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So i was wondering who will be making the clone troopers undersuit ,as everyone seems to been using the standard ST undersuits .
Compare the clones undersuit which is ribbed to that of a ST ...maybe ladysewforus could make them ?? :doh i was just courious about this subject if anyone wants to be a screen accurate clone ;)
Up to this point it has been difficult for folks to replicate. Bulk is a major concern, in addition to over heating. That 's why lot of folks have stuck to Under Armor, for it's wicking properties. I actually have a full blown ribbed undersuit, created by Shadowdale productions. I tried it on once, then took it off as I immediatly started to sweat and overheat. I would love to see what materials can be found, that work similarly to Under Armor, but can also retain the appropiate ribbed effect. I think Sci-Fire was looking into this awhile back.
I have been considering giving this a try, but I am still over booked with the orders I currently have. Does anyone have good screen accurate pics?
How much interest is there in a more SA Clone Trooper undersuit? Sounds like Replicant Shadow's SA ribbed undersuit is not too practical
For something that is only noticed up-close, and can't be seen in photos, I don't see the need for trooping. A ribbed undersuit would cook the wearer.
Under Armor is the way to go.
While I would agree with clone six for those who troop a lot, would it not be possible to create an undersuit that was thin in the hidden areas and ribber in the areas that are obviously seen, or is the armor too open for this and you would be forced to go all ribbed? Is there anything we could do to simulate the ribbing without going for full-blown, padded, non-breathable sweatsuits?
I use something similar to these (in black of course), thermal ribbed underwear, seperate tops and bottoms. The ribbing isnt as thick as I would expect it to be, but they are ribbed - if thats the effect that people are looking for.
http://outersports.com/mens-white-10...ar-p-2947.html
They are often hard to find at times other than wintertime, so look in stores now if you want to try them. The only downside is that I often get my velcro snagging on them.
I also have a typical motorbike undersuit, which tbh I prefer to wear becuase of the snagging issue.
I don't think those longjohns would work since they're thermals and that would mean anybody wearing those would cook really fast unless it's really cold out.Quote:
Originally Posted by edgejedi
I wonder if anybody with serious sewing skills could possibly modify some Underarmor type suits by adding ribbing with something like strips of foam. Of course it might just be easier scratch building a seat from a moisture wicking material but I'm not sure that you can buy bolts of that kind of material anywhere.
Well, in the Army we just got these new tops that we are supposed to use when we are deployed. We wear these when we will have our protective gear on, so it will keep the heat down, but still give us the pockets and such we need.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5529/dsc0281if1.jpg
Its sleeves are normal ripstop material, but then an underarmor like lycra material on the back and abdomen. I figure making 2 piece undersuits like that wouldnt be too hard.
Interesting, I think it is do able.
*thinking*
:)
Here is what the guys at Sci-Fire have as far as ribbed under suits are concerned. It looks like they are just gonna cover the parts that show and the rest will be the regular ST under suit. I think this is great idea Sci-Fire!
http://www.sci-fire.com/Images/DSC05887.JPG
http://www.sci-fire.com/images/DSC07817.JPG
Can someone post some screen caps?
Hi Debbie,
Here are a few screen caps. Hope this helps!
http://www.studiocreations.com/howto.../ct_yoda04.jpg
http://www.studiocreations.com/howto...s/ct_med03.jpg
http://www.studiocreations.com/howto...s/ct_med01.jpg
http://www.studiocreations.com/howto...yconsole02.jpg
http://www.studiocreations.com/howto...nd_linedup.jpg
I think that the combat shirt style undersuit idea is a good one, it makes a lot of sense in that helps keep you (relatively) cool while maintaining the ribbed look seen on screen. Seeing as how both the Army as well as the Marine Corps issue/authorize a version of these for their troops would seem to me to be a pretty indicator that it works fairly well.
What about printing lines on an under armor type fabric?
This is the closest I could find http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/p...oducts_id/1872
Unfortunately they are only available to UK & Ireland.
If people wanted them, think you could perform a Middle man service dougie?
I have just ordered one myself, will let you know if it's any good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilmore of OK
Just received an email from them saying they no longer stock them, the search continues!!
....youve obviously not been to the UK for some time :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Riceball
Ive worn them at indoor and outdoor troops and not had any problems or 'cooked' - at all. Bearing in mind that they are the only things that would be worn under the armour I cant see a problem (unless you wear anything to 'beef' up your look like a muscle suit too...which of course would cook you...).
Like the phrase says 'Go Commando' mate :D
A guy locally just uses a ladies black ribbed sweater.
hmmm.. i thought this would a tricky subject thats why i brought it up :D
but what with the guys at sci fire might prove something yet ;)
So, would you say the ribbing runs vertically, except for the neckseal, which runs horizontally?
It SEAMS to me that this would be best as two piece, a shirt and pants.
So we would need a neckseal, attached to the shirt. For the shirt the
sleeves, and yokes of the shirt would be ribbed. The main part of the chest and back could be a mesh, or cooling material. Does any ribbing to show on the sides of the torson? How important is the ribbing around the waist area?
For the legs, the ribbing is needed almost completely on the pants.
