Bo Katan Suit Questions

Hi all. Pardon my noobness. In regards to Bo Katan's outfit, do you think its a flight/jumpsuit or could it be a unitard/body suit? I know its a cartoon but it looks very form fitting/snug. I was wondering if there was a consensus from the field on that.

Also, the armor/flak vest--what material would that be? Leather/pleather like Jango? Duck cotton? Other?

Thanks!

Warhawk i would have to agree with you on the bodysuit. Its not a jumpsuit. It more of a mock turtleneck body suit.
I would almost suggest you buy a white cotton L/S turtleneck unitard and matching leggings. Dye them both together with the gloves.
The vest, its hard to say but since its open to interpretation I'd say go with cotton twill.
It will be effortless and comfortable since its all cotton.

Hey Crazy4BobaFett... My wife is interested in making a BO-Katan... What do you think?

Michael

Micheal

I'd say go for it. If I had more time I'd add it to my ever growing list of costumes. =)
Your biggest stumbling block is armor I'd think but I haven't vested much time into researching it.
Good Luck!
Christi

Originally Posted by crazy4BobaFett

Micheal

I'd say go for it. If I had more time I'd add it to my ever growing list of costumes. =)
Your biggest stumbling block is armor I'd think but I haven't vested much time into researching it.
Good Luck!
Christi

I am not aware of any Bo armor manufacturers other than the helmet. The one I have seen (its a WIP) was self manufactured and I think it looks great.

The suit looks like a dive type material. ala Zam. and she does not have a vest. She just has a double sleeves with the little blue edging.

And its a solid color, but the artist added smudges for weathering.

I too actually thought it could just be the extra sleeves like Boba and Jango... it'll be harder to do extra sleeves to a unitard, so I may still end up making a tight fit "vest" type tshirt that matches in color.

You know what guys, I looked it over and I think you're right. That would be difficult for a unitard I think. Tony, I think I agree. We might have to take artistic license and make it a two piece affair. How practical would it be to do a unitard long sleeve with a short sleeve shirt on top of the same material? The belt if done right should cover any lines of demarkation.

Also, her girthbelt is not behind her ammo belt. Its actually a bit lower. I dont know why the artists to this. Just freakjn put it right behind it like boba and jsngo.

It kinda hugs fhe hips instead of the waist.

Sorry on the spelling. Using my phone.

Originally Posted by SEEKER

Also, her girthbelt is not behind her ammo belt. Its actually a bit lower. I dont know why the artists to this. Just freakjn put it right behind it like boba and jsngo.

It kinda hugs fhe hips instead of the waist.

The artists probably never wore armor. Think the girth belt could be a reduced size? How would you tackle the build?

Be aware: here come some crazed ideads that just float my mind.

Originally Posted by warhawk50

The artists probably never wore armor.

This is a big problem iof every animated charackter in every franchise XD

But Bo for instance have some major issues for being drawn to quickly.
Like Filoni stated: Her Role was first set with a male DW-Lt. but then they decided to take a Women for that role.
Thats also the Reason why she had no Face in that Season - There was no time to make a proper one.
The Suit for instance has no clearly visible end at the shoes aswell. So maybe the sole is attached to the skintight strechsuit or the legs extend with an Uber-sized Spat that grabs the whole Boot.


But now for some creative input:

I guess if the custume-wearer has a "perfect" shape like the perfect animated charackter - some grey stretch-fabric like "under Armour" would do it. Who will look on the details of the fabric, when having a good looking A**? ;-)

Another Option: taking a grey Working suit and cut out some long triangles in the length of arm and leg. and then sew them together - but dont forget a zipper or velcro sealing at the end of the sleeves.



The Vest of Bo btw surprised me. because it is NO VEST! It has sleeves! So it is friggin T-shirt! XD

For the fabric i would assume Leather. It may look like its made of grey coal-smuged bricks in the animation (Well everything in TCW has an texture that looks like coal-smudged bricks in the first place XD ) -> but in fabricquestions i rather go with estaded Jango-Standards and say LEATHER. Maybe its just some raw, battelworn leather for Bo?

So i googled for a "T-shirt"+"leather" and well...
http://heycrazy.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=600&h=849
there are some trendy leather shirts and tops for girls and I bet there are some grey ones too.
Oh and there are far lot more skintight leathershirts for fetish people and gay ones too.
So if some of you have a problem with that -> you have been warned.


