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    Jun 30, 2010, 1:22 PM - IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #1

    Hi all,
    Trying to find out if the white BOBA FETT , Supertrooper is 501st approvable??
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks for the time,
    AL
  2. Jun 30, 2010, 1:57 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #2

    Been wondering the same. I believe the rule of thumb is 3 separate, known instances within the canon lore of the SW universe that a particular character would be deemed acceptable for approval.
    Last edited by Replicant Shadow; Jun 30, 2010 at 4:26 PM.
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    Jun 30, 2010, 7:53 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #3

    I asked the "Legion" about this , (since I am GML for both of you two)
    This is the response I received from Dean;

    Your inquiry, along with photos of the applicant's costume (when ready), go here:

    http://www.501stforums.com/forum/vie...=29110&start=0

    "But he hasn't started the costume yet."

    We hear this a lot, and I think Thomas's general response is "Why would one require 501st eligibility if one wants to build a costume? You build a costume for your own personal enjoyment."

    I agree. If you want to make this pre-pre-production Fett because you like the way it looks, go for it! Fans will appreciate it and you'll likely be the star of many an event. You'll probably even make it onto starwars.com or the Star Wars Insider and folks on the RPF and TDH will praise you. Sounds like a worthy pursuit to me.

    Will you be able to claim a Legion ID number or add it to your 501st.com profile? Maybe not, but if you are just looking to add more 501st costumes, then go with the safe bet of one of the established categories.

    Note: My personal opinion is that this particular Fett is more like a "sketch" rather than a final product that is well-established in the Star Wars canon, and therefore wouldn't fit our M.O.


    So, that is the Legion answer right now.
    I think it's garbage myself.
    especially Dean's "personal opinion" about it being a sketch.
  4. slave1pilot is offline slave1pilot
    Jun 30, 2010, 7:54 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #4

    Quote Replicant Shadow said: View Post
    Been wondering the same. I believe the rule of thumb is 3 separate, known instances within the canon lore of the SW universe that a particular character would be deemed acceptable for approval.
    That also no longer applies.
    This rule was established by the former LMO.
    The Current LMO does not abide by that policy.
  5. Jul 1, 2010, 1:53 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #5

    Thanks for the info Nathan!
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    Jul 1, 2010, 5:29 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #6

    Sketch? There are photos of the actor in costume. Push this one and there should be no reason why you cant get a BH#. Especially when they constently refer to TDH as the best authority on what is the "standard" for Boba's 501st guidelines. If not, who cares? That is a sick suit and you'd be hard pressed to find a garrison that wouldn't love to have you troop with them.
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    Jul 1, 2010, 8:18 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #7

    By "skech" he means a concept or prototype of the character, which IS in fact what the Supercommando suit actually is: A conceptual sketch in 3D, physical form.
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    Jul 1, 2010, 9:41 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #8

    Sorry, but if someone who weighs 350 at 5'3" can get approved as a TK or a tie fighter pilot..... There is no reason this shouldnt get approved. I figure it this way, if Lucas approves it to be put out as an action figure, it should qualify. I've seen people approved for Boba, wearing ROTJ armor, pre-pro gloves, ROTJ JP, ESB cape and helmet, without one ounce of dirt/weathering on their suit. Just my .02, though.
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    Jul 2, 2010, 9:46 AM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #9

    I am tending to lean on the side of the supertrooper here since there is licenced busts, action figures and more than just "sketch" artwork for sale regarding the character straight from the SW website.

    Some characters can get in by their appearances being canon in several mediums, i hear but when you get a GG bust and an action figure and have your artwork sold at auction for $$$ then we arent talking some EU sidecharacter.

    Supertrooper is a historical stepping stone to the Boba Fett and stormtroopers we know today.
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    Jul 2, 2010, 5:19 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #10

    Respectfully, it's amazing how much you guys are missing the point.

    It isn't about whether a person who happens to be a little heavy (or thin) to be allowed to wear a costume if it's accurate, it's about if the suit is actually the character as established, or an idea of how he could have looked. If a Supertrooper is shown in a canon source or if Boba was ever shown to have worn the white suit, like maybe in the upcoming live action series, then it will immediately be allowed.

