Need advices for an "unarmed" custom mando

I want to create a custom mando armor, with only gauntlets & built-in weaponry, but a mando with empty hands is not very impressive. So that is the question: What kind of non-weapon prop can I carry instead of the Blaster?

To give you some ideas, it will be an Imperial-affiliated mando, especially from the Imperial Departement of Military Research, specialist in Diplomacy, spying, steal of technologies and infiltration missions.

A shovel. It isn't a weapon and it isn't a blaster It's also good for making a latrine

not true shovels were used and still are used today as weapons in combat you can hit better with a shovel then a knife =D


hmm unarmed maybe bladed guantlets? and a few flamethrowers?

No bladed gauntlets. perhaps flamethrowers. only electrical shocking gloves, a little blaster in the right gauntlet, but activated by a button on the arm (like Buzz lighlear), a little harpoon thrower (also on the right gauntlet), and it is approximately all.
A flashlight in the helmet, and perhaps I will attach my armor on a climbing harness.

By the way, my left gauntlet will be fitten with a micro computer (unfunctionnal) and a computer plug like R2.

::jaw drops::..... i plan on the whole micro computer and R2 jack for my custom mando... well you wrote it first me guess

Ryck blades would be cooo, but if you don;t want to hold a weapon a force pike OR a walkin staff could look good

how about a Stun Baton...the baseball bat of star wars

-wulfie

Hmmm... no stun baton, I will already have eletric shocking gloves, who will be perhaps semi-functionnal, working with capacitors. let's shake our hands, and I'll change your hairstyle!

Oh, I see. No handheld weapons. You could go Preditor or gundam and put some guns around the chest area or put 'em on the waist. forehead blasters, automatic shoulder blaster cannon, ect. It's all good

dude you could do the blaster cannon back pack, like the one clone from the star war clone wars series did.... that would be awsome

No, it's not my intention. If I have weapons, they are limited to the gauntlets and the gloves. I don't want to looks like a walking armoury, and it is the opposite sense of my costume. My character is before all a diplomat and a specialist of infiltration, not The Terminator.

For the backpack, I already have an idea, but it is classified Top Secret

What about a data tablet. Like a PDA or something

I was thinking about using something like this
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html...sin=B00008RUQJ

That would be an interesting RF replacement. Acctually, a wrist mounted datapad ain't such a bad idea. Considering that SW is far more technologyicaly advanced, a small data pad to them is probably like 3 super computers to us (give or take). Dart launcher, wrist mounted blaster (rapid fire perhaps?), flamethrower, maybe a long range stun weapon (since you already have the electro gloves for short range/CQC), an ejectioble blade or an underarm swing blade like this:
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/w/l...-armyknife.jpg
http://www.mahq.net/MECHA/GUNDAM/bee...gf13-021ng.jpg
Perhaps you can uses a short one of those and find a way to conceal it. The ejextible blade and whatever blade that Jango used in ep2 on kamino i think would work best though

kinda like the gundam heavy arms' combat blade ey toragh lol, ah gundam wing how i miss watchin thee for weeks on end, (prolly should watch the series again since its semester break....)you could work something in like the republic commandos hand garud with ejecting vibro blade, ctn has a really great discussion on haw to make a functioning ejectionable blade. i looks relatively simple and cheap. check it out or if you pm me i can try and dig up the link for you.

Hey morpheus, check this out

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no freaking way LOL does it work or is it just for show??

no handheld weapons....still wanna be intimadating...hmmm
CARRY A WOOKIE HEAD BY THE HAIR

check please

Originally Posted by never_risk_the_fett_man

no handheld weapons....still wanna be intimadating...hmmm
CARRY A WOOKIE HEAD BY THE HAIR

Mmmmm...
Not bad, but too bloody for childrens.
but this can be an idea for a wookie costume:

Rather than going with shock gloves etc, perhaps you'd be more interested in the traditional Mandalorian weapon called the "crush gaunt." Some say the gloves Vader wore were crush gauntlets-and anything that can deflect blaster rounds works for me! Whether it was the force or the crush gauntlets doing the deflecting is up for debate, but not worth debating I reckon. I've been trying to find a set of gauntlets-as in those worn by knights etc that would work with my ROTJ wrist gauntlets as crush gauntlets, but I'm not having alot of luck. I'm curious to see your shock gloves, so if they're created already, I'd love to check them out...