And i take Jango-Standards again. I guess the bottom of the Armorplated Shirt gets just stuffed under the Girthbelt.

btw Girthbelt: Normaly its easy to find a Girthbelt in the right Size in the equitation-equipment for Male's with a stomachal size of 90-110cm and more (its for horse bellys normaly) but while googling it. Short Girthbelts with lentghts of 60-70cm are very rare.
So i would recommend to take a girthbelt with double the size of your stomach. cut them in the middle and make two Belt instead of taking a 90cm long and threw the 20-30cm away XD

Her girthbelt looks alot like Boussh's cloth girth belt, but alot thinner and less ropes.

OBJECTION!

This is just an drafted artwork. In the Episode there is only one external strapping ;-)

But those Straps look cool but WONT work anyhow when dealing with weight. (Except if you stretch it that tight that you can amputate your legs)

The Deathwatch Holsterplates are the trickiest part of the Armor - here is why:
Your Upper leg is one of the biggest Muscles. It is slim when standing but grows thicker when sitting, or bending down. So if you dont intend to make the Plates out of rubber or any other elastic material -> you have to make your legplates with a little playspace for your muscles.

I used to attach my Holsterplate with Velcro. But that sucked major ba***ge. But i found an easier solution. -> invisible Elastic Strap! XD

I attached the Holsterboxes with metal-angles and screws once ... 2 up, one down.
So i took an thin elastic strap with the diametersize of my leg and attached it to the bottom of the plate (like the clear visible lower strap in the filoni draft) and a (5cm) thick strap that goes straight up to the waistline - where it is attached with Snaps right to the suit.
To make it invisible, just made some clean cuts into the suit to contrive the strap (like the straps of the kneeplates ;-) ) The Snaps ath the Waist got hidden under the ammobelt.

that way i can move myself and the plates flex with my body -> and nothing is more important then the abilty to move in your armor ;-)

he only thing i regret are the 2 meters of that ended up in the garbage can. XD

She should rename this thread the Bo-Katan costume info page.

Let's get all resources and get this whole costume done right.

Originally Posted by Mafio

OBJECTION!

This is just an drafted artwork. In the Episode there is only one external strapping ;-)

But those Straps look cool but WONT work anyhow when dealing with weight. (Except if you stretch it that tight that you can amputate your legs)

The Deathwatch Holsterplates are the trickiest part of the Armor - here is why:
Your Upper leg is one of the biggest Muscles. It is slim when standing but grows thicker when sitting, or bending down. So if you dont intend to make the Plates out of rubber or any other elastic material -> you have to make your legplates with a little playspace for your muscles.

I used to attach my Holsterplate with Velcro. But that sucked major ba***ge. But i found an easier solution. -> invisible Elastic Strap! XD

I attached the Holsterboxes with metal-angles and screws once ... 2 up, one down.
So i took an thin elastic strap with the diametersize of my leg and attached it to the bottom of the plate (like the clear visible lower strap in the filoni draft) and a (5cm) thick strap that goes straight up to the waistline - where it is attached with Snaps right to the suit.
To make it invisible, just made some clean cuts into the suit to contrive the strap (like the straps of the kneeplates ;-) ) The Snaps ath the Waist got hidden under the ammobelt.

that way i can move myself and the plates flex with my body -> and nothing is more important then the abilty to move in your armor ;-)

he only thing i regret are the 2 meters of that ended up in the garbage can. XD

Do you have some pictures of this? It sounds good. I'm a visual learner

Originally Posted by SEEKER

She should rename this thread the Bo-Katan costume info page.

Let's get all resources and get this whole costume done right.

I think with growing interest about this character, a dedicated page would be a good idea. Deathwatch Darling has a great build coming along.

I will make some pics when i find my camera.

just think on it like garter-belts. or like these holsters


only that the straps to the waist belt and over the leg are hidden under the suit ;-)

Good input on holster/thigh armor. Tony and I have also been batting around color. We've taken a look at a dye web site and wonder what folks think is the closest shade. I know for my part I have a hard time with colors/shades of color.

ColoRit Color Formula Guide | Rit Dye

The color groupings are on a bar towards the bottom of the page.

From the Neutral 1 family of colors I thought 349,351,and 390 were contenders.
From the Neutral 2 family of colors: 361
From the Blue/Green section: 215

Suggestions?

Sorry if I misunderstood, but you mean the color of the suit right? When I look at the episode, I indeed would say Neutral 2: 361. Yet on some pictures like http://images.wikia.com/starwars/ima...Detail-SWE.png, the suit seems a bit darker like Neutral 2: 285 or Neutral 1: 528 even?

