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    Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Is that Andrew Ainsworth in the background?
    Thanks to Brian Muir for making these available.


    Last edited by Gino; 04-23-2008 at 10:08 AM.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    awesome pics. thanks for sharing! that one on the right looks wild!

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    I'm glad they didn't go with the other version, looks like it's got a muffler on the side!

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    That is sweet! There's a book out now about the making of the first SW with a lot of pics of the original sculpts. Now where's a pic of the original Fett sculpts?

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Those are great photo! Thanks for sharing!
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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    That would be a very young George Lucas in the background of the first pic.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    I would hope we all knew that, LOL

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Great pic Gino, that second trooper lid is pretty wild

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    WARNING.

    We at TDH are far removed from the politics at other forums, and have no wish to take sides or be embroiled in controversy. If anything, we regret even being drawn into this matter at all. Its unfortunate.

    Please measure your responses to this thread accordingly.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by obi sean kenobi View Post
    WARNING.

    We at TDH are far removed from the politics at other forums, and have no wish to take sides or be embroiled in controversy. If anything, we regret even being drawn into this matter at all. Its unfortunate.

    Please measure your responses to this thread accordingly.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin677 View Post
    Did I sneeze and miss something
    Not really.

    Is it me or does seeing an unvaced TK look odd and sort of cool. It is amazing on what items look like before you vac them.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    You know, somewhere buried in those archival photos, there has to be fett sculpture concepts/progress just waiting to be uncovered.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by asok View Post
    Is it me or does seeing an unvaced TK look odd and sort of cool. It is amazing on what items look like before you vac them.
    I was thinking exactly the same thing, wierd but cool

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gino View Post
    You know, somewhere buried in those archival photos, there has to be fett sculpture concepts/progress just waiting to be uncovered.
    There is, they just did a REALLY poor job of organizing there photos... I think they went and scanned most everything they had but its all dumped in a giant database to the best of my knolage with no real organization.

    Hopefully some day they will revamp all of that because it would be nice to see some of that stuff published!

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    I've had pretty good luck with two people at LFL I have asked for archive photos of Rebel helmets. I think the longest it took for them to find something out for me was 3 days. Never asked about Fett stuff or Imperial stuff really. Then again, I try not to seem like I'm always bothering them about stuff like that when I talk to them either LOL

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I've had pretty good luck with two people at LFL I have asked for archive photos of Rebel helmets. I think the longest it took for them to find something out for me was 3 days. Never asked about Fett stuff or Imperial stuff really. Then again, I try not to seem like I'm always bothering them about stuff like that when I talk to them either LOL
    any of those rebel helmets happen to be the fleet trooper? a bunch of us are having the "is it grey or white" argument again.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    I know there was a bit of controversy regarding the use of the above pics. Fortunately a friend of TDH has very graciously provided us with another copy of the image. It is a bit rough, but much larger. Thank you for sharing!

    Large version: http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/misc/...s/tksculpt.png
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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Awesome,

    Thanks Brak's, and all involved , for making this available...

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Very cool photos! Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Thanks for the pics of Star Wars history!

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    I believe Obi Sean's post was very clear but since a few people need things spelled out for them, let me make sure there is no misunderstanding in regard to this thread; do NOT bring fights from other boards here. Any additional posts made that even hint at ugliness will result in the poster being banned.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    With all the nice pictures (err... same picture in different sizes) being shown... are there any other?

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    I was only sent the one pic. I know I would love to see more... especially of that one odd prototype helmet! It is ugly as can be but fascinating! Can you imagine if THAT had been the final helmet and how it would change the debates we see on the RPF and other trooper boards?

    "Well, you got the divot between the eyes right, but the snorkel is CLEARLY too small! The correct respirator is a 56346A oil can, not the more common 56346B. Sheesh! And I thought you guys knew something about SCUBATROOPERS!

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Sounds pretty much like the regular discussions... just with different parts and details. Though... a bit less aggressive than we are used to. Think you need to add some pie throwing.

    Well, we'll eventually see if more is shown.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    oh man these pics are amazing! thanks for sharing!

