/build progress parts of the prop community: being bashful of criticism for fear of hurting someone's feelings, and this is by no means any dig against you, at all. But this is why certain custom costumes are coming out of the woodwork made out of cheap kids-craft materials with Hot Rod flames painted on them, or paint jobs that are nowhere near screen accurate because their progress threads are plastered with nothing but "Wow, awesome!" and "OMG, fantastic!". It stifles improvement and innovation, and it shows. 5 year olds that come home with crazy doodles are supposed to hear "Wow, awesome job sweetie!"...not adults trying to recreate screen accurate costumes on a message board designed for the sole purpose of creating screen accurate costumes.

Think about it...when you have 3 pages of pat-on-the-backs, and no one is saying "Hey brother, you may want to rework the...", you think your suit/blaster/etc. is the bee's knees.

And there's no reason to be mean about it either. I'm not saying for ANYONE to march into a thread and tell someone "Wow, this stinks, throw that in the trash and try again buddy", but constructive, guided criticism is important.

Army, you also made the point that the "cream of the crop" blasters are expensive. Absolutely...and rightly so. You get what you pay for, period. There's no shame in waiting another couple months and not trooping with your Boba for a convention to save up and hone in your costume with quality parts that are accurate.

Syper said:
Last example, let's take the jetpack. What happens when the next few SW movies come out and Disney/Hasbro pushes out a toy jetpack that's just in time for Christmas? One - we will All, myself included go out and buy one. Two - sales for the members who do make great kits will fall. Three - we will soon see painted Hasbro jetpacks for sale on eBay as movie props. Four - MOW and others sales of JP's will fall even more and then they will just stop making their kits. We lose! The market it flooded with these Hasbro painted prop guns and it sucks.

Unfortunately Syper, I can't agree with you on this one brother. This is a hobby, a hobby where NONE of the replica vendors own the rights to. If Hasbro pumps out ****-poor packs, blasters, armor, etc...we can tell, and so can the detail-oriented members of this board. Sure, they'll take a few sales away from the greats on here, but that's the nature of the business...we shouldn't impede on the company's rights to profit just to be nice to the guys on this board that make the quality stuff. They'll be fine, I promise.
 
Unfortunately Syper, I can't agree with you on this one brother. This is a hobby, a hobby where NONE of the replica vendors own the rights to. If Hasbro pumps out ****-poor packs, blasters, armor, etc...we can tell, and so can the detail-oriented members of this board. Sure, they'll take a few sales away from the greats on here, but that's the nature of the business...we shouldn't impede on the company's rights to profit just to be nice to the guys on this board that make the quality stuff. They'll be fine, I promise.

Yeah Np Ponte, I do agree with your points and I have no issues with "company's rights to profit" the larger point I was making with my example is how it would suck to see a growing number of Fetts running around with 3/4 sized painted Hasbro JetPacks and calling it all good, just as we have seen with the toy-EE3 blaster. Sure sales for builders making quality packs would be impacted and we would see fewer and fewer runs but your right they would be ok. As we all know in the past if you wanted a quality EE3 blaster you had to either pony up the cash for a Master Replica, buy a pre-built EE3, buy a kit, or scratch build it using templates. All options very doable first two just requiring money if you had it but the other options forced the would be prop builder to actually “build it” or do the work themselves. Building an EE3 blaster for yourself is the best experience a prop builder can have, but starting with a pre-made EE3 toy imo is the very very easy (cheap / cheater) route to take that many new or inexperienced members are taking and are somehow hoping that we are going to like their toy conversion.

Sorry but if anyone is converting toys into movie props, that’s just sad IMO.

Last note I’ll leave you with – My custom Mando build

I’m planning on having two or three trophy light sabers on my belt and the thought of converting toy sabers has never even crossed my mind! It would be an easy starting point but that’s not the point of being a prop builder. I love that this hobby weeds out the lazy people or at least it should. If members want a low low budget build all good, I hope they have fun at their Halloween party but they should never think that painted toys are going to give members much love around here, ITS NOT.
 
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Mmm... I wonder if the 501st accepts Hasbro toy guns as prop blasters?

Blasters themselves aren't required for costume acceptance in the 501st for any costume. Reasoning is that other countries have different weapon laws than ours does, and so nobody even technically needs a blaster at all to join the 501st.
 
starting with a pre-made EE3 toy imo is the very very easy (cheap / cheater) route to take that many new or inexperienced members are taking and are somehow hoping that we are going to like their toy conversion.

