High End Licensed SW Armor / Costumes Coming Soon

Vable Boba · Feb 22, 2008

Well, I'm excited to get to see these things when they are unveiled, and at ComicCon, up close when I'm there in the summer. You never know...although I'll prolly never get one, cuz I'm sure the price will be through the roof.

Satxer · Feb 22, 2008

What bothers me most, as I am sure the Vader's were upset with the supreme being released, is that we put a lot of time and effort into making our costumes look awesome...for them to come out with these is like a slap in the face to us. Not to mention the amounts of money that we spend.

Spideyfett · Feb 22, 2008

Satxer said:
What bothers me most, as I am sure the Vader's were upset with the supreme being released, is that we put a lot of time and effort into making our costumes look awesome...for them to come out with these is like a slap in the face to us. Not to mention the amounts of money that we spend.

Saxter, I don't understand your statment? :confused

fettpride · Feb 22, 2008

Saxter is referring to he Rubies "Supreme" Vader. A $500 monstrosity. Great for a halloween gig at a private costume party where n one would know the difference. I believe I've seen 501st members wearing them :facepalm

But again, we're talking about RUBIES

It was supposed to be their jump into "Collectors Quality" ... or "Museum Quality". They even had the audacity to advertise that the suit was from the original LFL molds from ROTS

This made me buy it to get a look at it :facepalm MAYBE the belt buckle, and PERHAPS the shin sculpt. But nuttin else. Again tho, RUBIES !

FP

Spideyfett · Feb 22, 2008

fettpride said:
Saxter is referring to he Rubies "Supreme" Vader. A $500 monstrosity. Great for a halloween gig at a private costume party where no one would no the difference. I believe I've seen 501st members wearing them :facepalm

But again, we're talking about RUBIES It was supposed to be their jump into "Collectors Quality" ... or "Museum Quality". They even had the audacity to advertise that the suit was from the original LFL molds from ROTS MAYBE the belt buckle, and PERHAPS the shin sculpt. But nothing else.
FP

ahhhhh I see...

, not a vader guy...
and I think these will be slightly better.

fettpride · Feb 22, 2008

Yeah, I can't wait to see what they do with Vader. I really hope they do the ROTS first, it's still my favorite, even though I reaally don't care for the prequels. ( ok, ok, let the rifle squad take aim ...... and .....)

FIRE !

FP

stormtrooperguy · Feb 22, 2008

Satxer said:
What bothers me most, as I am sure the Vader's were upset with the supreme being released, is that we put a lot of time and effort into making our costumes look awesome...for them to come out with these is like a slap in the face to us. Not to mention the amounts of money that we spend.

I've never understood that argument.

It's right up there with folks selling multi-thousand dollar bits of plastic and saying it's not about the money.

I made my suit for myself, because I wanted to.

I've had the luxury that money hasn't really been a limiting factor for me. I could easily have paid someone else to paint it all up for me, do all of the sewing, whatever.

But I did it the way I did because it's how I wanted it.

If people could get a suit that looked *exactly* like mine for $200 I'd be really happy for them!! It wouldn't be a slap in my face. Everything I've done has been out of a desire to do it exactly the way I did. I wouldn't change a thing.

Well, technically, I'd go back in time to when I sold my original MQ-1 circuit board and take that back, since I could use that now. But I digress...

Just like the Rubies Supreme Vader. If I was a Vader, I'd get one just as a trooping suit for high risk events (places where my multi thousand dollar vader could get damaged)

I'd LOVE to see someone make gauntlets so amazing that everyone dumps their FP gauntlets into the cargo hold for fire sale prices so that I could finally snag a set. Oh, wait, digressing again!

fettpride · Feb 22, 2008

*pwned*

Ouch.

ChaosHelljumper · Feb 22, 2008

Personally, I can't wait to see them at Comic-Con this July. I am now for the most part done upgrading my Jango but it is still exciting to see the props that get put out for the general public. The MR Boba helmet wasn't perfect but it was still a nice display piece for those who don't have the painting skills to have a masterpiece like some of the members here have. I will likely stick with what I made and got from TDH but seeing the stuff done by other companies is always exciting.

fettcicle · Feb 22, 2008

Even if they have access to actual costume parts, I doubt LFL would allow "accurate" reproductions of the parts 100%. It's likely that they will make a few changes to diffrentiate them from actual suit parts in some way.

One of the things is that, the original was held together with velcro, and was made of vac formed plastic. I'm sure there will be a durability issue, so items may be made of thicker, and more rigid material. Then there is the wearability, parts will be changed to make them more wearable.

Then there is price.... the Rubies "delux" stormtrooper was unveiled for $800.. for something very mediorcre at best. If their costumes are supposed to be a cut above... what dose that mean in price. I know people put more than that into a suit, but will the price of buying a suit be worth it if it means you have to spend extra money in repainting and "fixing" what's considered to be wrong with it.

