High End Licensed SW Armor / Costumes Coming Soon

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front...mes_112648.asp

"New Agreements Begin This Month for Collectible Replica Clothing and Armor

Fans and collectors will find new lines of collectibles from Museum Replicas and their new licensing division Windlass Studios in 2008; it was announced today by Museum Replicas. Lucas Licensing’s STAR WARS replica clothing and armor licensee will assume the design and production of the high-end, collectible ensembles and full sets of the iconic armor including stormtrooper and bounty hunter armor.

Museum Replica’s line will debut in the spring and continues the remarkable popularity of high-end collectibles for discerning STAR WARS enthusiasts. The line will feature replica clothing and armor of such unforgettable characters as Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Darth Maul, Padmé Amidala, Anakin Skywalker, Boba Fett, Han Solo and Princess Leia.

Newly formed Windlass Studios will develop, manufacture and distribute collectible, limited-edition replicas of full-sized and wearable ensembles. They expect the first ensembles to be available for pre-order in the spring while the armor is set to be unveiled for the first time at San Diego Comic-Con International in July.

The STAR WARS clothing and armor collection can be seen in person at the Museum Replicas/Windlass Studios exhibitor booths at the International Costume Show Las Vegas, San Diego Comic-Con International & Atlanta Dragon*Con 2008"

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I'll hafe to see it before I beleive it.

ahh this is gonna be terrible. Unless they have access to real deal stuff, this will go down just the like the rubies stuff or worst.

Well...i'll just wait and see how it looks like...

Here is the Q & A that may help answer some questions..

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showfla...part=1#3089892

meaning that we'll see more 501st new member application soon ?

I don't think (and hope) that it will come to that. I think these guys always say stuff like that but when it comes down to it they're not THE fans. They're not the ones who obsess over it and scrutinize every detail. They're going to miss things. Big things, small things, they're going to miss lots. I think these will probably look semi-passable, but nothing compared to what someone like you does.

Of course, we could all be pwned.

Windlass Steelcrafts make some pretty decent swords, and their old world armor isn't bad (a little pricey though). I'll reserve judgment till I see the products.

It's an understandable reaction for sure. I'll admit it makes me a little nervous about it too. For those that troop in the 501st I can see it easily taking away some of the "specialness" if everybody has an off-the-shelf boba or stormie or whatever. Now, if they want to do a really nice licensed bossk I'm all over that. I just don't think these items are going to be THAT nice. Nice enough for a casual fan maybe, but not for a 'die hard'.

I think that their SW stuff will suck like the rest of their stuff.

LOOK LOOK!!!

I found a Picture of what their prototype Boba Fett costume would look like. Check out the link my friends http://birthdayexpress.com.edgesuite...78722_0460.jpg
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Im sorry, I could't resist. I hope their stuff will be good tho.

Originally Posted by Foxbatkllr

I think that their SW stuff will suck like the rest of their stuff.

Agreed... but you forget... "and overpriced"

Originally Posted by jawafive

It's an understandable reaction for sure. I'll admit it makes me a little nervous about it too. For those that troop in the 501st I can see it easily taking away some of the "specialness" if everybody has an off-the-shelf boba or stormie or whatever. Now, if they want to do a really nice licensed bossk I'm all over that. I just don't think these items are going to be THAT nice. Nice enough for a casual fan maybe, but not for a 'die hard'.

What makes me nervous is that people will buy it not knowing that it may or may not be accepted by the 501st. Just like the Rubies Vader - they showed movie promo shots to say that is what the costume will look like... people got it, put it on and were denied membership to the 501st because of it's poor quality.

I honestly hope that the 501st is smart enough to not allow any "off the shelf" products into their membership either way. I think thats sort of a let down to the entire scratch built community if they do.

Originally Posted by jodo

I honestly hope that the 501st is smart enough to not allow any "off the shelf" products into their membership either way. I think thats sort of a let down to the entire scratch built community if they do.

It would sort of take the "heart" out of the hobby wouldn't it. Come to think of it, it really wouldn't be a hobby anymore

FP

Look at this stuff: http://www.windlassstudios.com/c-8-armor.aspx

Guys, so far their stuff is ****. What is that junk?

Well, look at what they say about the Magneto helmet. They say they worked with the real helmet from X3 but the shape is all wrong!