Happy Holidays!

there is a sect or "jedi" who wore gloves like that and had swords with a blaster on the tip

i forget there name, but its another "jedi" culture. There gauntlets deflected blasters. is that what we talkin about?

Originally Posted by Dha Syntir

I'm curious to see your shock gloves, so if they're created already, I'd love to check them out...

I'm in the design phase, so they are just in my mind. if you want a pic, I've done a very quick and bad preview in DAZ|Studio. it is just to give you an idea. perhaps they will be linked to the wires of a photoflash, so it will be semi-functionnal. this pic is just a concept, so the definitive prop will be different:

Interesting idea. You could use something like armored biker's gloves for the base and add/modify them. Something like this perhaps?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Armored-Heavy-Du...QQcmdZViewItem
There are alot of different armored gloves around eBay as well.

Thanks Toragh. I'll go to my local biker's accessories shop for my gloves.

Originally Posted by Marx Tandish

there is a sect or "jedi" who wore gloves like that and had swords with a blaster on the tip

i forget there name, but its another "jedi" culture. There gauntlets deflected blasters. is that what we talkin about?

Nope-those folks were from Mace Windu's home world and was in the book "Shatterpoint." I read about crush gauntlets in an issue of Star Wars Insider that had a fairly extensive article concerning Mandalorians in general, their way of life, their past, weapons and armor from their past etc...If you want I can dig through my stack of SW Insiders and see which issue number it was so you can maybe get a back issue or something-Ebay perhaps.

Happy Holidays!

Originally Posted by Dha Syntir

Nope-those folks were from Mace Windu's home world and was in the book "Shatterpoint." I read about crush gauntlets in an issue of Star Wars Insider that had a fairly extensive article concerning Mandalorians in general, their way of life, their past, weapons and armor from their past etc...If you want I can dig through my stack of SW Insiders and see which issue number it was so you can maybe get a back issue or something-Ebay perhaps.

Happy Holidays!

I believe it was issue #81, I've been trying to find one since about a month after it came out.

i found the vibro blade design that leeran at ctn did for toragh it has a pic and a how to with it but the who page is about the knuckle hidden vibro's so thanks to toragh and others because i will not take credit from others work.

http://clonetroopers.net/Forum/index...hl=vibro+blade

what about some kind of small computer, about the size of those binoculars from the movies. it's not a weopon and something reasonable for a diplomat to be carrying

It was my first idea, but I'll already have a built-in computer, so I want something other.
I've done a quick search on wookiepedia in the "Technology" and "Tools" article, but it is difficult to found ideas without any pics

By the way, did something knows something about the repulsive boots of the Nimbus commandos from the battle of Jabiim? (if you have any pics, they will be very useful)

A mando without any weapons, wheres the fun in that?

I say go with the data pad

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Data_pad

maybe downgrade? if you haven't noticed technology is making everything small and built in. if you didn't build everything in, you could carry something.

I have the Battle of Jabiim" comic but my sister swiped my scanner. If I remember correctly, didn't they use a type of rocket boot, or was it a repulsorlift kind of technology? That'd be some ride! I'd probably be the unfortunate one who's boots jetted off in opposite directions...

How about a rock launcher on your wrist? They had that on Thundercats. hahaha. In your hands you could carry a suit case labled Death Star Schematics. It could even be handcuffed to your wrist.

wookie head all the way...

Originally Posted by zombierepellent

maybe downgrade? if you haven't noticed technology is making everything small and built in. if you didn't build everything in, you could carry something.

In the first post of this thread, I precised thet it will be an Imperial mandalorian affiliated with the Imperial Departement of Military Research. So he will be the tester for some new prototypes, but this is a good advice. I will try to do something.