I'm sure there will be people who are eager to just buy something that they can just pull outta a box and throw on and consider themselves part of the gang. It's funny how people consider fan made costumes to be of a different level to those that are bought complete. It's like an athelete who trains hard to be great at their sport, as apposed to those who just take steroids

I mean, when the Rubies Vader came out, people questioned if it would be accepted by the 501st.... Now they have stormtrooper armor in the works, and the same question is coming up.

How many people are going to join the TDH when they buy a completed costume? Would they even bother if they have no plans to alter it?

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :facepalm

Satxer · Feb 22, 2008

ahhhhh I see..., not a vader guy...
and I think these will be slightly better

Not a Vader guy either, I meant to the Vaders we have in the Legion

My argument was, that people like me, and all the fett heads here, spend a small fortune on Fett, to make it look the best. But I am not refering to the fact of the money, I am refering to the hard work that we put into this.

I had no problem dropping the money I did, to put my costumes together. Sure it was painful, but it was for my hobby, and for all the people at the events.

stormtrooperguy · Feb 22, 2008

Satxer said:
My argument was, that people like me, and all the fett heads here, spend a small fortune on Fett, to make it look the best. I am refering to the hard work that we put into this.

I had no problem dropping the money I did, to put my costumes together. Sure it was painful, but it was for my hobby, and for all the people at the events.

i don't think any mass produced product could ever look as good as something that was labored over for months by someone who really loves it.

that's why i don't get why folks mind when a mediocre, pre-packaged product comes out. it doesn't devalue what we do, it doesn't really change anything.

i've seen a lot of folks use the rubies vader as a gateway to greater things. you start out that way and move up from there.

those that are happy with the rubies suit as-is wouldn't want to spend thousands and years on a super suit. those that want the super suit would never buy a rubies. so it's just catering to 2 different niches, and may serve as a "gateway drug" to suck some in to our madness!

i think the museum replicas stuff will be similar. it will be nicer than halloween costume, not as nice as TDH, and may inspire some people to bigger and better things.

stormtrooperguy · Feb 22, 2008

oh, and the really cool part is that we're all used to saying "MR", so if museum replicas takes over, we can still do that

Spideyfett · Feb 22, 2008

tk7602 said:
i think the museum replicas stuff will be similar. it will be nicer than halloween costume, not as nice as TDH, and may inspire some people to bigger and better things.

well said.

Satxer · Feb 22, 2008

oh, and the really cool part is that we're all used to saying "MR", so if museum replicas takes over, we can still do that

Yeah, that would be a bonus.

I like a lot of Star Wars Master Replicas stuff. I just got a ROTS Clone helmet, real nice, I have to say that I am very impressed with it.

DL44 Blaster · Feb 22, 2008

fettpride said:
So why not cheer them on, and hope for the best, not their failure ???

FP

Easily the most productive thing said in this thread. :cheers FP.....

I for one have become very scenical about anything "costume" related on a mass-produced scale, but if they're talking armor too, that may be something worth holding out hope for.

Maybe I won't sell off my Snowtrooper armor after all

Steve

METALLBOY · Feb 22, 2008

whooaa! Now lets see what they can do.

charlie · Feb 22, 2008

Just to throw my thoughts in on this...I doubt if the new items are going to be close to accurate as say, what BM has in his display mannequin. Or what Superjedi can do with a paintjob. And that is just two examples of the superb talent on this board. But in those cases, we're talking very talented people with a lot of time, skill, and LOVE to put into their gear. Now, having said that, does it automatically mean you're going to get something crappy? No. Does it mean you'll have a 501st costume straight out of the box? VERY unlikely. But could it be the chance for people to get a great BASE costume, esp one that with a LITTLE modification could be used to troop in? (I don't know about you guys, but sometimes when I accidently bump into a wall or a snag the jet pack on something at an event and I remember how much cash I've got tied up in what I'm wearing....I shiver...)

*IF* someone (and I'm not necessarily saying Windlass would be the one) could mass produce a costume (any costume) that met 501st standards, I say GO FOR IT. Heck, I'd probably buy one myself! Would it take away anything from my Boba? Nope. That costume has my sweat, tears and blood (and that last one literally; careful with those dremels) in it. Personally, I hope they come out with some great stuff!

And of course, if its lousy, then we can all shamlessly trash them.

Charlie

DarthMiller · Feb 22, 2008

I am going to predict they get this right!!

Bottom line is they have access to the archives....

and I think they will listen to the experts

the only problem will be making a product that turns a profit..I hope they dont sacrifice quality for bottom line margins

Rogue Studios · Feb 22, 2008

If they scan it it would be great. Typically their sculptors work from photos. Scanning is expensive and scanning an entire suit would be expensive and not too much fun. But if they do it that would be nice but everyone complained about an MR scan how is this any better? Dave does listen he's a good guy I have spoken to him at length. I wish it all the best to be honest I'm sure it will be recasted and rehashed down the road anyway.

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