Also, all their leather stuff looks extremely cheap. Like the lowest grade leather they could find...almost looks like vinyl.

Originally Posted by ItsThatGuy

What makes me nervous is that people will buy it not knowing that it may or may not be accepted by the 501st. Just like the Rubies Vader - they showed movie promo shots to say that is what the costume will look like... people got it, put it on and were denied membership to the 501st because of it's poor quality.

Your absolutely right. About 10 months ago, when I decided that I want to buy a Boba fett costume, I started searching on the Internet for some sellers and you what website came up..........Star Fortress Production!

When I saw their Boba fett costumes they looked awesome at First. But what did I know, I was new! I didn't know how extremely inaccurate their costumes were. I thought SFP suits would surely get me into the 501st. But luckily I found TDH.

I looked at a few windlass pieces at comic-con last year. HATED most of them. Only saving graces were the magneto and cyclops ones. The Thanos gauntlet was horrid.

I just had a mini heart attack... Here is someone who is actually talking about making non-idealized armor!!!

If they do Boba armor and ANH stormtrooper armor the right way all my dreams will come true. Here's hoping! (Maybe I wont need a set of armor from you after all FP )

Perhaps

FP

i think material wise anything they make will just fall apart or break.

Hopefully this will give us some nice high end costume pieces.... I thinks it's exciting! Maybe we should at least wait and see some prototypes before we bring out the lynch mob!

Problem is, the people who get to do the research, development, and design for licensed replica companies are never the most qualified people for the job.
All the potential is there, but because they have the wrong people in those positions, the product never will turn out as well as it COULD.

Economically, I don't think they can be successful at making costumes which are accurate, high quality and cost effective. If they make it relatively inexpensive for the general public so they can sell , theres no way the Chinese 13 year old assembling and painting it will make it accurate or of high quality. Conversely, If they try to make it high quality, the cost will be put out of reach by all but a handful of collectors and they won't make money in the end.

Maybe a high quality Han Solo or Luke Skywalker costume could be done for a price that will sell on the open market, but never TK or Fett armor.

For me, building, assembling, painting my own bits and pieces are what make it enjoyable as a hobby, something you can be really proud of, for some people this is fantastic news and I will reserve judgment until I see pictures but as a whole I think I will stick with my boys and girls here at TDH

Originally Posted by Gino

Problem is, the people who get to do the research, development, and design for licensed replica companies are never the most qualified people for the job.
All the potential is there, but because they have the wrong people in those positions, the product never will turn out as well as it COULD.

Actually Gino I would beg to differ...
I think for this particular project, at least the Fett stuff, I know for a fact that they will have some pretty knowledgible people on board......which is a good thing....

I myself am VERY excited about this. Some of the questions we had in terms of the suit will more than likely be answered throughout this process...which again, is a good thing.

And I don't want to sound like I'm completely on board, but according to the Q&A and others "in the know", friends of TDH...they are taking the right appoarch, and asking ALL the right questions...and to me, that's a great start.

They know that people like us have allot of information to help. I don't think they will be trying to "reinvent the wheel" when it comes to this stuff....again I can only speak for the Fett community on this.

All that being said, this is a retail costume that will be released, and unltimately it will be an idealized version.... My own fett so far, is over 6000$, I don't think they are gonna put something like that out...why would they?..only us TDH'ers would end up buying it.
So I think people will see a "MR" version of the Fett suit... if that makes sense (referring to the MR helmet)...Parts and sizing will be correct, but depth, color, and detail is what will make the difference.

eghhh.

This thread is like the MR disputes all over again.


Bottom line, these people will do enough research to make an acceptable product that will bring in a profit.

They probably won't spend more time than they have to, and are just trying to make a solution for people who want to buy things right away, or get a costume in one straight shot. Not complete a costume over 5 years replacing things every several months like we do here.

The materials will be decent enough for a replica, but face it...if it's mass produced for a category like this it's not going to be the strongest stuff in the world.


I could be wrong, and I'm not bashing their stuff either. But I think private prop makers are the way to go for most of the people on this board.

If they end up producing a screen accurate ANH stormtrooper though you better believe I'll drop cash on it

I'm too far along on my fett to even bother with whatever they come out with, no matter what.