Sorry but if anyone is converting toys into movie props, that’s just sad IMO.

I love that this hobby weeds out the lazy people or at least it should. If members want a low low budget build all good, I hope they have fun at their Halloween party but they should never think that painted toys are going to give members much love around here, ITS NOT.

What.

From my admittedly brief experience with TDH, I've come to the conclusion that this site and its members are some of the most welcoming, friendly bunch of costumers and prop builders I've ever come across online. They give praise where it's due and constructive criticism where it's needed and without any hint of elitism that tends to follow on some forums. The higher end Fetts don't judge those without the money or prop building experience to match their own level of accuracy, and I find that amazing.

So it's rather baffling to hear your thoughts on the matter or the thinly veiled scorn you're exhibiting for someone who may not have the funds or skill level to match your own blaster. You've raised legitimate points about the Hasbro products but I don't understand where the anger is coming from? All you seem to be doing is turning your nose up at Travsall's work in a condescending and demeaning manner, denying the hard work he's put into it and offering no constructive criticism as recompense, all the while accusing him and anyone who attempts a Hasbro conversion of being pathetic amateurs beneath you and your blaster kit. Please tell me I'm wrong, because that isn't in the spirit of TDH at all...
 
Good for you if you have the money to buy the best. Or the talent to build the best. Better for you if you make due in what you have.
In the past I made a modded hasbro larger and more scaled to my size, due to the cost, and trooping takes its toll on all costume items. Cheaper to repair..

I got negativity from that build and distanced myself from this forum for that reason. Great work on your build thanks for sharing. It has inspired me to update my hasbro to look more accurate. for that I thank you ..:)
 
Come on guys,think this is getting outa hand at the end of the day we all have are own opinions which we are entitled too....think the mods she close this thread :)
 
What.

From my admittedly brief experience with TDH, I've come to the conclusion that this site and its members are some of the most welcoming, friendly bunch of costumers and prop builders I've ever come across online. They give praise where it's due and constructive criticism where it's needed and without any hint of elitism that tends to follow on some forums. The higher end Fetts don't judge those without the money or prop building experience to match their own level of accuracy, and I find that amazing.

So it's rather baffling to hear your thoughts on the matter or the thinly veiled scorn

This is where I stopped reading, please understand that we have never met and you don’t really know me. People who own the Hasbro EE3 blasters may be upset with my opinions and I could understand why but my admitted disdain is for the toy gun itself so no one can take anything I say about said toy gun personally in any way in fact, only the toy gun should be offended. Lol


All you seem to be doing is turning your nose up at Travsall's work in a condescending and demeaning manner

Mmm…. yeah not true, please read my comments I made about this being the best conversion I have ever seen done on the Hasbro EE3

all the while accusing him and anyone who attempts a Hasbro conversion of being pathetic amateurs beneath you

Wow again hmmm… I never said any of this.

In the past I made a modded hasbro larger and more scaled to my size, due to the cost, and trooping takes its toll on all costume items. Cheaper to repair..

I get the cheaper to repair part, but no one should ever be in a hobby if cost is a major concern at every turn and every corner you come to.

Scuba diving, RC cars/plains, Sport Fishing, Boating, these are just a few of the hobbies I have had and loved over the years that are very expensive and I decided not to partake in any longer due to cost.

In the past I made a modded hasbro larger and more scaled to my size, due to the cost, I got negativity from that build and distanced myself from this forum for that reason.

This is a Boba Fett Costume Community where all skill levels and incomes are welcome. No matter if you buy Boba Fett props or make them yourself but this is by and large a prop building community so please try to understand where I’m coming from. When I think of building a prop EE3 Fett blaster step 1. does not include buying a toy EE3 blaster.

Bottom line - I’m getting heat from some TDH members that really want me to believe that a toy gun should be considered a legitimate SW Fett Movie Prop and imo they are not one in the same.
 
You don't need to explicitly state anything to infer meaning. I highlighted all the red flags in your post that suggested an underlying distaste for those who use the blaster. 'Sad' and 'cheaters' were two particularly harsh terms used which weren't directed at a toy blaster.

It's not my intent to antagonise you; I don't have any ill will against you.Like you said, this is a Boba Fett costume community. We're all here because we love the Fett and want to bring him to life. We all have different ways to work towards that goal. I just don't see why someone heavily modifying a blaster for their costume is such a heated topic; it's just a different way of doing things. One that requires just as much, if not more, ingenuity and hard work to make look half decent, compared to an MR blaster or a kit that needs filling/sanding. For the most part, I was agreeing with you up to that post; it's just the way it was worded was very off-putting.