Also sorry if I rudely interrupt btw. I've also started on a Bo-Katan costume and came across this forum and topic. You guys really have great tips and suggestions! I'm still a bit of a newby, but I also will be looking around for more info/tips/suggestions etc on the costume and hope I'm be able to help out you guys too

Originally Posted by GJenarian

Sorry if I misunderstood, but you mean the color of the suit right? When I look at the episode, I indeed would say Neutral 2: 361. Yet on some pictures like http://images.wikia.com/starwars/ima...Detail-SWE.png, the suit seems a bit darker like Neutral 2: 285 or Neutral 1: 528 even?

Also sorry if I rudely interrupt btw. I've also started on a Bo-Katan costume and came across this forum
and topic. You guys really have great tips and suggestions! I'm still a bit of a newby, but I also will be looking around for more info/tips/suggestions etc on the costume and hope I'm be able to help out you guys too

No apologies needed! Thanks for rolling in. I have a hard time with color. Shading, screen resolution and type as well as lighting all play a factor. Any tips or advice are much appreciated. It takes a village to raise a Bo

Originally Posted by GJenarian

Sorry if I misunderstood, but you mean the color of the suit right? When I look at the episode, I indeed would say Neutral 2: 361. Yet on some pictures like http://images.wikia.com/starwars/ima...Detail-SWE.png, the suit seems a bit darker like Neutral 2: 285 or Neutral 1: 528 even?

Also sorry if I rudely interrupt btw. I've also started on a Bo-Katan costume and came across this forum
and topic. You guys really have great tips and suggestions! I'm still a bit of a newby, but I also will be looking around for more info/tips/suggestions etc on the costume and hope I'm be able to help out you guys too

No apologies needed! Thanks for rolling in. I have a hard time with color. Shading, screen resolution and type as well as lighting all play a factor. Any tips or advice are much appreciated. It takes a village to raise a Bo

The suit is a charcoal dark gray with with lighter gray smudges.

Here's a better picture of the material. plus a little glimpse of the girth belt.

Hope this helps some of you on getting your girth belt correct. But on Monday or Tueday, I will give you guys a human rendition of this costume. stay tune.

Originally Posted by SEEKER

The suit is a charcoal dark gray with with lighter gray smudges.

Here's a better picture of the material. plus a little glimpse of the girth belt.

Hope this helps some of you on getting your girth belt correct. But on Monday or Tueday, I will give you guys a human rendition of this costume. stay tune.

Yeah, I think a real world version would be the charcoal/gunship grey (Strike Eagle grey). The variation of shading for a cartoon character would be to add depth/break it up. With all those smudges, surely Bo Katan isn't a dirty bird.

Great zoom of the girth belt and pouches. It looks like the pouches terminate at about the half way point. Standard girth is 9 rows right? And its definitely brown.

I ordered a couple of these. I'll paint them to standard. They should be lighter than ones made out of wood I hope.

The girth has fewer ropes/lines. Plus it rides just under the belt.

Originally Posted by GJenarian

Sorry if I misunderstood, but you mean the color of the suit right? When I look at the episode, I indeed would say Neutral 2: 361. Yet on some pictures like http://images.wikia.com/starwars/ima...Detail-SWE.png, the suit seems a bit darker like Neutral 2: 285 or Neutral 1: 528 even?

Man, this is tough. I think I might try 349 as a compromise from neutral 1. I guess you could always go darker if it doesn't work

Originally Posted by SEEKER

The girth has fewer ropes/lines. Plus it rides just under the belt.

I see said the blind man.

This is awesome! I'm starting my Bo katan sculpts tommorow. We are going to do vacformed kits. My wife is just about Bo's size in real life (except the long neck) should be fun!

Originally Posted by tuskenfett

This is awesome! I'm starting my Bo katan sculpts tommorow. We are going to do vacformed kits. My wife is just about Bo's size in real life (except the long neck) should be fun!

Eggcellent, don't forget to dare to share. Have you picked what kind of body suit yet?

One thing you'll learn on tdh is you use whatever soft parts crazy4bobafett says.

Guys I've been looking at images for her costume. I honestly think that there isn't a secondary sleeve on the jumpsuit. I believe the sleeve is to the vest just more of a slim shirt sleeve than the customary Curved Short Boba sleeve.
This is the thing with animated versus real life images, its left to personal interpretation.
I go through this all the time making costumes.
I always lean toward functionality because you have to wear it! Its not drawn on you...
The reason I suggested a unitard (bodysuit)and leggings is it would make more sense to have two pieces since you are a girl wearing the costume, and if you do indeed need to use the restroom well. Why I have a zipper in the waist of my Boba jumpsuit.
Anyhow I was just reading a bit here and thought I'd mention my reasoning.
Thanks Nick!

That is a good point... and I know my oldest daughter can't be at a con for as long as me and not have to pee sometime.