-Quinn

I wouldn't hold my breath. Knowledge alone just won't cut it.
It takes the intimate knowledge of the subject matter, as well as the talent to interpret and manifest that knowledge into a product that will satisfy both the discerning collector as well as the casual fan. It also takes someone with knowledge of manufacturing technologies, marketing strategy, production experience, materials and processes, and truly have a finger on the pulse of the target audience.

I think that there have been (and will be) people who possess some of those characteristics, but not all wrapped up in one which is why so many blunders have occured, and will occur.

Originally Posted by Gino

I wouldn't hold my breath. Knowledge alone just won't cut it.
It takes the intimate knowledge of the subject matter, as well as the talent to interpret and manifest that knowledge into a product that will satisfy both the discerning collector as well as the casual fan. It also takes someone with knowledge of manufacturing technologies, marketing strategy, production experience, materials and processes, and truly have a finger on the pulse of the target audience.

I think that there have been (and will be) people who possess some of those characteristics, but not all wrapped up in one which is why so many blunders have occured, and will occur.

Valid points..
Hope this doesn't come off wrong, I get what you're saying and all ..
I guess my question is....."What makes you think they don't have any of that knowledge and ability at hand already?? to AT LEAST come close???..or better yet, to get it right.??"...(speaking strictly on the Fett side)

I guess what excites me about all this, at least in this fett community, is they are asking all the right people, and asking all the right questions. ....that I know.
They truely know who they need to appeal to aswell, and understand that people like us are on one end of the spectrum, and I think they will reach some medium ground.......... unfortunately not everyone will be happy no matter which direction they end up going.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Valid points..
I guess my question is....."What makes you think they don't have any of that knowledge and ability at hand already?? to AT LEAST come close???..or better yet, to get it right.??"...(speaking strictly on the Fett side)

Because in the end, its still a non-Fett "expert" (for lack of better term) doing the work.
Alex, you can provide your expertise all day long just like Lee, Art or any of those guys did with MR, Sideshow etc.. and its still not going to be right.

Close?? I guess you could call MR close. When LFL hands you a helmet and all you get is close, there is something wrong.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Valid points..
Hope this doesn't come off wrong, I get what you're saying and all ..
I guess my question is....."What makes you think they don't have any of that knowledge and ability at hand already??

The short answer.
Because I know all the people in this hobby who do possess those abilities, and none of them are involved.

Originally Posted by Delta75

Because in the end, its still a non-Fett "expert" (for lack of better term) doing the work.
Alex, you can provide your expertise all day long just like Lee, Art or any of those guys did with MR, Sideshow etc.. and its still not going to be right.

Close?? I guess you could call MR close. When LFL hands you a helmet and all you get is close, there is something wrong.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

Valid points..
unfortunately not everyone will be happy no matter which direction they end up going.

This is most certain

I think it's time for a breathe of fresh air. There are a couple of things that Windlass has going for them ...

They've been established for many years. Museum has been around since
'71. Windlass grabbed them in '96. So I think they've at least shown that they DO have some knowledge of the business, and have found a little middle ground somewhere along the line. They've done a great deal of their business, making items for other companies too, when no one had a clue who they were. they even made items for MR I believe.

Case in point, unlike MR, they've got a bit of experience on their side. I don't believe they're going to be as quick to "jump" on anything, if they're not fully prepared. Times have changed, and if anything, you know full well, they've been watching MR with great interest over the past 5 years, and have learned a lot from their mistakes with the Star Wars universe with their "mindset" of obtaining that license someday themselves

I know I would have been paying attention

Originally Posted by Gino

The short answer.
Because I know all the people in this hobby who do possess those abilities, and none of them are involved.

Wow bro, that wasn't nice at all. With statements like that, this thread could go south fast. Keep cool man We're just talking here.

FP

MR asked all the right people all the right questions and they still got it wrong! They had access to everything.

Originally Posted by Foxbatkllr

MR asked all the right people all the right questions and they still got it wrong! They had access to everything.

They asked, but they didn't listen.

Originally Posted by Delta75

Because in the end, its still a non-Fett "expert" (for lack of better term) doing the work.
Alex, you can provide your expertise all day long just like Lee, Art or any of those guys did with MR, Sideshow etc.. and its still not going to be right.

