MANDALORIAN PROTECTORS (pics)

Ok, I've read a few old threads over the last few days, even left a comment or two reviving them. The Idea of a Mandalorian Protector project for a future custom is growing on me.

There is some Official Canon/backstory on Fenn Shysa and Tobbi Dala, and the Protectors. They were originally created back in Marvel Comics to shed some light on Fett's past. Their names were mentioned by BF in the Dark Horse comic, Twin Engines Of Destruction. They are also mentioned again in the Legacy of the Force book set. Of course, there is also the Hasbro Comic Two-packs with the re-issues of the old comics. Shysa and his Protectors are also supposed to be playing a big part in the upcoming book, Luke Skywalker and The Shadows of Mindor, coming out this Dec. if I am not mistaken. There seems to be easily enough material to bring at least Shysa, who ended up being a Mandalore mind you, into more of a spotlight, if not the whole Mandalorian Protectors concept.

I know that Hasbro stayed true to the comics with the paint on the two figures, and I also know they were based off "Evolutions" Jango (Shysa) and Boba (Dala). Apparently, for some of you, the idea of a mostly green Mandalorian "Uniformed-Soldier" is not acceptable to you. One guy even stated it made him so upset, he was going to contact Hasbro personally.

I suppose my main goal in this is to raise awareness, spark a discussion, and explore the concept of possibly bringing the Protector "Uniform" up there, to stand side by side with the Jasters, Jangos Bobas and Jodos at 501st events. Before you anti-501st guys/girls shake your head and mumble bad things, read below.

Now for the disclaimer. I am not a dyed in the wool 501st guy. I'm just a guy who has a cheap FX TK kit and has fun with it once in a while. But, if I go the extra mile in time effort and money, I would like it to pay off, and at least be able to do events and parades, and not be told I'm not allowed to wear it to official 501st functions.

If we/I, were to make a case to the 501st, to bring A Mandalorian generic Uniformed-soldier into being, like I said earlier, to march along side the Jasters, Jodos, etc. What am I up against? There does seem to be at the very least, enough references/canon material as Jodo Kast.

I believe this is an idea worth exploring, and I would like as much feedback as you tough crowd are willing to give. This may be the start of something big...or not.

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I like it, I really do!! I say go for it, your doing it for you and not the legion.:thumbsup:thumbsup

It's actually funny you bring this up, because the Cuy'Val Dar and myself at Mercs has been talking about starting up some detachments for Death Watch, SuperCommandos (like from "Open Seasons") and Mandalorian Protectors who may wanna group up in like armor at Mercs events. Would be kinda cool to see a group of one of those walk in at SDCC or DragonCon.

God I'd love to see a group of Death Watch vs SuperCommandos in the real!

I agree that the Mandalorian Protectors appear to be an under-represented section of Mando "history". Although characters such as Fenn Shysa may become more popular and well known due to his recent appearance in RC: Order 66.
We've also been discussing him on KOTE Mandos due to the major difference between his armour and that of other Mandos.

Also, if you have your visual references man...then there shouldn't be an issue getting that set of kit into the 501st.

There is also another Mandalorian Protectors pic out there with 3 who like exactly like Boba.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/st..._Boba_Fett.jpg

So that may be a hard sell for the 501st since the variation is quite a bit different. I think you may be able to get by with singular characters like Tobbi or Fenn, but I don't know enough about how the legion does that to make an educated guess.

I'm overwhelmed by the response so far. Thank you.

Thanks for the big pic. I do have that saved. I left that one out due to the troops in the photo being almost exactly like Boba. the Protectors/SuperCommandos were not Boba look a likes! I also was digging the one guy who was doing the "Grunt Mando" thing, from Open Seasons.

Just to note, I really wasn't digging the Jango belt/holsters/twin Westars on the Shysa figure. I understand it was just a repaint of the Evolutions Jango, but they really should have done him like Dala, (Fett-ish).

Keep 'em coming.

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I agree that the Mandalorian Protectors appear to be an under-represented section of Mando "history". Although characters such as Fenn Shysa may become more popular and well known due to his recent appearance in RC: Order 66.
We've also been discussing him on KOTE Mandos due to the major difference between his armour and that of other Mandos.

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I would love some info on that if you have it. I just saw the hardcover of that new book yesterday at Borders.

It's possible that their armor had variation depending on the squad you were in, with the basic green colors being common throughout the entire ranks. That would make sense why we see them with different colors, Boba could have had his own squad.

Thats just my take on it. There's no real explanation other than artist preference.

Yeah, I think you're right. But, if I were to approach the 501st with the concept, before an actual physical representation of that concept, I'm wondering how they would respond. If mine is the first, and I go off the Marvel comic and Hasbro comic two-pack, does that mean everyone to follow me has to have a set-up like mine to be excepted?