Originally Posted by Dha Syntir

I have the Battle of Jabiim" comic but my sister swiped my scanner. If I remember correctly, didn't they use a type of rocket boot, or was it a repulsorlift kind of technology? That'd be some ride! I'd probably be the unfortunate one who's boots jetted off in opposite directions...

Yes, they have a kind of repulsorlift technology that allow them to move faster.

Originally Posted by SOLOCHASER

In your hands you could carry a suit case labled Death Star Schematics. It could even be handcuffed to your wrist.

Hey, it can be a good idea! this is actually the best concept I've heard.

I was thinking of a cane; not an old man's cane to help him hobble along, but like the kind that Lucius Malfoy used in the Harry Potter movies. The very top can flip up to reveal a computer screen, displaying information concerning diplomats and political situations. Sensitive information; the kind one would not want on a datapad that anyone could pick up and read.
The very top could be the Imperial logo, which would flip up if you hit the right button.

Originally Posted by Boba_Fett_03

I was thinking of a cane; not an old man's cane to help him hobble along, but like the kind that Lucius Malfoy used in the Harry Potter movies. The very top can flip up to reveal a computer screen, displaying information concerning diplomats and political situations. Sensitive information; the kind one would not want on a datapad that anyone could pick up and read.
The very top could be the Imperial logo, which would flip up if you hit the right button.

Excellent concept. I keep it in mind. thanks.

a cane sounds pretty bad a... but dude if your a diplo maybe no bucket? i see more face to face contact, or redo the T visor idea. Maybe not a bucket but like what gambit had from x-man.

but that cane idea... that is awsome.

No bucket? oh no! A bucket have a strong symboliscism in a mando costume, and I can't imagine wearing a mando armor without the bucket.

For diplomatic missions, the cane is OK, but what about the Infiltration/stealing missions? A multitool cane, or something totally different?

Ok, the cane will be used for diplomatic mission. A Built-in computer and a kind of R2 computer arm will be fitten into, and the handle will reveal a wrapped screen (concept pics will follow).

But I finally think that the cane concept is useless for infiltration missions. perhaps something stuff, but I have no ideas.

By the way, does something have ref pics of the Nimbus Commandos Boots from the battle of Jabiim?

You can use the cane as a storage piece for small and/or foldable items, and the shaft could connect to a blaster, which the blaster's parts are put on the armor in a way that make it look part of the armor instead of as a detachable weapon. There are times with you neeb a good blaster in your HANDS!
EDIT: Oh, here's what you put in the cane, SURVIVAL GEAR! There are some "survival knives" that have a compartment in the handle for survival stuff, like rope and other tool. The blade is useless because it has no tang (the part of the blade that goes in the hilt for stability), but who cares? This is a cane!

And the repulser lift pack would be a better idea, because they can make those things small enough for a carried infantry cannon, and it ain't the big or beefy fromt what I understand. Maybe 1 rocket booster as a back up or added manuverability, or something?

ya know there are lightsaber canes.... that could be an option in some way. you could say it was a gift from the emperor or somethin like that.

In the RC novel Hard Contact, the Mandalorain Ghez Hokan admired the "cleanliness" of the lightsaber, and seemd to have decided to keep it as part of it arsenal, rather then a brief indulgence of exoctic equipment. It's entirly possible that Mandalorians have used lightsabers i nthe past, or lightsaber euivilants, like plasma based energy blades, or working off of some other type of energy. There's also the good old Mandalorian Iron forged into swords, and possible used an an electro-saber (sword with electric energy injected into it, which can fight against a lioghtsaber as if it was a lightsaber, but it doesn't have the same cutting power:
http://www.thelightsaber.com/IndexFolder/index2.htm Look at the bottom, Not exactly, but I more looking at the picture, and I know I've read about sometihng similar that didn't originate from the Sith)

Yes, I really want to carry a lightsaber, but there is a strong resistance from the other board members when some mando want to carry a lightsaber. I'm working on the background story for my mando, and in his homeworld, carrying a lightsaber is rather a mark of honor and defiance against the opression of the Jedis than a weapon (but they are trained to use it ). He will also carrying lightsaber crystals as trophy marks.