Sorry if I offended. You're entitled to your opinion. I just think those that want to convert a toy blaster are also entitled to theirs.
 
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Sorry if I offended. You're entitled to your opinion. I think those that want to convert a toy blaster are also entitled to theirs.
Brother you could not offend me, but you seem to be bothered by words I have used.

I highlighted all the red flags in your post that suggested an underlying distaste for those who use the blaster. 'Sad' and 'cheaters' were two particularly harsh terms used.
“Distaste for those who use the toy blaster” Really man? You found that meaning somewhere in my words. Here’s what I said.

I'm seeing these toy guns being sold on eBay as props and it's really sad.
Please don’t recall meninges or intentions I never made. I never called anyone “sad”. Here I’m referring to the situation as being “sad” and that’s not the same this as calling members sad. I hope you understand that there is a big difference.

I highlighted all the red flags in your post that suggested an underlying distaste for those who use the blaster. 'Sad' and 'cheaters' were two particularly harsh terms used.
Here you pull out the word “cheaters” I used. Here’s the context in which the word was used.

Building an EE3 blaster for yourself is the best experience a prop builder can have, but starting with a pre-made EE3 toy imo is the very fast and easy (cheap / cheater) route to take that many new or inexperienced members are taking.
You think I’m calling people Cheaters if they use the Hasbro toy gun, But I’m only implying this it’s the easy, fast, quick way to build a Prop blaster. Maybe the word cheater was not a good selection but let me ask you this and keep the answer to yourself. What’s the first word that would come to your mind if we were in a EE3 blaster build-off competition and in your box was templates, cardboard and plaster but in my box there was a Hasbro EE3 toy blaster, both black and silver paint?

I think we bombed this thread enough, if you would like we could discuss the issue offline. PM me I”ll even send you my phone number we can talk all about things we do like i.e. walks in the park, holding hands and Boba Fett. Lol
 
Ok.... Ponte so let me get this right.


The dented helmets sole purpose is to create movie quality boba suits and that's it? Am I right because I thought is was a community that was created for the love of a character from a movie we all love. So your saying for someone that can't or even chooses to build their suit out of how you say kids-craft materials should feel less because they didn't buy parts from the many prop dealers on the forum is just bad form on your part buddy. Did you ever stop and think that not everyone can go big or go home, some just have to make do with what their budget will allow? I did my hasbro blaster mod because A: it was a cheap mod that I in joyed doing and B: I had a new baby one the way. Saying someone in my predicament should not do a mod and just save up a few more hundred buck to spend on a blaster, (that would have went over well with the wife). Did you ever stop to think maybe not everyone is trying to create a movie accurate costume, maybe some people just want a cool looking boba suit and that's it.

All I'm saying is the criticism seems to be happening more often then not. Prime example you jumped in on Travsall's thread to jump my **** nothing more. Take with it what you will brother I didn't come here to fight with anyone. Just want to pop in and let Travsall know he did a great job on the mod that's all.



chris
 
Interesting thread and interesting build. I think the barrel mod certainly improves on the standard piece; in my opinion an alteration to the angle of the bracket and stock would yield a substantial benefit to the overall look. I saw another of these recently on RPF and I think it looks great. Obvioulsy a lot of work went into it and it turned out very nicely as have several others I have seen although personally they're not for me; it seems strange to me that several seem to think that we all want exactly the same things out of life. Whilst I think the options offered by Sidewinder/Stormrider and HS are excellent not everyone wants or can afford that. One could almost suggest that real Webley owners would look down on owners of those three great options and that would be very silly indeed.

Here's a link to the RPF build:

Boba Fett EE-3 blaster WIP-pic heavy

Enjoy

Andy
 
Interesting thread and interesting build. I think the barrel mod certainly improves on the standard piece; in my opinion an alteration to the angle of the bracket and stock would yield a substantial benefit to the overall look. I saw another of these recently on RPF and I think it looks great. Obvioulsy a lot of work went into it and it turned out very nicely as have several others I have seen although personally they're not for me; it seems strange to me that several seem to think that we all want exactly the same things out of life. Whilst I think the options offered by Sidewinder/Stormrider and HS are excellent not everyone wants or can afford that. One could almost suggest that real Webley owners would look down on owners of those three great options and that would be very silly indeed.

