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Heh, Heh. Told you guys they'd look amazing like that ;)

I know that ppl don't seem to dig the whole topical thing anymore. Even though it's accurate in a lot of cases, I won't even try to debate it. BUT,
the fact is in this case, it affords the end user a virtually worry free set of knees. With a correct cast base color, light misting of weathering and silver / cream detail will take a LONG time to ever wear off because of the flex of the rubber, as opposed to a fully multi layered paint up (which will inevitably fall off after a wearing or two if you're lucky, even with a latex base.)

The whole "FP" theory from years ago was, while other's are repainting their knees weekly from the flex of the rubber, owners of these knees would have that time free for other things much more fun :D Never getting around to it for one reason or another was unfortunate - but Mike has shown that it is completely reasonable, and quite remarkable. Thank you brother for all your hard work ;)

Christian (MoW) was the only maker that attempted this at some point last year I believe. I'm not exactly sure why he stopped making them. But with a refined process this could be a new standard for "trooping" applications.


Great Job ! (y)

FP
 
Thanks FP. I only dissagree that I dont think the paint will crack/peel if you use the parma paint:) *wink*

Im telling you, that stuff BONDS. I guess ill have to do a flexem up test and take some pics tonight.

I have some yellow I think, ill do a quick mask job for you guys. but DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE POOR JOB ON THE PAINT! OR ELSE! heh.And im gonna use a pair of 'seconds' that didnt cure well.

So youll see some bumbs in them. The good ones dont have that.
 
Here Here FP! Well said. When trooping in your suit you always want worry free. Its exciting to see a new element of a costume that will be exactly that.

And great job on the Yellow Stormrider! That color looks fantastic!
 
Thanks evan. Its not fun:) And your racing the clock vs the cure:)

You can get it close with mixing to side a. but when you add b. it changes, and you have to adjust. and fast. so its lik e25 minutes of tinkering with the yellow/orange, mix. 5 minutes of RACING THE CLOCK.

Kinda stressfull but fun, in a rubiks cube that will cut your fingers off if you dont solve it kind of way:)

I think these will be more durable paint wise, as long as they use the parma paints than you believe. im gonna go do some pics though. back shortly.
 
Thanks Justin :)

Mike, just make sure you give a fair and unbiassed analysis - you got to do a primer coat, silver coat, and two yellow coats (one yellow, and a mist of the orange) to be fair, then of course there is the weathering ;) That's how most paint them. That's a lot of layers for rubber. My hunch is, if you get that much paint on it (and typically ppl may not apply light mist coats as their layer, but heavier instead) that it may be too much and get the dried river bed effect when flexed. It's not so bad when rubber is used for an object like a missile, or say darts. But the knees really take a flex beating.

I agree that the silver paint coating you showed me was pretty stout. But it was an ultra thin coating too. And when torqued, you could still see the paint giving away to stress. But yes, that paint grips better than I've seen anything else.

I know what you're up to ... you just don't want to pull them in yellow because they're a pain :lol: ;) I'd be feeling the same way, I'm just kidding with you.

Also, to streamline your process - make a recipe. Make a note of how many drops you add to part "A" before mixing. Then keep track of how many drops you add to part "B" to even it out when you're mixing (or visa versa, which ever part you're dying first). Then you know you can pre dye both part "A" and part "B" before you mix. Or even easier, dye is dye no matter which half you're putting it in. So add up all of the drops, and apply them to part "A" before you mix with "B". The outcome should be exactly the same in the end. (y)

FP
 
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The problem is yellow is 2-3 drops. No big deal. The orange is a dip with a toothpick 4 mm up, and then you keep 'rinsing off the toothpic till its the right color.

Literally i tried to do a drop today and now i have a set of 'sunkist orange' knees.

And I agree with you, your right when the paint gets that thick, it will prob crack. I didnt think about that actually. So I agree. But you did tell me to be 'biased' above, so I will. My ideas are the greatest:) JK

The only way I could get the colors to be mass produced is to mix the whole gallon at a time. If a wasnt clear and b wasnt dark brown, it would be a little easier, but because they are, neither really allows me to 'mix a batch' because when added together they change slightly.