Thanks crazy4bobafett. My kid's bladder isn't all that big either.

When Crazy4BF speaks...you best be listening! She IS the Collective voice of the "soft parts gods"!

Originally Posted by warhawk50

Man, this is tough. I think I might try 349 as a compromise from neutral 1. I guess you could always go darker if it doesn't work

That's true, great idea

Also thanks for the tip crazy4BobaFett, also great idea! I actually was already thinking of making the bodysuit in 2 parts and then let the belt cover the transition. Originally my reason was that 2 parts (at least for me) would be better to come by and being more fitting everywhere over the body (sorry if my English isn't so great, but don't know how else to discribe it haha) at the same time then with a full bodysuit. But indeed it's also handy when having to use the restroom, since that also always is my problem when wearing a flightsuit for my TIE

Originally Posted by tuskenfett

This is awesome! I'm starting my Bo katan sculpts tommorow. We are going to do vacformed kits. My wife is just about Bo's size in real life (except the long neck) should be fun!

Nice!! I always had kind of the problem being to tall for most costumes of Star Wars characters, Bo-Katan was actually the first who would be even taller then me. Perhaps that's why I like her so much

Besides the fact that thy finally made a girl with armor that's ba!

Well I got a unitard and leggings from a dance store in white. The top was ok but the leggings did not translate well in my opinion. While there they showed me a catalogue with full body long sleeve mock turtle neck suits that can come in a charcoal grey or a color called gasoline. Both look similar in color to Bo. I am going to see if I can exchange them
The leggings were almost translucent and screamed swan lake.I was disappointed but hopefully I can exchange it as well as return the dyes I bought.

I was taking some screencaps and noticed this little girl



this is NOT bo katan... may have some more girls on our hands!

Originally Posted by tuskenfett

I was taking some screencaps and noticed this little girl



this is NOT bo katan... may have some more girls on our hands!

Good catch! It looks like the armor and helmet are the same. There is also a shot of a another female, real quick where if you blink you'll miss it. Its a blonde with a bob type(i think) haircut but you can't see her armor.

Those are the "Night Owl's". Bo's team of female Mandos.

I'm not sure if its her, but here's another pic of that same girl.

Tough mando girls!! awesome!

it looks like they may have bo's abandoned concept art color scheme.

AFAIK the Other Mando-girls except for Bo goes with that standart sceme.




Bo has another sceme just to let her stand out as the leader type of the squat i guess. Like Pre Vizsla has a markable Colorstyle (and later the helmet) of his own just to stand out of his goons. A Typical Movie and Cartoon law Make the LeaderGuy stand out of his goons. Not like in modern Armies were Squadleaders and Officers take of their ranksigns in a Combatzone to blend in with all those others Grunt, so that Sharpshooters need to wait until they give orders and handsigns to mark them dead ;-)

Here's how Bo-Katan should look like in a real person.

you missed the t-shirt/vest ;-)

Originally Posted by SEEKER

Here's how Bo-Katan should look like in a real person.

*** is that real??!?!?!?! If so, Well done! Whats the suit?

It's called Seeker is awesome at Photoshop

Originally Posted by Mafio

you missed the t-shirt/vest ;-)

This was for armor reference.

Originally Posted by TLobe00

It's called Seeker is awesome at Photoshop

That he is. The undersuits still real though. Inquiring minds want to know. Thought it isn't the gray of the cartoon.

Originally Posted by TLobe00

It's called Seeker is awesome at Photoshop

Exactly - this is totally for armor making and referencing to a real human being. A perfect one.

Originally Posted by warhawk50

That he is. The undersuits still real though. Inquiring minds want to know. Thought it isn't the gray of the cartoon.

My model is just wearing some black tights for the photo, not a final material.

Here's a quick comparison to the digital character and real model.

These pics are going to be extremely helpful for everyone.
Thanks man

Originally Posted by SEEKER

My model is just wearing some black tights for the photo, not a final material.

Man I am color blind, I thought it was dark blue/purple. It still looks great. You should do one with the Bo belts youre doing.

it does actually look bluish cuz of the reflection of the outdoors hue.

Black material is the worst... it can "appear" to be any color based on reflection and lighting... I thought it was a blue unitard at first too, but after looking closer, I see it IS a black material like you said Seeker; you can tell mostly by the right wrist and right side of the leg.

It looks also like the positioning of the armor and belts will have to be altered (like your photo Seeker) to accomodate that of a REAL womans proportions and not that of a unrealistic CG person

Here are couple of pictures of the helmet I am working on. Tony and I talked color and if I recall we thought maybe try Krylon Ocean Blue. Here is the fresh coat.




I'll also copy this to the other thread I have.