Close?? I guess you could call MR close. When LFL hands you a helmet and all you get is close, there is something wrong.

I hear ya... in the end you are right Delta...once the knowledge is pasted on, it's really up to them what they do with it..........WOW, I think we just agreed on something....

Originally Posted by Gino

The short answer.
Because I know all the people in this hobby who do possess those abilities, and none of them are involved.

no comment...

Just a quick note of interest,

First we had master replicas = MR

Now we have museum replicas... = MR...

Wierd coincidence?

Love some opinions on this...

Originally Posted by Foxbatkllr

MR asked all the right people all the right questions and they still got it wrong! They had access to everything.

I agree with Gino on this, BIG TIME. They just didn't listen. This time it should be different tho

And the whole "MR" vs. "MR" - got to be a coincidence ...

FP

Not trying to offend anyone, just putting it out there.

I will say this, I think it was a step in the right direction for MR to invlove some of the talent they did for projects such as the fett helmet. The problem is that they weren't involved enough.

I think it's hard for people who are in the decision making positions to swallow their pride and let the 'talent' or 'project consultant' do their thing.

I agree Gino, it's a direct hit to the ego for some of these guys, to take advice from a "consultant" when they consider themselves - the expert

Hopefully, this is one of the lessons learned from MR's mistakes.

FP

They actually made some prototype Anakin boots and they were made from the cheapest leather you can imagine...like the same kind of stuff you might get from costumebase or starfortress.

Originally Posted by Gino

Not trying to offend anyone, just putting it out there.

I will say this, I think it was a step in the right direction for MR to invlove some of the talent they did for projects such as the fett helmet. The problem is that they weren't involved enough.

I think it's hard for people who are in the decision making positions to swallow their pride and let the 'talent' or 'project consultant' do their thing.

No offense taken....it's cool.

I do think there are a Lot of talented people here on this board and on the RPF and other boards..... and I think this new group see's that. , and acutally understands some of the mistakes MR made.

I think we are all saying the same thing really... that there are talented people out there, that can help....it's up to them to use those people to help get it right.....so we'll see.

My question, how many of us have actually "offered" our help to Master Replicas, or actually considered helping out Museum Replicas?

Just a curious q.

In general I agree with you guys as you have poured your heart and souls into these costumes. If you read the interview from Rebelscum, the guy says he is a fan and the items will be as close to the items as humanly possible. They could be a source for some finishing touch items.

Pretty much Windlass studios is not totally new they were at Comic Con last year and I spoke to mr. Windlass and Dave dipietro at length about what they intend to make and produce. Windlass is formerly Atlanta Cutlery and reformed into this. All items are photographed ahead of time and handed over to India to produce. Basically Dave is the only one who'll be doing the picture taking.

In the end I'm sure these will be nice however probably just above a Rubies caliber. I'll check into it more and see what they got going on. If anyone has any Atlanta Cutlery items that will probably give you an idea of what they are capable of. This is really not super great news since the price compared to quality will feign off most serious accuracy freaks and the like. Don't forget MR had their Roceteer helemts mfg'd in India and they were at deaths door a few months ago about to be deep sixed of a barge into the ocean...no kidding.

Lee

Since most of you are sceptical and I am just starting my Fett (just got my armor last night and will be ordering a Sgt. Fang lid), should I steer away from something like this all together?

"Stupid is as Stupid does." You can have ALL the right references, ALL the right people in the know, and still have a mediocre product. These companies still are out to make a good buck, bottom line. They most likely have the right intentions to do the best they can.

But with that being said, they still have many people in the process that are involved in many different areas, some are knowledgeable, some are not. they produce these overseas, etc. There is a lot of room for error especially when it comes to a highly detailed prop or costume. Look at just the shape of the MR Fett helmet. That alone is a simple quality control issue. They had Lee's paint job AND a real Lucas helmet and still didn't get it right. Maybe they just didn't care anymore.

I have high hopes for Museum Replicas, but as history shows. The quality only lasts for so long. Could be management, could be suppliers. First Don Post, then Rubies, then Icons, then Master Replicas, now Museum Replicas and Windlass. Guess we'll see.

No stay the course. There is nothing like building your own suit if you feel you have the time etc. to do it.

I guess I'm one of the few lucky ones who got a decent Rocketeer helmet from them.

