The Mandalorians (our Costumes)

Here's my thing...
Aren't we arguing a retcon'd reimaging of the Mandalorian culture anyway?
I mean - look at the original version of who/what the Mandalorians were supposed to be - and therein - who the stormtroopers were supposed to be... AND therein who Boba Fett was supposed to be. An army of clones based on 100 of the elite of the elite hand picked by Palpatine as his guards/jedi hunters/clone models - not 1.

An entire planet if not system of the best warriors in the galexy who by nature/history loathe the jedi (because of an undisclosed 'history' with them) and lived by a strict code of honor and way of a warrior (very samurai in drive, purpose, and code --- in antithesis of the Jedi who are more a religious warrior - eg Shao Lin Monk/Warrior).

Who is to say what Lucas REALLY intended for an intensive background of the Mandalorians - or if he ever did at all. Isn't that one of the aspects of Boba Fett that made him cool? The mystery of who he was? Why he'd be ballzy enough to go toe to toe with Darth Vader in a seemingly unafraid manner? And why in the bleak series of Marvel comics the coolest issue they may have produced was the background story to the Mandalorians with the other 2 surviving members of the original 100?

See - here's the thing --- ALL this is speculation. Its a retcon based on a background story Lucas has authorized to fill in the blanks for fans like us... all leading up to his decision to use a single Mandalorian model for the clones - something I still cry FOUL over BTW...

Its done for US you see...
For the fanboy/fangirl who THRIVES on information about our beloved Mandalorians.

And therein - who is to say who is right or wrong. I say Lucas' retcon is wrong. And that is why I fully believe if the Mandalorian world/society was as advanced as it appears to be - it would be a structured society based on warfare, military, and a samurai like mantra and code of conduct. Ronin were likely to exist. As were assassins, etc. But that does not mean there would not have been police/enforcers, specialsists, diplomats, etc in the ranks as well. All of them warrior trained and practiced. All of them ready to throw down against whatever foe they faced/unified against. All of them - Mandalorians.
 
In a way you are right, but while we are "defining" the mandalorians as fans, we still have to adbide by the cannon to make cannon.

True- some Mando'ade may have focused on specialities, but they were all equals in each others eyes- no specialists, no rank. The "ronin" of the mandalorians was the Mandalore- their leader. Only by besting him, or claiming the title at his death, would someone replace him.

And if you read Open Seasons, or even The Sith War, it gives us an idea why the Mandalorians are wary of force users. Even reading the wikipedia entry can shed some light on the culture, as it is built by readers after all.

And finally- what kind of warrior race needs a diplomat?!
 
And finally- what kind of warrior race needs a diplomat?!

Simple - the kind sees the benefit of a well spoken and highly respected warrior who is well versed in regards to setting terms of surrender upon those that were just conquered. Maybe a master stratagist. A retired warrior. Someone who has seen battle, and knows how to recover in the aftermath.

After all...

What Mandalorian wants to be bothered by the principles of having to rebuild the civilization they just possibly at least partially destroyed? That's for the conqured to do themselves - as a territory under Mandalorian "protection."
 
Actually, there are less likely old mandalorians- a reason older mandalorians are revered, as a culture that prides itself on warfare, death is a common bedfellow. And while they do conquer, the mandalorians seem to have this effect where the local populations seem to adhere to their culture, as this is a race that has its warrior begginings as the origional inhabitants of Coruscant before conquering Mandalore. It can also be seen as they adopt war orphans to raise as their own.

Basically, its adapt, be killed, or run.
 
What i have done with my Armour is give a nod to the Space Marine chaplains from the warhammer 40K, a leadership "caste" for want of a better description, or a royal Mandalorian. I want the armour to look like it was designed to inspire the troops he had under his command, and keep them fighting if it looks like it would go bad. It's getting there, and is looking rather striking, so hopefully it will come out like how i dreamt of it in my head.


I've never player WH40K but I have always liked the looks of the Imperial & Chaos Marines, their armors & weapons are bloody amazing! You've just given me some ideas for greebles & bits on my own custom mando, time for me to head over to the official site & check out their miniatures agin. Thanks!
 
Why have desert Mandos? wouldn't they just be infantry who happen to be stationed in the desert? Our soldiers in Iraq are called Marines, not Desert Troopers. Police Mandos also seem to serve no purpose in the Mando'ade culture.

I think they were called Journeymen Protectors depending on if Jaster Mereel's full on service before going Mando & Boba Fett's short stint that they wore Mandalorian'ish armor while on the job.

Are there any Journeymen Protector images out there? Maybe one of Ralph McQuarrie''s concept pics for Fett is one?

CONCEPT01.jpg

I'd always figured the helmet in the top left corner is a JP.
 
I believe that the JP's were just an extension of the Mandalorian government, so there's no reason why there armor would be any different looks wise. Perhaps in functionality though.
 
werent the mandalorian protectorate the "police" mandos? and not all mandalorians are warriors look at jango fett he was a farmer before the deathwatch killed his family. also remember that mandalorian is more like a religeion not a people. humans are not the origonal mandos. Jaing's species was. mandalorians are defined by their desire to be the best in combat. and to do what ever it takes to survive.
 
In a way you are right, but while we are "defining" the mandalorians as fans, we still have to adbide by the cannon to make cannon.

True- some Mando'ade may have focused on specialities, but they were all equals in each others eyes- no specialists, no rank. The "ronin" of the mandalorians was the Mandalore- their leader. Only by besting him, or claiming the title at his death, would someone replace him.

And if you read Open Seasons, or even The Sith War, it gives us an idea why the Mandalorians are wary of force users. Even reading the wikipedia entry can shed some light on the culture, as it is built by readers after all.

And finally- what kind of warrior race needs a diplomat?!

i belive you ment shogun here. ronin are master less samurai. the shogun is the general/leader/king of the ronin
 
io thought jaing was a taung?

Me too. Y'know....there's this tiny Saiya-Jin/Mandalorian connection. The Saiya-jin, from Dragonball Z like Vegeta, were a race of super powered mercenaries going from planet to planet conquering them for themselves or their clients. They finally settled on a planet claimed by the Tsufuru-jin, conquered them & took on their technology & culture & mixed it with their own, sorta like how the Tuangs, humanoids & other alien species in SW all came together to form the 1st Mandalorians. Both mercenary groups had distinctive armors, warrior pride & familial dynasties i.e. Fett & Vegeta.

It's wierd how 2 different cultures can get basically the same idea at around the same time but I wonder who thought it up 1st, Akira Toriyama or the early Mandalorian authors working for LFL, or if the idea originates from some real world mercenary army types from past history?
 
yeah i just looked at the pics form prototypes and the pics of taung and well they arnt the same at all the taung look like the preadator if the predator had a human mouth.
 
Yeo, Taung had long faces with small mouths, and no tusks like Jaing had. The Taung were all dead by the time Jaing was born anyhow =)
 
i belive you ment shogun here. ronin are master less samurai. the shogun is the general/leader/king of the ronin

How does a Masterless samurai, have a general/leader/king? :confused A shogun is simply a military rank equivalent to Field Marshal. Shogun led troops, which could on occasion contain a retinue of ronin if they were paid to fight for him, essentially as mercenaries.


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If you really want to discuss the finer points of Japanese culture, I would be happy to do so, but this thread is probably not the most appropriate place for such a discussion. Unless, I suppose, it is kept within the confines of how it relates to the Mandalorians. I think it might make an interesting thread if it could be kept civil in the sarlacc pit.

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