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  1. Sarim Thiri's Avatar
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    Jun 29, 2007, 4:39 PM - Swords #1

    Hey hey.

    I was wondering, is it possible to make a SW style sword that can be used against master replica's/other lightsabers... the material selection that is, so it would not break?

    Has anyone done this before?

    Thanks.
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    Jun 29, 2007, 5:27 PM - Re: Swords #2

    It might be possible if you were to use a perspecs plastic. Its a clear plastic and very hard and you can sand it also. If needed you could prime it and spary it any colour you like. I was going to make a Vibro Blade using it, but never got round to it. Hope that helps...
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    Jun 29, 2007, 10:04 PM - Re: Swords #3

    It would need a full-tang spring steel core inside it to keep from breaking under the stress. Hard plastics are strong, but it will break under the weight and force of being swung. The plastic is very dense, and will want to keep the momentum, since it isn't very flexible, it will break rather than flex. With a steel core (even a thin one), the plastic will have enough rigidity to overcome the momentum problems. The last 6 inches or so should be hollowed to keep the weight toward the hilt.

    There is also an instructable for the led chain here http://www.instructables.com/id/E5T8SENAFMEP286RG7/
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    Jun 29, 2007, 11:05 PM - Re: Swords #4

    Thanks a lot guys!

    Would be cool to be able to fence with a lightsaber carrying Jedi using a sword
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    Jun 30, 2007, 3:36 PM - Re: Swords #5

    Just make sure you round off the edge. Besides a safety procaution, it would also be nice so it doesn't damage the lightsaber blade
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    Jul 2, 2007, 5:30 PM - Re: Swords #6

    Do you mean Vibroblades or Lightsabers?
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    Jul 2, 2007, 8:13 PM - Re: Swords #7

    Vibroblades, swords, Beskade, electro-staffs.. everything that's canonized to be able to block sabers, so one can carry a sword and fence off with Jedi mates, without using a lightsaber... I'm into that on lightning speed, haha!

    - Decided to provide a list of swords and functions with in-universe info on them -

    Info on materials that can resist a lightsaber blade:

    * Cortosis
    * Beskar (Mandalorian Iron)
    * Phrik

    Info on swords and blades:

    * Vibroweapons
    * Sword
    * Electrostaff

    - Ok, maybe you have read this and such... but hey, we all have lazy and bored days... I had one of the bored one's today -

    Thanks for the advices, and will do torag
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    Jul 3, 2007, 4:02 PM - Re: Swords #8

    Quote Sarim Thiri said: View Post
    Thanks a lot guys!

    Would be cool to be able to fence with a lightsaber carrying Jedi using a sword
    Yeah in SW a Lightsaber can cut through anything but another saber.
    But you don't see me going to Ren Faires and fence people with my Luxeon.
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    Jul 3, 2007, 4:05 PM - Re: Swords #9

    Quote Sarim Thiri said: View Post
    Vibroblades, swords, Beskade, electro-staffs.. everything that's canonized to be able to block sabers, so one can carry a sword and fence off with Jedi mates, without using a lightsaber... I'm into that on lightning speed, haha!

    - Decided to provide a list of swords and functions with in-universe info on them -

    Info on materials that can resist a lightsaber blade:

    * Cortosis
    * Beskar (Mandalorian Iron)
    * Phrik

    Info on swords and blades:

    * Vibroweapons
    * Sword
    * Electrostaff

    - Ok, maybe you have read this and such... but hey, we all have lazy and bored days... I had one of the bored one's today -

    Thanks for the advices, and will do torag
    EU needs to stay out of the things already made into the SW universe.
    Sabers can cut through anything, but another saber, and that is how it should have stayed.
    A metal can't withstand it, just some comic book author decided to make something up and now it is "canon"
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    Jul 3, 2007, 4:48 PM - Re: Swords #10

    Remember the guards from revenge of the sith?