Could I approach the 501st with the idea being, "just let us in if we create similar set-ups to the Shysa/Dala figures"?

There are just alot of variables to be answered. Any 501st guys have any input? Ripcode, Jaster, Jodo 3, etc...

The Legion doing something like this... i'm no expert on their processes either.. but this may open up a whole can of worms they may not want to get into. Like you said, proto-fett, there's ALOT of possible variables. That may make things more.. difficult.

Well, dala & shysa might have a shot at getting into the 501st anyway. Basically, you need at least 2 visual refrences for a character to be considered for 501st. With Dala & Shysa, you have the comics, and now an action figure...so perhaps someday, that may be an acceptable costume for the 501st??? The other idea, about the madalorian protectors, might be a tougher sell. I would talk to the clone emperor. He is a member here, and the LMO for the 501st. If anybody can give you concrete answers about your ideas,its him. Good Luck;)
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Originally Posted by Jango's kid

Well, dala & shysa might have a shot at getting into the 501st anyway. Basically, you need at least 2 visual refrences for a character to be considered for 501st. With Dala & Shysa, you have the comics, and now an action figure...so perhaps someday, that may be an acceptable costume for the 501st??? The other idea, about the madalorian protectors, might be a tougher sell. I would talk to the clone emperor. He is a member here, and the LMO for the 501st. If anybody can give you concrete answers about your ideas,its him. Good Luck;)
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Thanks for your input. I'm way ahead of you, e-mailed Thomas already! I asked him to check out this thread. Maybe he'll make an appearance.

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Originally Posted by Rokeim

The Legion doing something like this... i'm no expert on their processes either.. but this may open up a whole can of worms they may not want to get into. Like you said, proto-fett, there's ALOT of possible variables. That may make things more.. difficult.

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Trust me, I know. But I think this is still worth the effort. I mean come on, another option for 501st approved Mandalorian costumes, who doesn't want that! That would be a victory we could all celebrate.

I found this online, I thought it was pretty cool.

Fenn Shysa enjoyed something of a resurgence of interest on account of a couple wayward references by Andy Mangels in Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Characters and the Boba Fett story, "Twin Engines of Destruction" originally serialized in Topps' Star Wars Galaxy Magazine. Unfortunately not many folk know who the heck he is. Well, look no further!

Fenn Shysa first appeared in the Marvel series in issues 68 "The Search Begins" and 69 "Death in the City of Bone." While searching for Han Solo in the Mandalore system, Princess Leia encountered a super-commando whom she mistook for Boba Fett. In truth he was Fenn Shysa, who served along side Boba Fett years ago, and he's actually an okay guy who was fighting to free Mandalore from the Imperial yoke. Fenn Shysa, his chum Tobbi Dala and Boba Fett are the last survivors of the Mandalorian Protectors who fought in the Clone Wars. Later on in the series after Return of the Jedi, Shysa became a minor supporting player and helped out in a few battles and was something of a rival for Leia's affections (at least in Han's mind anyway).

D20 Stats for Fenn Shysa can be found in issue 9 of Star Wars Gamer magazine.

Fenn's first two adventures can be found in "Fool's Bounty", the fifth volume of Dark Horse Comics' trade paperback series reprinting the entire Marvel run, Star Wars: A Long Time Ago... Fenn's late appearances can be found in volume 7, "Far, Far Away."

Fenn Shysa
The light of the setting sun was a kaleidoscope of reds and greens as it shone through the tangled and humid Mandalorian jungle. Fenn Shysa stood quietly over the simple, unmarked grave of his friend, Tobbi Dala. Fenn laid the helmet of Dala's super-commando armor atop a stake at the head of the mound. The struggle to overthrow the Imperial overlord who had enslaved Shysa's people had finally been won, but at the price of Dala's life. Not since the Clone Wars had Fenn felt a loss so deeply. Fenn reflected that the last time he stood over the grave of a comrade, his life had changed completely. He wondered if it would happen again. The prospect of change brought him little comfort.

Fenn looked up; he sensed someone standing behind him. The number of people in the galaxy who could sneak that close to him was very small. In fact, there was only one. "What are you doing here?"

Boba Fett regarded Shysa coolly and looked down at Dala's grave. "I came to pay my respects."

"You picked a funny time to start caring," Shysa said.

Fett did not answer. "We're the last now," he said.

"No," Shysa said, "you're the last."

"Yet you still wear the uniform," Fett said.

"I am not this bloody suit of armor! Tobbi could never realize that, and I doubt you could either. We did some horrible things during the Wars, but I've come to terms with all that. I can take this helmet off and stare at me face in the mirror. Can you say the same?"

"I know who I am," Fett answered.

"Aye, I'm sure you do," Fenn said.

