Discussion on TE SFS helmet- recast or original? within the Star Wars Costumes forum, part of the Star Wars Universe category; ------
Last edited by Metadude; May 6, 2012 at 5:04 AM.
Might be a RS recast because of the sharp vocoder? Why do you guys shoot first and ask later?
Last edited by Metadude; May 6, 2012 at 5:04 AM.
Looks more like a TE SFS (Set For Stun) or a recast of it. They were made in one piece fiberglass.
I'll look up the "TE SFS" and see where it came from
EDIT: looks like the TE SFS helmets came from scans of actual helmets
Yes, I forgot about the SFS helmet, and yes, they come from an OLD scan of a stunt helmet. It's fun to see it's the same helmet being sold on eBay for a few months.
Sweet, looks like I have something worthy of keeping for once
Yeah, the SFS 1:1 scale helmets were made by CNC-ing a block of foam making a master, and moulding it, using the 3D-scan of the SFS helmet. They lost some details in the process but later on a miniature (1:3 scale) SFS helmet was 3D-printed which kept the original details captured in the scan and that master was later moulded and minitures were made in 2 runs on the RPF. I actually have one of those from the 2nd run. I think RS is now in possession of the miniture mould.
I think TE also made some vac formed SFS helmets in HDPE. How he produced the vac moulds from 1-piece cast however is beyond my knowledge of mould making. Maybe Chris knows how that could be done?
Last edited by locitus; Apr 2, 2012 at 1:58 AM.
I feel awesome now, picked up a helmet with history
For 15$... ****!
Last edited by Metadude; May 6, 2012 at 5:05 AM.
A really good price for that, recast or not (I can't tell).
Usually recasted things look like *** don't they?
Most cases, absolutely !
This one looks REALLY clean. Though I'm still inclined to believe it to be a recast in spite of that. Mainly because I don't recall ever seeing a slush cast of one of these. Ever. But I could be wrong.
I had (and sold) two of them in glass.
Either way, I think it's awesome
Hopefully this is genuine
How much did genuine versions of the TE SFS sell for?
I got 425-450 for the genuine glass pulls. That was back in 2008.
Wow, that's more expensive than a fett helmet!
An accurate stormie helmet is usually more expensive than accurate fett helmet, don't ask me why... And there are a lot more of accurate stormie helmets than fett's.
You'd think accurate fett helmets would be worth more due to less of them around
Higher demand Id say on the storm trooper front, there are probably 20:1 at least to the Fett man.
EDIT: Just compared my helmet with images from this FS thread> http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f31/r...e-ultra-42485/
I've checked each and every detail on my helmet and what I can gather is that this is indeed a TE SFS helmet. OR a very detailed, VERY well created recast- every minor detail looks exact.
EDIT 2: I've checked some of the imperfections on the raw cast kits that people have gotten, and this helmet has the EXACT same marks and dips
Last edited by Metadude; Apr 2, 2012 at 5:39 AM.
So it's a recast, I can't remember TE doing resin casts or any other full size SFS made out of resin.
Seems to be a very high quality recast
Still, it may be a recast- but it is an awesome addition to my collection of star wars things has some lineage in a sense
That's for sure, I don't really care it's a recast, not that I support them but if it's already done, well... It's done.
It's like a fresh cake that was baked then another cake was made to look exactly like it, but it didn't taste as good
Anyone else have input?
Most storm trooper stuff is recast of something or another.
It's gonna be hard telling what's recast and what isn't
Patience and keen eyes my friend.
Oh, and about 14 pages worth of flame war in a thread on FISD where they try to clean up the TE-linage history before Gino and TE join in start to battle it out.
Ha ha, flamewars over a helmet
Well, not the helmets so much, but what they claim really happened many years ago. Here's the thread if you ever feel the need for some drama.
Sign In - First Imperial Stormtrooper Detachment
I'll give it a read... oh ****, I have to sign up
Well, it's a nice forum. If you're going to do stormtrooper-stuff you might as well sign up. Although I think the signed-in only thing is temporary.
I'm not gonna be doing a trooper, I just merely wanted to get an idea of where the helmet came from
Then check back later. The forum is normally open for guests too.
And by 'later' I mean it can take weeks.
We (I say 'we' as I'm part of the staff there) closed it to guests because the server we share with other 501st detachments is under heavy load by bots crawling the content and it needs to be sorted out before we open it to guests again.
Ah, seems logical to stop the servers from lagging
Yeah. But we're working on it. Takes some time to coordinate with the other forums though.
I can imagine
You might like this: ImageShack Album - 8 images
TE SFS Close Ups.
if it's a recast it would still have all of the imperfections of the original casting. $15... what a steal! the resin would cost more than that!
It is indeed a steal
If you want to compare it to the original scan.........
here you go......
The one I have has almost all those imperfections, but i've confirmed it with people who actually own one or some of these. Mine is definitely a recast
You're DrakeC13, aren't you?