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    Jul 3, 2007, 6:12 PM - Re: Swords #11

    Quote The Clayster said: View Post
    EU needs to stay out of the things already made into the SW universe.
    Sabers can cut through anything, but another saber, and that is how it should have stayed.
    A metal can't withstand it, just some comic book author decided to make something up and now it is "canon"
    Yeah, but it's LFL approved canon. We've also never seen a lightsaber cut through mandalorian armor in the films, only in the areas NOT covered by armor.
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    Jul 3, 2007, 6:48 PM - Re: Swords #12

    LFL doesn't approve anything that conflicts with established information from the movies. And it isn't mentioned anywhere that lightsabers can cut through anything, that would be just like saying Jedi were invincible... and what's the fun in that? Every single faction/being must have a weakness, or something to equalize at the very least.

    And note that not all swords/mandalorian armours are lightsaber resistant, only those made from the rare materials cortosis, beskar or phrik.

    Boba Fett doesn't wear a true beskar'gam (armour), he wears one made from duraplast, but as known - Boba isn't a mandalorian (at least not until later on).
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    Jul 4, 2007, 2:49 AM - Re: Swords #13

    Quote Sarim Thiri said: View Post
    LFL doesn't approve anything that conflicts with established information from the movies. And it isn't mentioned anywhere that lightsabers can cut through anything, that would be just like saying Jedi were invincible... and what's the fun in that? Every single faction/being must have a weakness, or something to equalize at the very least.

    And note that not all swords/mandalorian armours are lightsaber resistant, only those made from the rare materials cortosis, beskar or phrik.

    Boba Fett doesn't wear a true beskar'gam (armour), he wears one made from duraplast, but as known - Boba isn't a mandalorian (at least not until later on).
    I am not even gonna bother.
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    Jul 4, 2007, 4:23 AM - Re: Swords #14

    First, Boba is a mandalorian. He was raised as one, even if Jango was killed when he was only 10 years old, many cultures consider boys at around that age to be full men, thus, a Mando.

    Also, lightsabers "virtually" cut through anything. Some material are to dense for a saber to cut through, and you need enough strength to cut through them. I.E. remember in the beginning of ep1 when Qui-Gon didn't just continue cutting a circle, or start a new one, when the Trade Feds closed the blaster doors?

    Cortosis, for instance, is so dense that it can short out a lightsaber if held in a position or in a slow cut, because the dense material/molecules would restrict/stop/reflect (take your pick) the blade's energy particles. Although the same is true for Mandalorian Iron, it's effect at blocking a lightsaber or shorting it out is less then that of Cortosis.

    Different materials, density, and molecular make up can effect a saber in different ways. So take your pick.

    Oh, and electo-plasma swords are supposed to be lightsaber "resistant". A Dathomar Witch was able to withstand Maul's sabers for a while I believe, and was to have preceeded the lightsabers for the sith: (go "histories" then "M" and go to the bottom of the page(sorry it won't let me directly link))
    http://www.thelightsaber.com/IndexFolder/index2.htm

    I know most of your already know this, I'm just throwing it out there cuz I'm bored, and I used too have WAY to much time on my hands.
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    Jul 4, 2007, 5:50 AM - Re: Swords #15

    Quote NovallTalon said: View Post
    Yeah, but it's LFL approved canon. We've also never seen a lightsaber cut through mandalorian armor in the films, only in the areas NOT covered by armor.
    George Lucas canon is movie only. Boba Fett died at the Sarlaac.

    Lightsabers also create an intense amount of heat, if you're "indestructible armour" was hit, the alloys would attract heat. I'd rather be stabbed than to have a piece of metal at such an intense heat on my body.
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    Jul 4, 2007, 8:59 AM - Re: Swords #16

    Quote GCNgamer128 said: View Post
    Boba Fett died at the Sarlaac.

    You're a mean person and you say mean things
















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    Jul 4, 2007, 10:41 AM - Re: Swords #17

    Quote GCNgamer128 said: View Post
    George Lucas canon is movie only. Boba Fett died at the Sarlaac.

    Lightsabers also create an intense amount of heat, if you're "indestructible armour" was hit, the alloys would attract heat. I'd rather be stabbed than to have a piece of metal at such an intense heat on my body.
    Yeah, and the abstract heat behind the blade would be over 1000F, so do you really want to argue the semantics of how jedi keep from setting themselves on fire? The fact of the matter is that IT's A CUSTOM MANDALORIAN, THERE IS CITED EXAMPLES IN MOVIES (see above pic), IN NOVELS, AND COMICS.