    As for the stepping stone you are right, but it was just one stone on the road to what was eventually becoming Boba Fett. Nothing else... so far.

    This is not a 501st approved Vader is it?

    Why not? It says: Darth Vader doesn't it?
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    Jul 2, 2010, 5:26 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #11

    So, in other words, its absolutely okay to approve a completely inaccurate Boba suit, just for the sake of having a Boba in a garrison... But out of the question to approve a super accurate pre-pro version? And if that's true, then 'splain me this.... Why are there approved Jodo Kast's and Pre-pro 1 and Pre-pro 2 Boba's within the legion? Last time I checked, I never saw one in ESB or ROTJ?

    So, respectfully, maybe it's the Legion missing their own point...

    I like you MD, you know that, so am not trying to be a jerk here..... but I think 501st is and has been having some serious double standard issues here.
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    Jul 2, 2010, 6:10 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #12

    If there are Pre-Pro's in the Legion, then I agree the ST should be let in. I myself have never seen one or any mish-mash Fetts in any of the troops I have been involved in nor do I watch the Legion site to see what is in these days. I guess I am only familiar with their old rules.

    And Dsonik1, you've always hated me. ^__-
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    Jul 2, 2010, 6:53 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #13

    I see you Dsonik

    Not to mention the fact that if you are going by media references alone and "established characters" then SURELY we need to have characters from "Droids" placed into trooping rotation?

    I argue alone on the side of historical reference and not even as part of EU which i dont consider ANY of the prepro scetchwork to be. But if some group such as "lucas" wanted to licence the fancier products based on those items then rightly so you have advanced character placement.

    HOWEVER we DO see the concept vader in the COMICS.
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    Jul 2, 2010, 7:47 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #14

    Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that we are all arguing what is ostensibly, a mute point. The powers that be have to correct rectal-cranial inversions for anything to change. Look at how long it took for TD's to finally be able to get their number without carrying a backpack and Lewis gun or DLC-19.... And that alone hurt the MEPD's numbers for a long time.
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    Jul 3, 2010, 9:54 AM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #15

    FIXED:
    Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that we are all arguing what is ostensibly, a mute point. Those guys have to correct rectal-cranial inversions for anything to change. Look at how long it took for TD's to finally be able to get their number without carrying a backpack and Lewis gun or DLC-19.... And that alone hurt the MEPD's numbers for a long time.
  16. Jul 3, 2010, 9:05 PM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #16

    It probably wont be 501st approvable, but it would definitly be Mandalorian Mercs approvable.
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    Jul 4, 2010, 1:54 AM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #17

    I can understand the ST not getting approved, but since pre-pro's can...then what argument can they have, since the ST is REALLY Pre-pro 1. Are they allowing the Pre-pro cause of the LFL parade with Vader?

    Here's a better question - You guys think they would let in a Holiday version?? I mean he is quasi-yet-denounced-via-ego canon, with a toy and other pieces of art. I mean hell, Kal Skirata is now troopable and approved ( thank god!), despite a very stretched set of references.
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    Jul 4, 2010, 4:25 AM - Re: IS SUPERTROOPER 501ST APPROVABLE? #18

    As Spanner mentioned the Mandalorian Mercs would most likely approve of it as long as you stuck to their CRLs, which in other words means a Supertrooper would get in easily. As the Mando Mercs are also officially approved by Lucasfilm ltd, if you get their approval, it would be fine to wear it.

    I also know that in several states of the US, the 501st and the Mercs have cordial relations and usually invite each other to functions and events.

    There are also people who are members of the mercs and the 501st as well, so perhaps, whilst you are working on convincing the 501st to accept your armour, you join the Mercs and troop anyway. The Supertrooper is a piece of Starwars history, even if it is a pre-production "sketch", though if you remember they did publicise the Super troop and describe it as a "prototype" on starwars.com, here's the link http://www.starwars.com/episode-v/bt...ex.html?page=2

    Hope that helps

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