So, that being said.... JANGO SILVER KNEES FOR SALE!

Haha i crack myself up. or ive been smelling too many fumes.

It looks like the karma give away will be for a set of bright orange knees. or. i could mist them light yellow! reverse weathering!
 
On a side note 2 things:

1. make sure you wash the knees before you paint them. Mold release and paint dont bite well.

2. Its raining, so im trying a test knee but I think its too humid to pull today. Ill get the ready to gos ready to go tonight but im dead in the water till the downpour stops.

Sorry for the hold up.
 
Well, heres the parma paint.
Mind you this is a 10 minute (literally) paint job. I painted it silver. Let it dry for a couple hours. Then painted it yellow.

The unique characteristic to this paint is it DOES CRACK. But DOESNT peel. So while there are crackes while FULLY FLEXED when you let go, the paint aligns its self again.

Before I photod these, I twisted, flexed, and stood on them.

To be fair, when I test the paint, I tweak, flex, twist and bend 180 degrees.

If you did that to a regular pair of knees, youd be rebuilding them, not just painting them.

Theres still mustard around the dart area:)


These, with this paint, will impress you. Probably the paint mostly. The 'glob dots' on the knees are why this ones a throw away. it didnt cure properly in a couple spots because of clumps in the rubber. I replaced the rubber.

Where the paints thicker, it cracks LESS. Contrary to what I would have thought happened. theres no saying that after 8 coats it wont crack though. But id say if you used these two, then topical creme and a mist, your golden.

yellowpaint.jpg

The 'push flat picture is further than you would ever bend these, and the other two pics were taken after.

I took another to show the 180.

remember these are untrimmed, un primed, straight out the mold knees.
flex.jpg
 
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That's pretty darned impressive ;)

I'll reserve my judgement for now :lol: Let see how they fair by this time next week. Little worried about urethane oils that may sweat. Probably ok thoough, as the black test rubber knee you left here seems to be ok.

Still, personal preference I suppose ... no paint for me, no soup for you :lol:

FP
 
Yea, they're looking great. I still don't want yellow ones, since I'm doing an Open Seasons Jango, lol, but it's still fun to watch. Can't wait to get mine :eek:
 
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OK. Now. On to the next set of 5-10 PMS going out later today.

The first full list, unless we have made otehr arrangements/waiting on somethign went out today.

Tracking/Customs forms posted.

Again, im going to a 'no darts now' list and ill offer up darts shortly. But I figured ill eat the cost of shipping twice, so you can get your knees and get working on them.

The first round should be arriving today.

And To note.... sadly....

FP was right. The yellow does riverbed crack. It doesnt flake or peel off though. At least the cheap yellow I used did. No saying it will all crack, the silver doesnt, and it only cracks in a small section around the edges of the front where it gets really narrow. ill post a pic later.

m2
 
Dang m2... lookin good

lets face it if your knees actually managed to get into the positions that you have shown/tested, then it's off to hospital as there would not be much of your knee left!! :lol:

Very impressive work bruv... (y)
 
Yah I think if people treat them as if they could break, there wont be paint problems. Ive said all along though. Better to shoot some paint, than buy a whole new set.

Now, I HAVENT tried taking paint off these. So I dont know what paint thinner will do to them:)

I should probably try for everyone.
 
Heres the real issue. Im going to be frank with you guys.

I cant really start offering 'colored' knees now. I cant accept the returns on those that want to 'trade'. The yellow is a LOT harder to do.

Even with an increased cost of $20 I feel like I would be cheating those that already ordered, because I just cant do an exchange for people. The shipping and materials cost too much.

So, whats the fairest way to handle that? The yellow was really just a try for Chris/FP.

My only thought is to offer anyone in list 2 a chance to back out. Once the list is done do another short run of colored knees. But what if people opt out and then the run falls short?

Your input is greatly appreciated.
M2
 
IMHO - I would 'like' yellow knees but its like only... Im still in for whatever is being offered! Dang - I might even sign up for the second run ti have a spare set :)

Im good with whatever is easiest for you - you are offering a fantastic service and your work is very appreciated - make your life as easy as you can!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave
 
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