    The perfect SW universe in your head isn't the same everyone else wants to be in.

    Sheesh...
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    Jul 4, 2007, 10:48 AM - Re: Swords #18

    I didn't want to start a debate here, but what's done is done. GL Canon or LFL Canon - it's all combined, in one way or another.

    I agree with NovalTalon -
    The perfect SW universe in your head isn't the same everyone else wants to be in.
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    Jul 4, 2007, 1:10 PM - Re: Swords #19

    i agree with novall and sarim, star wars canon is just that regardless of who its from

    but you should try making that weapon that grevious' guards used in ep 3...that would be an awesome project!

    edit: on second thought...i think im actually gonna try and make that staff
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    Jul 4, 2007, 11:41 PM - Re: Swords #20

    Quote NovallTalon said: View Post
    Yeah, and the abstract heat behind the blade would be over 1000F, so do you really want to argue the semantics of how jedi keep from setting themselves on fire? The fact of the matter is that IT's A CUSTOM MANDALORIAN, THERE IS CITED EXAMPLES IN MOVIES (see above pic), IN NOVELS, AND COMICS.

    The perfect SW universe in your head isn't the same everyone else wants to be in.

    Sheesh...
    1000F oh of course, you're a little low with that number. The fact that it IS A CUSTOM MANDALORIAN doesn't mean that one can't take advice from another. If you guys want to run around and cosplay with "swords" in Mando helmets, go right ahead, I have a blaster at my side.
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    Jul 5, 2007, 2:29 AM - Re: Swords #21

    Quote GCNgamer128 said: View Post
    The fact that it IS A CUSTOM MANDALORIAN doesn't mean that one can't take advice from another.
    What you have to say is well documented in this thread, just like everyone else's. No one is blocking out what you said, it's all in plain sight, for other's to read and take advice from as they see fit. Also, maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see any advice from you in this thread. Maybe I missed it, and if I did, I'm not afraid to admit my mistakes, but all I see is you expressing your view of what "canon" is, nothing advice-like anywhere. Also, if you were speaking in general, and not reffering to this thread specifically, I'm sorry for my misunderstanding.

    Quote GCNgamer128 said: View Post
    If you guys want to run around and cosplay with "swords" in Mando helmets, go right ahead, I have a blaster at my side.
    We can't forget the main point of a hobby, which is to have fun. It's not fair to have someone trooping with a blaster when they'd much rather be holding a vibro-sword, just because another thinks it looks stupid. Just don't hang around them if you feel that strongly about it.

    That's nice that you have your blaster, and you can keep it. No one's forcing a "sword" into your hands.
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    Jul 5, 2007, 3:24 AM - Re: Swords #22

    I had a chance to study an MR blade. It's basically a polycarbonate (read: plastic) with a string of LEDs in them.

    Making something with a steel core -- depending on how thick and how much mass the blade will have -- might be too much for an MR blade to handle.

    But it might be possible to vacuum form two halves of a cortosis blade and then glue them together such that it is hollow. The halves would have to weld very well if it is to take some impact from an MR blade. But anyways, that is how a lot of halloween costume swords are made.
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    Jul 5, 2007, 3:39 AM - Re: Swords #23

    I think a mandalorian with a sword would be awesome! You could get all up close and personal with the enemy before you start carving off limbs....lol. Any way, I don't know if this is any help, but it clarifies that Mandolorians (i know technically death watch) used blades (at least in this story anyway).
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    Jul 5, 2007, 4:51 AM - Re: Swords #24

    A melee weapon was the traditional weapon of the Mandalorians, and never went out of use.
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    Jul 6, 2007, 2:39 PM - Re: Swords #25

    And since every Mandalorian has his own specialty and expertise, there are sure also (vibro)swordfighters among Mandalorians, apart from the usual snipers, armorers, demolition or tech experts, to name only a few.

    You might wanna see the concept of a Mandalorian swordmaster (Mandalorian Supercommando era) DarthKuk (or KukMan, he isn't on these boards) and I have worked on. Nothing for building a costume, it's just a character art for an OC from my Mando fanfiction:

    http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42372821/

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