Ok, let's put a different spin on this ...

We've been in search of accurate parts for years. Finally, a company gave us a helmet that is pretty close to the real deal, regardless of the flaw. A scan of a real item. Even if it was the wrong one

What else have we been given off the suit ?? Nada

Maybe it's just me, but the prospect of getting another "bone" thrown at us, another scan,off of another part of the suit .. is HUGE.

The helmet has bugged me to death, as it has a lot of you over the years. We finally get a glimpse of what the real helmet looked like in the MR.

Now we have the oppertunity, to get an idea of what the reall armor might look like, or the real gauntlets ! These components have also bugged me for years. When you make/sculpt this stuff, you see things, after hundreds of hours, that boggle the mind. You think things like "There's no way that could be like that"? "There's no way that curve could terminate there, it's got to be camera tricks", ect. To finally lay something like this to rest, is HUGE.

SO WHAT - if the paint jpb is not accurate?????? If I finally get to see what I've been doing right or wrong on a sculpt all these years, or make some sense of the chaos in my head in regards to their shapes, and lay to rest my questions by being afforded the opportunity to hold my own next to a scanned replica, this is HUGE.

Again, think about it? Armor, and gauntlets ? Paintjob? blahhh. I'm just going to strip it anyway if it's that bad and repaint it, or fix it if needed, like I'm doing with the MR.

The basic point is this .. the "Fans" want as close as they can get? Windlass is saying they can give us as close as humanly possible. So why not cheer them on, and hope for the best, not their failure ??? It makes no sense
If it's at least as good as wht MR was able to provide, it's still a glimpse of something, we've never had before. It's better than NOTHING

FP

I swear FP, I was typing the Exact same thing. ....weird.

**EDIT POST

and Here Here.....couldn't agree more..HUGE, very HUGE!

and don't forget the Jet Pack too..:jet pack..

Totally agree with you FP. Scanned parts are definitely better than none! Bring on the scanned Lucasfilm SW props and costumes!

Well, I'm excited to get to see these things when they are unveiled, and at ComicCon, up close when I'm there in the summer. You never know...although I'll prolly never get one, cuz I'm sure the price will be through the roof.

What bothers me most, as I am sure the Vader's were upset with the supreme being released, is that we put a lot of time and effort into making our costumes look awesome...for them to come out with these is like a slap in the face to us. Not to mention the amounts of money that we spend.

Originally Posted by Satxer

What bothers me most, as I am sure the Vader's were upset with the supreme being released, is that we put a lot of time and effort into making our costumes look awesome...for them to come out with these is like a slap in the face to us. Not to mention the amounts of money that we spend.

Saxter, I don't understand your statment?

Originally Posted by fettpride

Saxter is referring to he Rubies "Supreme" Vader. A $500 monstrosity. Great for a halloween gig at a private costume party where no one would no the difference. I believe I've seen 501st members wearing them

But again, we're talking about RUBIES It was supposed to be their jump into "Collectors Quality" ... or "Museum Quality". They even had the audacity to advertise that the suit was from the original LFL molds from ROTS MAYBE the belt buckle, and PERHAPS the shin sculpt. But nothing else.
FP

ahhhhh I see..., not a vader guy...
and I think these will be slightly better.

Yeah, I can't wait to see what they do with Vader. I really hope they do the ROTS first, it's still my favorite, even though I reaally don't care for the prequels. ( ok, ok, let the rifle squad take aim ...... and .....)



FIRE !

FP

Originally Posted by Satxer

What bothers me most, as I am sure the Vader's were upset with the supreme being released, is that we put a lot of time and effort into making our costumes look awesome...for them to come out with these is like a slap in the face to us. Not to mention the amounts of money that we spend.

I've never understood that argument.

It's right up there with folks selling multi-thousand dollar bits of plastic and saying it's not about the money.

I made my suit for myself, because I wanted to.

I've had the luxury that money hasn't really been a limiting factor for me. I could easily have paid someone else to paint it all up for me, do all of the sewing, whatever.

But I did it the way I did because it's how I wanted it.

If people could get a suit that looked *exactly* like mine for $200 I'd be really happy for them!! It wouldn't be a slap in my face. Everything I've done has been out of a desire to do it exactly the way I did. I wouldn't change a thing.