Here's a link to the RPF build:

Boba Fett EE-3 blaster WIP-pic heavy

Enjoy

Andy

Hi Andy:) that is a great thread, awesome build! but he uses very little of the toy gun and relies heavily on years of skill to get the finished results.
the circled area is what he used and that's maybe 20% of the real toy.
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This to me is a straight up legitimate Prop blaster build and here's why. He uses very little of the actual toy gun, adding full sized T strips, a real wood stock, PVC barrel and a real scope. His display of skills and craftsmanship is undeniable, a true artist. Some members like me normally cringe when we hear Hasbro toy blaster but here with your example and Travsall's build we see real skill and passion for prop building.

"Some members like me normally cringe when we hear Hasbro toy blaster" (=Syper=)

I say this because at any skill or budget level, i want members to try and attempt to build a blaster for yourself from scratch or kit. Guess What? no matter what it looks like, we are going to pat that member on the back. The point here is to encourage that member to keep building more props. In time their skill level will increase and one day they may want to rebuild that blaster over again, and their builds can only get better from that point on.

Some of us are getting worked up about what we think this guy said or what a members feels, lets not get rapped into that and i will apologize if i inadvertently headed us in that direction, that was not my intention. Lets all get back to our Man-Crush on Boba and start building ****.

(=Syper=) Jim
 
Jim,
you make an accurate observation on the amount of the blaster used in the RPF thread although I think the part he has used is the most difficult part to scratch build; it certinaly turned out very well indeed (and that doesn't detract fromthe effort spent). I like the build by travsall in this thread and the painting and weathering in particular but I stand by my comments on the bracket/stock - I think the angle really gives the Hasbro away... that comment is meant constructively.

For my own part I am four years into my build now and the end is nowhere in sight. I have bought many pieces pre made and painted by Bobamaker and whilst I think they're very nice I have far more of a connection to the Asok helmet I painted myself. I think my build is likely to take even longer in light of this as I now want to be more involved in my own build rather than just an expensive decade long shopping trip. Having something cool is great but having something cool you've a hand in yourself is great!

Live the dream.

Andy
 
Ok.... Ponte so let me get this right.


The dented helmets sole purpose is to create movie quality boba suits and that's it? Am I right because I thought is was a community that was created for the love of a character from a movie we all love. So your saying for someone that can't or even chooses to build their suit out of how you say kids-craft materials should feel less because they didn't buy parts from the many prop dealers on the forum is just bad form on your part buddy. Did you ever stop and think that not everyone can go big or go home, some just have to make do with what their budget will allow? I did my hasbro blaster mod because A: it was a cheap mod that I in joyed doing and B: I had a new baby one the way. Saying someone in my predicament should not do a mod and just save up a few more hundred buck to spend on a blaster, (that would have went over well with the wife). Did you ever stop to think maybe not everyone is trying to create a movie accurate costume, maybe some people just want a cool looking boba suit and that's it.

All I'm saying is the criticism seems to be happening more often then not. Prime example you jumped in on Travsall's thread to jump my **** nothing more. Take with it what you will brother I didn't come here to fight with anyone. Just want to pop in and let Travsall know he did a great job on the mod that's all.



chris

I never said anyone should "feel less" because they didn't buy a screen accurate blaster...my whole comment on "kids crafts" had almost NOTHING to do with this mod; it has to do with shoddy workmanship on multiple builds that get the "Wow, this is perfect!", a sentiment you fully support which I feel kills innovation and self-improvement. It's a fact.

My main issue was when you got on Fett4Real's case about how he should come in and just say "great job" on something that wasn't screen accurate...he never said that it was a bad build, he made mention of the extremely apparent size difference between the Hasbro and the movie-accurate blasters. That's it.

I'll accept that there are people here who want to build their Bobas as cheaply as possible, using as little time and effort they can to pump out an instant gratification costume, be it finances, lack of time/patience/whatever...but you also need to accept that there are those on here who aren't afraid to "tell it like it is", and offer improvement. It's one thing if Fett4Real or myself came in and said "Wow, looks like a turd"...no, the sentiment was "It'll be really hard to get it screen accurate, HERE'S a photo explaining why".
 
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This would pass muster for 501st, which doesn't give real stats for this, and as Mr Fett stated not required. Not nearly as bad as the FX stormtrooper helmet they've allowed for years in the 501st.
Outstanding job on this piece of plastic by the way....a little size difference but looks great.
 
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