The only way to add a little air circulation for the pants would be, basically, strips of mesh material down the front and back of the legs. The rest would need to be ribbed.
Suggestions?
please forgive the awful paint attempt....
What about something like this......
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...CLONEARMOR.jpg
Hmmm I like it. Have you ever concidered doing a Biker Scout?
yeah this is the idea Debbi of your drawing vertical strips ;) and yes the neck seal would be attached to the undersuit too..shame it cant be made as one whole item or can it ??
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Originally Posted by LadySewforus
The main parts to focus where the ribbing shows as from the photos from AOTC is in between the armour areas with this being said the ribbing certainly shows more around the clones upper chest/neck - neck seal areas.
Okay. First off no laughing. This is what my buddy and I use under or clone trooper armor. Yes it is ladies clothing, but it was the closest material we could find. It isn't that bad on the heat side due the looser weave.
http://www.roamans.com/clothing/Rib-...&pref=cs&pos=2
They have pants, shirts, tunics, etc. We bought pants and shirts plus a tunic all in black for extra material to make the neck piece. I just hemed the pieces for a better fit and cut off the excess. I am sure Debbi could do a much better job with it, but it works and is really close to the look.
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Originally Posted by Boomer Fett
LOL, You know I am working on that too! For YOU!
:)
is the biker scout undersuit, the same as this one?
That would work Debbie, but what kind of material? This would probably resemble Vader's black suit that most Vader costumers wear including the mesh. I'm thinking maybe making it with cotton fabric with the pipes sewn with batting material to puff them up a bit. :?Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySewforus
It would seam to me that it has to have some stretch. I was thinking more along the lines of lycra somehow. I would have to play around with it. Maybe a cotton lycra.
Hey everyone I like the ideas being thrown around! I worked on the Sci-Fire prototypes and and have been working a few new patterns! These are the pics of the latest prototype!
http://sci-fire.com/images/DSC09283.JPG
http://sci-fire.com/images/DSC09278.JPG
I've got some more fabric on order to try some different things out, one actually has the the ribbing in it already! But well see what it looks like when it get here! I'll keep you posted on progress!
Hey Lee,
That under suit looks perfect! What type of material is it? Hopefully it's breathable fabric coz it is definitely a match! Thanks for the info!
The reference I have suggests that there is either no ribbing at all on the neck seal or the ribbing is vertical on the neck seal. The horizontal lines are just folds from excess material.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySewforus
Thats what ive seen too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxbatkllr
How thick/heavy is that material? Will it absorb sweat pretty well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thundercat337
This is what I use. The Craft undersuit partially achieves the ribbed look; the spacing between the lines is not as wide as I'd like them to be. Had to use a Sharpie black pen to remove the white threads. Got them from Backcountry and Trisports awhile back ago. Am looking for alternatives.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/...6ce71342c3.jpg
Another option, don't know if there are matching pants.
http://www.argear.com/craft-prozero-zip-t.html
That Craft logo and zip might prove a problem though!!
WOW Awesome work Thundercat337 ...makes me wanna be a clone now :lol
cant wait to see more on work ;)
If you're wearing a separate neck seal then both the logo and the zipper would be pretty much no issues since the neckseal would cover both up completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougie Fett
THIS LOOKS GREAT TO ME!!
No need to try to improve on perfection!
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Originally Posted by Thundercat337
Thundercat337 - Im breathless. Awesome work.
any update on this Thundercat please....? I noticed on the site it now says '*Clone undersuit is back on track!'
hmmmm yeah any updates on the undersuit ??
I definitely would love to use the ribbed undersuit as well. But the main question is, how breathable is it and am I going to go from around 165 lbs presently to 145 lbs from loss of sweat while wearing it lol
I've been hunting for a ribbed undersuit for ages ( like everyone else here ). Thundercat if these are being made count me in bro.
Nice work.
Darren
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Originally Posted by Null-11
People who wear a Vader costume have the same problem but they manage to survive. I want a ribbed suit too... I love Thumpy's results!!
Customsprops is selling clone undersuits on ebay, though they look very suede-leathery, I dont think they're that bad, the same guy that makes the vader undersuits.
Here is how I have my undersuit
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51...eelding030.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51...eelding029.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51...lding012-2.png
(Mine isn't a customprops undersuit by the way, it's custom made)
What I like about the thicker jumpsuits/underarmor, is that you can use snapbuttons to connect it to your armor, I've trooped several times like this , I avoid using straps as much as possible , on the other hand it's very warm indeed when your living in warmer regions.
Oh man, you're right, costume's base is selling a nice undersuit! And it has an affordable price. I have dealt with him a couple of times before and it has products with a good relation cost-quality.
Is there anything wrong with that undersuit? ... I think it's quite good.
I think I'll take one. Anyone else will do it too?
....the costume base suit looks really loose and not at all close fitting. The ribbing also looks way too wide to me.
I think his sizing charts need some serious attention. Ive heard from many people that the sizing charts are wildly inaccurate when they get the items. I'll stick with my bikers undersuit till I see something better come along....
http://www.extremeracing.co.uk/storm...r/prod_10.html
I don't mind my body glove fitted Under Armor. I prefer the classic Stormtrooper look over the ribbed look anyway. Not technically canon, but oh well