Well, technically, I'd go back in time to when I sold my original MQ-1 circuit board and take that back, since I could use that now. But I digress...

Just like the Rubies Supreme Vader. If I was a Vader, I'd get one just as a trooping suit for high risk events (places where my multi thousand dollar vader could get damaged)

I'd LOVE to see someone make gauntlets so amazing that everyone dumps their FP gauntlets into the cargo hold for fire sale prices so that I could finally snag a set. Oh, wait, digressing again!

*pwned*


Ouch.

Personally, I can't wait to see them at Comic-Con this July. I am now for the most part done upgrading my Jango but it is still exciting to see the props that get put out for the general public. The MR Boba helmet wasn't perfect but it was still a nice display piece for those who don't have the painting skills to have a masterpiece like some of the members here have. I will likely stick with what I made and got from TDH but seeing the stuff done by other companies is always exciting.

Even if they have access to actual costume parts, I doubt LFL would allow "accurate" reproductions of the parts 100%. It's likely that they will make a few changes to diffrentiate them from actual suit parts in some way.

One of the things is that, the original was held together with velcro, and was made of vac formed plastic. I'm sure there will be a durability issue, so items may be made of thicker, and more rigid material. Then there is the wearability, parts will be changed to make them more wearable.

Then there is price.... the Rubies "delux" stormtrooper was unveiled for $800.. for something very mediorcre at best. If their costumes are supposed to be a cut above... what dose that mean in price. I know people put more than that into a suit, but will the price of buying a suit be worth it if it means you have to spend extra money in repainting and "fixing" what's considered to be wrong with it.

I'm sure there will be people who are eager to just buy something that they can just pull outta a box and throw on and consider themselves part of the gang. It's funny how people consider fan made costumes to be of a different level to those that are bought complete. It's like an athelete who trains hard to be great at their sport, as apposed to those who just take steroids

I mean, when the Rubies Vader came out, people questioned if it would be accepted by the 501st.... Now they have stormtrooper armor in the works, and the same question is coming up.

How many people are going to join the TDH when they buy a completed costume? Would they even bother if they have no plans to alter it?

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

ahhhhh I see..., not a vader guy...
and I think these will be slightly better

Not a Vader guy either, I meant to the Vaders we have in the Legion

My argument was, that people like me, and all the fett heads here, spend a small fortune on Fett, to make it look the best. But I am not refering to the fact of the money, I am refering to the hard work that we put into this.

I had no problem dropping the money I did, to put my costumes together. Sure it was painful, but it was for my hobby, and for all the people at the events.

Originally Posted by Satxer

My argument was, that people like me, and all the fett heads here, spend a small fortune on Fett, to make it look the best. I am refering to the hard work that we put into this.

I had no problem dropping the money I did, to put my costumes together. Sure it was painful, but it was for my hobby, and for all the people at the events.

i don't think any mass produced product could ever look as good as something that was labored over for months by someone who really loves it.

that's why i don't get why folks mind when a mediocre, pre-packaged product comes out. it doesn't devalue what we do, it doesn't really change anything.

i've seen a lot of folks use the rubies vader as a gateway to greater things. you start out that way and move up from there.

those that are happy with the rubies suit as-is wouldn't want to spend thousands and years on a super suit. those that want the super suit would never buy a rubies. so it's just catering to 2 different niches, and may serve as a "gateway drug" to suck some in to our madness!

i think the museum replicas stuff will be similar. it will be nicer than halloween costume, not as nice as TDH, and may inspire some people to bigger and better things.

oh, and the really cool part is that we're all used to saying "MR", so if museum replicas takes over, we can still do that

Originally Posted by tk7602

i think the museum replicas stuff will be similar. it will be nicer than halloween costume, not as nice as TDH, and may inspire some people to bigger and better things.

well said.

oh, and the really cool part is that we're all used to saying "MR", so if museum replicas takes over, we can still do that

Yeah, that would be a bonus.

I like a lot of Star Wars Master Replicas stuff. I just got a ROTS Clone helmet, real nice, I have to say that I am very impressed with it.

Originally Posted by fettpride

So why not cheer them on, and hope for the best, not their failure ???

FP

Easily the most productive thing said in this thread. FP.....