Paint and visor complete!


Her response to the helmet?



Thanks to Tony for helping me with the visor install.

Well, here is a picture of a unitard I ordered from a local dance shop. It is a Bal Tog mock turtle neck in "gasoline grey". I think it is pretty darn close in color. Its a tad darker in the pic than it really is. For a better description of the color, go to Bal Togs Supplex/Lycra Color Chart

THis looks about right...
What do you think?

Under Armour | Women's HeatGear® Longsleeve Compression T-Shirt | 1201267 | $34.99 | USA

Here is the matching pants...only they are thicker...may be good for holding up the armor and holsters after being attatched.

http://www.underarmour.com/shop/us/e...pid1221968-410

Not too bad, I'm still leaning towards a more grey than blue, but it is all perception (like the Jango flightsuit color debate)

Hey guys. If your family member/friend doesn't feel comfortable wearing such a form fitting suit...you can always get one of these, and carefully remove all of the excess pockets before washing it a few times with a small amout of bleach to lighten it up thus giving it a dark heather charcoal grey look. It's what I'm using with my mannequin display and it looks great. Plus I have pretty reliable insider information that Filoni himself said the Bo-Katan suit was indeed flight suit material.

Hope this helps and sorry for showing up late to the party with this information
CHILDREN'S BLACK FLIGHTSUIT - SoldierCity

Originally Posted by Cruzer

Plus I have pretty reliable insider information that Filoni himself said the Bo-Katan suit was indeed flight suit material.

Hope this helps and sorry for showing up late to the party with this information
CHILDREN'S BLACK FLIGHTSUIT - SoldierCity

Bo needs someone else to do her laundry then if her flight suit is that tight. And hey, at least you showed

Originally Posted by TK6682

THis looks about right...
What do you think?

Under Armour | Women's HeatGear® Longsleeve Compression T-Shirt | 1201267 | $34.99 | USA

Here is the matching pants...only they are thicker...may be good for holding up the armor and holsters after being attatched.

Under Armour | Women's UA ColdGear® Compression Leggings | 1221968 | $49.99 | USA

Looking at the screen that certainly is a nice color. I am leaning towards grey but I think blue would look great too. Did they have a version with a mock turtle neck? Were you looking at a seperate vest? I look forward to seeing it complete

I was looking in to a separate vest...still researching...I will let you know if i find anything that can work.

I would say the Night Owls have a short sleeve t-shirt/vest with a lighter color band at the edge of the short sleeves. It's obvious there is a step from the end of the short sleeves to where it lays over a more form fitting long sleeve under suit. (just under the shoulderbells) And for colors, the Night Owls (Not Bo-Katan) Their under suite also matches in color for the leggings navy blue with a black wash. While the Vest/Short sleeve shirt is a different color Charcoal Gray with light blueish gray band at end of short sleeve.

Bo-Katan has the same style sewn under-suite with the short sleeve T-shirt/vest with the edging being a more light blue with only a little bit some gray washed into it. But her under-suit is all Charcoal gray and leggings also being form fitting.

Kevin W.

TLobe and I were going to try the undersuit (as demonstrated by my kid in the picture above) with a shirt/vest top made of cotton to attach plates and such. I think Mafio's harness system is a good idea I think in regards to the thigh armor/holsters if they are to be functional, espcially for those using the bigger/heavier blasters.

Here is a pic I found of Bo Katan that I thought could be helpful...


Kevin W.

Well, Tony and I finally bit the bullett and dove in on trying to make some body armor for our younglings. We are lucky they are similar in size. I was able to get a hold of sintra from Meyers Plastics. We opted for 3mm. It comes in 48"x96" sheets at less that $30 per sheet. They also cut them to size for me. I had no idea how much we would need so I opted for two sheets which I had them cut into quarters so it could fit in my car. Based on the progress we are making so far, we are going to have a lot of sintra left over.

First we went for the shoulder bells. To help with the curve we used a small plastic dish to trace. This is the the first time either of us had worked with this material so this is a learn as you go project. Tin snips we found if you weren't too careful would easily split/crack/fracture the plastic. A dremel or jig saw is highly recommended.


To get the curve/flare we used a standard spray paint can along with a heat gun. The sintra responded beautifully to the heat and cooled quickly. We think the shoulders turned out GEFG (good enough for government)


From there we moved on to the thigh plates. Here we used the templates generated by DOD and formed them around standard gallon paint cans.




We were starting on the holster parts before we had to call it a night. Hope to make more progress soon!

ah jes, those **** holster plates.

i will first upgrade my Deathwatch suit to metal plates beause of the fear in braking the sintra when sitting down. XD