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by tk7602 View Post
    any of those rebel helmets happen to be the fleet trooper? a bunch of us are having the "is it grey or white" argument again.
    No they were pilot helmets. I asked about the grey white thing though, as well as the rebel hanger crew suit colors and my response from that was the RFT troopers are eggshell colored white. Steve Sansweet also confirmed white. And hanger crew is not grey, but a "sand" color. Similar to the undershirts of Endor commandos

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    No they were pilot helmets. I asked about the grey white thing though, as well as the rebel hanger crew suit colors and my response from that was the RFT troopers are eggshell colored white. Steve Sansweet also confirmed white. And hanger crew is not grey, but a "sand" color. Similar to the undershirts of Endor commandos

    Eggshell is basically off-white isn't it...so that puts it somewhere between white and light grey.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxbatkllr View Post
    Eggshell is basically off-white isn't it...so that puts it somewhere between white and light grey.
    and that's the dilemma. we want to have the most accurate look we can get for our RFT group, but i haven't seen a single non-screen-cap pic of a screen used one.

    we're leaning toward light grey, since that shouldn't be jarring to those that think white, but i should contrast a bit with the stormies.

    and see... stormtrooper! back on topic!

    so... anyone read any good 70 page AA arguments lately?

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    I personally did light grey on my RFT helmet as did most of the people here in Sunrider Base.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango72 View Post
    That would be a very young George Lucas in the background of the first pic.
    Yeh, Looks like George.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    I was being sarcastic.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gino View Post
    I was being sarcastic.
    Ah the highest from of wit!

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by tk7602 View Post
    and that's the dilemma. we want to have the most accurate look we can get for our RFT group, but i haven't seen a single non-screen-cap pic of a screen used one.

    we're leaning toward light grey, since that shouldn't be jarring to those that think white, but i should contrast a bit with the stormies.

    and see... stormtrooper! back on topic!

    so... anyone read any good 70 page AA arguments lately?
    well Sansweet says white. Archive folks told me eggshell. its also a matter of people asking you "why is your helmet grey?" because all toys and video games and comics have all been white.

    i asked about the vs the walls thing, and the response to why they looked grayish or different white than the stormies, was different pulls of plastic and paint vs gloss reflections of the smoke visors.

    so Florida went with a white, that isnt a pure white, but isnt grey at all either. problem with plastics is, even with TK armor some of your pieces are different color in different lighting since they didnt come from the same sheet of plastic when molded :/

    I havent had interest in doing an RFT but next time I go to send a package to LFL I'll ask about pictures of RFT helmets. I'm curious if Steve has one cause he didnt hesitate at all with the "white" answer.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    If this has already been covered i applogies for bringing it up again but who was the guy that originally designed and made boba fetts costume I read somewhere it was all done in England which seemed strange to me is this guy still alive ? what else has he made ?

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mandalorian_Assassin View Post
    If this has already been covered i applogies for bringing it up again but who was the guy that originally designed and made boba fetts costume I read somewhere it was all done in England which seemed strange to me is this guy still alive ? what else has he made ?
    If you mean who sculpted the Fett helmet and armor it was a girl, not a guy. Unfortunately she passed away about 4 years ago. Beyond that, there was a whole team who were involved in assembling and finishing the Fett suit. most often John Johnston and or/ Ralph McQuarrie are given dual credit for the design and idea. Jose did some work on the piece, but again, the Fett project was a joint effort amongst many skilled artisans.

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy View Post
    If you mean who sculpted the Fett helmet and armor it was a girl, not a guy. Unfortunately she passed away about 4 years ago. Beyond that, there was a whole team who were involved in assembling and finishing the Fett suit. most often John Johnston and or/ Ralph McQuarrie are given dual credit for the design and idea. Jose did some work on the piece, but again, the Fett project was a joint effort amongst many skilled artisans.
    ...and still is

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    ah thx for the info

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    Does that "she" got a name... now that we are talking about sculptors of stuff?

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    Re: Pics of the original stormtrooper helmet sculpt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy View Post
    Jose did some work on the piece, but again, the Fett project was a joint effort amongst many skilled artisans.
    Jose?

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