I for one have become very scenical about anything "costume" related on a mass-produced scale, but if they're talking armor too, that may be something worth holding out hope for.

Maybe I won't sell off my Snowtrooper armor after all

Steve

whooaa! Now lets see what they can do.

Just to throw my thoughts in on this...I doubt if the new items are going to be close to accurate as say, what BM has in his display mannequin. Or what Superjedi can do with a paintjob. And that is just two examples of the superb talent on this board. But in those cases, we're talking very talented people with a lot of time, skill, and LOVE to put into their gear. Now, having said that, does it automatically mean you're going to get something ******? No. Does it mean you'll have a 501st costume straight out of the box? VERY unlikely. But could it be the chance for people to get a great BASE costume, esp one that with a LITTLE modification could be used to troop in? (I don't know about you guys, but sometimes when I accidently bump into a wall or a snag the jet pack on something at an event and I remember how much cash I've got tied up in what I'm wearing....I shiver...)

*IF* someone (and I'm not necessarily saying Windlass would be the one) could mass produce a costume (any costume) that met 501st standards, I say GO FOR IT. Heck, I'd probably buy one myself! Would it take away anything from my Boba? Nope. That costume has my sweat, tears and blood (and that last one literally; careful with those dremels) in it. Personally, I hope they come out with some great stuff!

And of course, if its lousy, then we can all shamlessly trash them.

Charlie

I am going to predict they get this right!!

Bottom line is they have access to the archives....

and I think they will listen to the experts

the only problem will be making a product that turns a profit..I hope they dont sacrifice quality for bottom line margins

I would NEVER buy anything for my hobby that is mass produced by a company, it takes all the fun you have by building your costume away

I would hate to say ''nah I didnt make it myself, I bought it''

a Boba Fett suit with pre painted/made parts ''junk''= very expensive

a Boba Fett suit made/painted by yourself= priceless
being a member of TDH and learning things to make your suit= priceless

Ruben

Not to mention isn't it fun to tell an unaware fan how your costume came to be? Instead of just saying "Ya, I spent XXXX ammount of dollars on it from store called SWBoxmart." I'd much rather support someone else's work, that actualy cares for the product than get a prop replica which I'm sure is great, but just won't be the same.

first time i read about it, i was kinda excited. but come to think of it, all it is, is another area for Lucas to cash in.

I really wouldn't worry about it, it will be **** for sure. And if the 501st excepts it, shame shame, maybe it will be time to quit the 501st if that day comes. There is some good info on this subject over on the RPF. Anyway they will NEVER put the detail and accuracy into these costumes that we do and for sure they will use inferior materials because it's all about making money to these people, not the love for the hobbie and Star Wars.

Such an interesting array of opinions here... I have to say, I find it a bit funny that many of the people who hammered the MR helmet and basically blew it off have great hope and expectations for these pieces. Will be nice to see something new but I think it will have the same old probs any other mass produced pieces have. The big thing will be whether scans will be made, which will give these pieces lineage or whether they will simply be sculpts which will really give us nothing new as we already have amazing sculpts available from members here on the board.

To be honest folks it's all up to LFL what they so goes no matter. They insisted the PP3 was the hero helmet in ESB and told MR you will produce that paintjob. No expert or input will change their mind. About the biggest thing I ever got them to agree on was redoing the Rocketpack for the Sideshow Fett, man that first one was terrible! and they were basically done with the sculpt and when they presented it to LFL Sideshow said our guy wanted us to change the pack and LFL said "your guy is right"..so redo it.

Lee

I think (and hope) it will be awesome!!

For the cod lover in you. They still have plenty of these.

Here is my worry, and you all can tell me if it is well founded or not. I am afraid that this is going to end up driving talented artists so far underground that no one except close friends will be able to get any decent fan made items. I can see GL sending out a bunch of C&D orders since he now has someone making "high-end" (or whatever you want to call it) costumes. "Now discuss amongst yourselves." (A SNL quote if you don't watch mutch TV)

Originally Posted by FettFanatic

Here is my worry, and you all can tell me if it is well founded or not. I am afraid that this is going to end up driving talented artists so far underground that no one except close friends will be able to get any decent fan made items. I can see GL sending out a bunch of C&D orders since he now has someone making "high-end" (or whatever you want to call it) costumes. "Now discuss amongst yourselves." (A SNL quote if you don't watch mutch TV)

This is certainly a possibility but I think there will be little change. Think of this: I really can't think of any C&Ds resulting from MR's licensing although the prop community openly replicated many of the same things they offered officially. I think of all the clone armorers and such. While we might think of ourselves as having an impact within the community, in the overall scheme of potential buyers for a company like Windlass, we are a frop in the bucket and the sales from our makers doesn't add up to much. I believe it will be those selling openly in large venues like eBay that are more likely to feel LFL's wrath.

