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  1. Ram'ser's Avatar
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    Jun 7, 2007, 1:14 AM - Neo Crusader #1

    i'm thinking i might do a neo-crusader type mando(as seen in KOTOR 1&2) but i'm not too sure where i'd get some good patterns.
    Ideas?Has anyone else done/tried this?
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  2. I helped at SDCC '08 NovallTalon's Avatar
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    Jun 7, 2007, 7:09 AM - Re: Neo Crusader #2

    You can also try getting multiple pics from Star Wars Galaxies as crusader armor is in that game. Atleast that way you can get close-ups and such.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 7:49 AM - Re: Neo Crusader #3

    This is one armour that has always scared me, at least the thought of doing it/putting it together. I love it, very "antique" feel to it as far as mando goes, but the major problem i have with it is how you would possibly move your neck in it?

    Everything else looks as far as comfortable as armour gets, but that helmet completely obscurers your head movement. Anyone got any ideas to help this guy out? if you could sort out moving your head in this one, you could be all set to start on it.

    Best of luck tho, let us know how you go with it
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    Jun 7, 2007, 7:52 AM - Re: Neo Crusader #4

    The bottom of the helmet would have to be something like leather, then from the chin up you could have the actual hard helmet. That way the neck would flex enough to let you move it some.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 11:53 AM - Re: Neo Crusader #5

    I am sorry to say it, but this armor is impossible.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 11:58 AM - Re: Neo Crusader #6

    I don't think it's impossible, you would just need to reconsider material choices. I think it would need to be more like a latex mask than a helmet. That's just my opinion on it all though.

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    Jun 7, 2007, 12:16 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #7

    Quote eighteendelta said: View Post
    I don't think it's impossible, you would just need to reconsider material choices. I think it would need to be more like a latex mask than a helmet. That's just my opinion on it all though.

    -x
    No seam on all the costume.
  8. I helped at SDCC '08 NovallTalon's Avatar
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    Jun 7, 2007, 12:21 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #8

    The SWG version has in my opinion a much better graphic detail of NC armor. I would suggest getting some screen shots of that and working with it, that way you can get all sides and see exactly how things fit together.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 2:06 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #9

    Quote The Clayster said: View Post
    No seam on all the costume.
    I think the costuming community would make allowances for creative solutions. Well some of the costuming community at least.

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    Jun 7, 2007, 2:18 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #10

    maybe start thinking along the lines of modifying a Royal Guard helmet for this? No, you wouldn't be able to turn your head, but it sure would look cool.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 2:39 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #11

    There was a thread on the RPF where this was already done. I will try to find it.

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    Jun 7, 2007, 2:39 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #12

    for the neck, yes use leather, with the hard helmet like normal, but get it all flowing, use the leather up to that strip in the middle/top of the head, or better yet have that be leather too, and have the side connected only to that for a better flow down tothe shoulders.
    Is this armor in any other game other than ST galaxies? If so, I might be able to rip out the mesh, or at least get really good reference pics straight from the game engine.

    In the next couple weeks, I could probably model out a rough idea or two. Just gotta get through with HS graduation.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 2:41 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #13

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    Jun 7, 2007, 3:11 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #14

    Here's some stuff to point out NovallTalon's idea.

    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...orianKOTOR.jpg
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...1/mando8uo.jpg
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...sswg1683oz.jpg

    and also, it may not look like there are seams on the game models, but trust me, the color changes on the helmet, cloth or not, would probably have a seam. game engines jsut work that way. mst of the detail is in the textures, not the models. If you've played Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, take a look at Kyle's shirt strings near the collor. It's all painted onto the texture, and isn't even mdoeled out.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 3:43 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #15

    that would be a very cool project to get started on...i think its possible..just a lot of hard work...

    good luck!
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    Jun 7, 2007, 8:02 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #16

    That helmet doesnt even look close to it, it looks good for a custom Royal Guard.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 8:14 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #17

    why so much hate, clayster? hes just interested in building a neo...and which helmet are you refering to...the mandalore neo crusader? or the regular neo crusader? i think both are considred NC...and either one of them would be a great project
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    Jun 7, 2007, 9:19 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #18

    Probably because it came from me.


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    Jun 7, 2007, 11:03 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #20

    If I did this, the helmet would only be a solid piece on the top "mowhawk" portion, then a stretchy nylon material for the sides of the head. Or a Leather material. then you could have it stretched out properly on a harness under the vest. You would not want to stretch it out too much though. This is just my 2 cents. I didn't read each post in depth, so if someone already suggested this, my bad! Good luck! Not sure how you would see out of that small "snout" looking peice on the helmet.
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    Jun 7, 2007, 11:19 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #21

    I must say that I like the SWG version of the neo... the t-visor is larger and I think this would be the best version for a costume. The helmet could be a blunter bullet-like shape then the rest over the top of the dome down to the shoulders could be leather or a stretchy leather-like vinyl coif. Here is an example of what I (as well as what I think Toragh and some others) mean. The tan color would be the soft parts, the silver/gray would be the hard part of the helmet:



    It would look awesome of you could get the soft parts right.
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    Jun 8, 2007, 5:00 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #22

    You could possibly modify a Darth Revan mask, and use for this project.





  23. Ram'ser's Avatar
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    Jun 8, 2007, 10:28 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #23

    thanks for the ideas!
    i think i'll use latex,leather,and a hard hat-ish thing and might use strips of metal for support so it won't collapse and warp
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    Jun 9, 2007, 3:26 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #24

    Quote TantiveIV said: View Post
    why so much hate, clayster? hes just interested in building a neo...and which helmet are you refering to...the mandalore neo crusader? or the regular neo crusader? i think both are considred NC...and either one of them would be a great project
    I am not hating on anyone, so keep those comments to yourself or PM me about it.
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    Jun 9, 2007, 3:27 PM - Re: Neo Crusader #25

    Quote eighteendelta said: View Post
    Probably because it came from me.


    -x
    Who are you?
    The only place I have seen you active is in the thread about Recasters, this has nothing to do with that, you are just paranoid that everyone hates you.

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