I think a micro-lightsaber could be useful.

At this Phase of design, I think that I could have 2 versions of my mando: one for diplomacy, the other for... err... not-so-diplomatic missions!

The mando armor is a supposed to be versitile.

Yes, I keep the same armor, but I can change some parts for specific missions: a long cape and a multitool cane for diplomatic missions, and some other stuff for infiltration, sabotage & stealing, but remember: I don't want to carry any blaster or other weapons excepted a lightsaber, the shock gloves, the gauntlets, and perhaps a micro-blaster in the helmet ("Hands on head, mando!" - "okay..." *PEEEOW!* ).

HEY, the helmet blaster was my idea! at least I thought it was oh well, I'll use it anyways gotta love gundam

Concerning the lightsaber, you stated that you want your Mando to come off as Imperial; many Imperials would avoid wearing a lightsaber, the symbol of the Jedi, who are enemies of the Empire.

good point but even the Royal Guard end up with lightsabers...... well i remmber a comic in which luke fights like 5 gurads with the maul type saber.

Besides. Who says the Imps gota know about the saber... and it's probably not his, but off of a latest victum?.... i mean maybe if vader found out he would throw a tantrum..... maybe

light sabers are awsome and so are mandos which makes fer super awsome but keep in mind the mando with a lightsaber thing as a weapon or a trophy gets over done way too much im not saying its a bad idea or trying to talk you out of it. so please yall dont gimme flak im just saying that you will not be the only one carryin a saber is all, so if you do go through with it be creative and original about it, make your own hilt, carry it diferently anything to make a distinguishment(sp?) as to why you should be carryin a light saber

Originally Posted by Marx Tandish

good point but even the Royal Guard end up with lightsabers...... well i remmber a comic in which luke fights like 5 gurads with the maul type saber.

Besides. Who says the Imps gota know about the saber... and it's probably not his, but off of a latest victum?.... i mean maybe if vader found out he would throw a tantrum..... maybe

The comic that you're referring to would be Star Wars ANH: Infinities, an Alternate Universe tale. Imperial Guards, as shown in the graphic novel Crimson Empire, wield a double-bladed vibroblade, as well as force-pikes. There have been no recorded incidents of Imperial Guards wielding lightsabers in the canon universe.

But that's not the point, really; the lightsaber is the weapon of a Jedi Knight, and that's how the public views it. To a diplomat, image is extremely important; what if he went to a world that was strictly ant-Jedi? It would kill any chance he had of convincing them to do something.
Now, here's an idea that might help: what if he had the saber built into his gauntlet? Instead of a metal blade, like most Mando's have, yours would have a lightsaber blade. Imagine that in a tough spot.

Originally Posted by Boba_Fett_03

But that's not the point, really; the lightsaber is the weapon of a Jedi Knight, and that's how the public views it. To a diplomat, image is extremely important; what if he went to a world that was strictly ant-Jedi? It would kill any chance he had of convincing them to do something.
Now, here's an idea that might help: what if he had the saber built into his gauntlet? Instead of a metal blade, like most Mando's have, yours would have a lightsaber blade. Imagine that in a tough spot.

Ooops! Thanks, I forgot that public opinion is always better than personnal preferences, so I'll try to design something other than the lightsaber. I keep your lightsaber gauntlet idea, it could be useful.

Due to the probational period, a new member have sent me an e-mail in order to avoid the restrictions of posting. here is his reply:

Originally Posted by CuyvulDar73

I had some thought on your unusal but intreging
idea. Since I'm thinking of a custon mando suit myself I have beeen
think of variation for a bit now.
On hand held props: one place you could looks for ideas is any
army/navy surplus store. Just walk down the rows and see all the stuff
soldiers use. Or just go back and watch all six movie(like we need an
excuse to do that) and see what props are used. off the top of my head:
1: The portible sensor module Han used on Hoth while he waited for the search and rescue teams to find him and Luke. Such an item would be helpfull on recon espionauce missions.
2: A corpman's/medic kit. As tough as Mando armor is, there are lots of things that can and do get through it. And although all special forces recieve some level of medical training, most units/teams have a medic with more extensive knowledge/skill.
3: A grapple-hook laucher/assention gun. Sure many Mando's would just hit the jet pack, but sometimes you need to be more descreet/quite when entering a secured compound/target.
4: A tool kit. Just like the medics keeping the Mando in fighting trim, someone has to keep all those fine Mando tools/toys/armor in working order. Every army has it's support units. Ever hear of combat engineers? And if your character is an engineer then you have a build inexcuse for ANY modification/customisations to your armor.
5: A micro-computer. You could be the Electronic Warfare specialist/hacker of your unit. After all, information can be the most powerfull weapon of them all. Look how many times Artoo-Detoo helps out or just saves the day by simple plugging into a terminal(The escape from Cloud City comes to mind).

Those are some ideas for hand held stuff. Anouther plase you could look for ideas are the role-playing gaming books. The Arms and Equipment guild has all sorts of neat stuff in it. On that note, something I though of if I ever get to working on my armor is something I saw in the equipment guild. Right next to the stats for a jet pack they had a repulsar pack. it uses the same anti-gravity technology as landspeeders and speeder bikes. It does not have the speed or acceleration of the jet packs(which is why the jets remain popular with soldiers), but it does have more manuverability, greater range, and is completely silent.
For some missions these quailities would make it ideal.

Well, there are the two-cent rambleing of this would be costumer. hope I could at the very least give some food for thought. Until next blessed be.

Thanks. I'm trying to design some other props, and your advices are interesting. I keep them in mind.

I've been following this thread for a while and it just occured to me:

Work backwards.

Let me explain -

Think of what weapons you'd like, and intergrate them into the armor. Think Robocop - his gun holster was in his leg.

Perhaps your thigh armor has a knife built into it. It may alter the shape of the armor a bit, but it IS a custom mando. Are you planning on carrying a backpack or cape? You can hide alot in there. Perhaps your belt buckle, , a piece from your gauntlet and a portion of your back armor combine to form a sniper rifle. After a 'mission' you can break them down, attach them to the outfit and walk away.

A number of dress uniforms are not complete without a weapon (usually a sword or small sidearm) of some sort.

I'd decide what weapons you'd want, draw them where you'd want them, then design alot of fancy stuff to conceal them.

Just a thought- Hope it helps.

Yeah I'll probably carry a cortosis dagger in my thigh armor, and perhaps other hidden non-lethal weapons. thanks for the advices, I'm already designing hidden storage for some funny stuff.

Originally Posted by Tuskeny21

A number of dress uniforms are not complete without a weapon (usually a sword or small sidearm) of some sort.

OK, you're right. but I want to try surviving without weapons.

Glad I could help, and thank you for quoting me for all to see.

I've just found this pic from SW insider #86 by Tom Hodges et www.comicartfans.com :

I'll try to do some tools. this one can be done with a big pen or an unused rectal thermometer .

In reference to Hokan carrying the lightsaber, why not try something similar to this, but figure out a way to get it into some type of swagger stick? That's always a good accessory for some type of high-ranking offical.
Either that, or figure out how to work a GameBoy or a PSP or something into a more data pad-looking casing and use it to play games and so forth and still remain in character.

I would say go with a beskad (sword of mandorian iron) even if you dont carry it in your hand you can wear it at your waist nd stick your thumbs in your belt like boba.

normally I am very creative but all I can come up with are:
carrying a stealth hoverboard. Someone into stealth wouldn't be wearing a jet pack or clunky boots.

Or a drone for spying-- simple RC car with a specially modded body ( maybe a specialized mouse droid design to emphasize the imperial aspect.

If you really want to carry a non-weapon in your hand? then I agree that some sort of Data Pad would do the trick. You could make it light-up and stuff !

You guys realize that this thread is a few years old right?

naw, it's just over a year old.

But you have a good point. Why revive this?

-Naas