Yeah I had thought of the MR thing as well. I just worry that since if would be complete costumes and not just pieces that LFL might get in a huff. Oh well. I guess we will just have to wait and see. However, I am openly sending out my resume to anyone taking on new close friends. Just joking around of course.

I AM openly sending out my resume to anyone taking on new close friends, and I'm not kidding.

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

This is certainly a possibility but I think there will be little change. Think of this: I really can't think of any C&Ds resulting from MR's licensing although the prop community openly replicated many of the same things they offered officially. I think of all the clone armorers and such. While we might think of ourselves as having an impact within the community, in the overall scheme of potential buyers for a company like Windlass, we are a frop in the bucket and the sales from our makers doesn't add up to much. I believe it will be those selling openly in large venues like eBay that are more likely to feel LFL's wrath.

I think Braks is 100% right on this...I don't think any makers, at least on this board, should be concerned. ...

Originally Posted by Brak's Buddy

This is certainly a possibility but I think there will be little change. Think of this: I really can't think of any C&Ds resulting from MR's licensing although the prop community openly replicated many of the same things they offered officially. I think of all the clone armorers and such. While we might think of ourselves as having an impact within the community, in the overall scheme of potential buyers for a company like Windlass, we are a frop in the bucket and the sales from our makers doesn't add up to much. I believe it will be those selling openly in large venues like eBay that are more likely to feel LFL's wrath.

I have never considered any of the members here a "frop" , but now that I think of it, yes, we are all nothing but a bunch of frops..

I can only imagine how awkward it will be for the guys here who have those spot on Fetts, to see some guy or gal in their Windlass costume at a con. It will kinda be like the time you went to your cousin's house... You know, the slow one. Your mom told you to go play with him, and you really didn't want to, but your mom gave you her angry face when she told you to go play. So, you go, and you kinda just basically stand there for a while, wondering when you' re going to ride bikes, because, ya know, he is wearing a helmit. It isn't until , like, an hour later, when you realize, you're not going to ride bikes, and you ask him.. "Hey, why you got that helmet on?" and he jumps up and screams something like "Ping Pong!" and just about tackles you running out of the room. ... It will be just like that, that's how you'll feel.

Originally Posted by Spideyfett

I thought you weren't into costuming Lee??...after all this is a "costume" company.

My interests are recreating a wardrobe piece.


Lee

Originally Posted by fettcicle

I have never considered any of the members here a "frop" , but now that I think of it, yes, we are all nothing but a bunch of frops..

I can only imagine how awkward it will be for the guys here who have those spot on Fetts, to see some guy or gal in their Windlass costume at a con. It will kinda be like the time you went to your cousin's house... You know, the slow one. Your mom told you to go play with him, and you really didn't want to, but your mom gave you her angry face when she told you to go play. So, you go, and you kinda just basically stand there for a while, wondering when you' re going to ride bikes, because, ya know, he is wearing a helmit. It isn't until , like, an hour later, when you realize, you're not going to ride bikes, and you ask him.. "Hey, why you got that helmet on?" and he jumps up and screams something like "Ping Pong!" and just about tackles you running out of the room. ... It will be just like that, that's how you'll feel.

I really hope not! but you paint a great picture...

Alot of answer can be read here.

It sounds promising. Jango armor!!!!!!!


http://www.windlassstudios.com/t-lan...interview.aspx

Originally Posted by SEEKER

Alot of answer can be read here.

It sounds promising. Jango armor!!!!!!!


http://www.windlassstudios.com/t-lan...interview.aspx

Thanks for the link!

It looks like well get a taste of what some will look like at Comic Con.

Hmmm...Well hopefully we see some Cade Skywalker (or mabey just EU) action, because honestly, I'm never going to even attempt to do his leather coat.