"I did not come here to fight old battles, Shysa. Dala was one of us and deserves respect."

"And yer bounties, what do they deserve?"

"They deserve what they get. In the end, everybody does."

Shysa turned to Fett. "I hope yer right."

Fett turned and walked away. "I have a delivery to make."

The mando in the center is Boba. It's from one of the SW: Tales comics where Boba is pitting a stranded Han Solo against his Mando trainees, to weed out the best from the worst. Not sure if it's cannon, but that's where the pic is from. You can also tell it's Boba, becuase he's the only one of the three with wookiee braids.

Just thought you'd all like to know.

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Also, if you have your visual references man...then there shouldn't be an issue getting that set of kit into the 501st.

There is also another Mandalorian Protectors pic out there with 3 who like exactly like Boba.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/st..._Boba_Fett.jpg

So that may be a hard sell for the 501st since the variation is quite a bit different. I think you may be able to get by with singular characters like Tobbi or Fenn, but I don't know enough about how the legion does that to make an educated guess.

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I like this as well and think you should go for it - always liked the protectors and Fenn Shysa ever since I read about them in the comics as a kid :thumbsup

I am fairly certain that you couldn't get in with a generic "protector" and definitely not with a protector based on the idea that different squads could have different colors and all that. You're much better off trying a Fenn Shysa. I'd say he has a better shot than even Tobbi Dala just because he's in a bit more. That's if you're going for 501st though. If you're just doing it for yourself then let your imagination go. Also, The Clone Emperor is not the LMO anymore. He used to be, but the website says it's somebody else now. He can still give really good advice, but he's not the guy in charge of who gets in anymore

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Originally Posted by Apollo

I am fairly certain that you couldn't get in with a generic "protector" and definitely not with a protector based on the idea that different squads could have different colors and all that. You're much better off trying a Fenn Shysa. I'd say he has a better shot than even Tobbi Dala just because he's in a bit more. That's if you're going for 501st though. If you're just doing it for yourself then let your imagination go. Also, The Clone Emperor is not the LMO anymore. He used to be, but the website says it's somebody else now. He can still give really good advice, but he's not the guy in charge of who gets in anymore

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Thanks for the advise, I think you're right. I did go to Thomas, he also gave me some good advise.

The only problem I have is that Shysa's uniform should look like Dala's, at least where the Hasbro/Marvel two-pack figures go. We all know the Shysa figure is just a repainted Jango with a different head. Nowhere in the comics did he gunsling two westars! The biggest selling feature to the 501st is the figures, then the comics, then whatever has been published in official gamebooks, novels, etc. You are right about the much more limited info on Dala. He died in the Marvel comic and was only mentioned a few times after, but....he has a much cooler outfit. Maybe I'll research further.

Thanks again for the feedback.

from what I've heard, the hasbro figures are pretty much never used for visual reference. Do not base your costume off of the action figure, stick to the comics

When I did my Commander Thire suit it was based off of the action figure and while spot on the figure alone was not good enought for offical approval.

I would say that the Mando Protectors would NOT be approved since there is a lack of consistant referance data. So as far as the legion goes you up a creek.

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from what I've heard, the hasbro figures are pretty much never used for visual reference. Do not base your costume off of the action figure, stick to the comics

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If what you say is true, that may work to my advantage, (see a few posts up where I stated I wasn't crazy about Shysa's figure representation). But, with these two characters, representing a whole group of soldiers, who for the most part are only talked about and not seen, it would be a shame if the figures weren't at least one part of the reference material submitted for possible Legion approval. Also, there are references to them in the books, but it's words not photos! It looks like I have my work cut out for me!

I really don't want to make this a David (Me) vs Goliath (501st) thing, I just wanted to see if I could do something different and get another Mando approved so I wouldn't be old I couldn't wear it to events.

Don't forget Shysa is also seen sporting this look:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ood_Carver.jpg

Note the complete lack of torso plates, instead having what appears to be a kind of flack vest. The jaig eyes are gone, the shoulderbells are red, the gauntlets are yellow (but do appear to include the built in blasters from the original Marvel image). The gloves have a red version of the Boba "dot" on the back of them and he appears to be carrying a DT-57 heavy blaster similar to that used by General Grievous.

He's also been seen wearing silvery/white plates with a yellow/gold undersuit. I'll try to find the pic...

I don't know much about the Protectors, but with Shysa starting to come back into the EU stories, I agree that you might have a better shot with focusing on him as a costume.

Good Luck--hope it works out ;)

Here's the pic...

Don't get me started on white armor!!!

Thanks for the continued support.

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Just to note, I really wasn't digging the Jango belt/holsters/twin Westars on the Shysa figure. I understand it was just a repaint of the Evolutions Jango, but they really should have done him like Dala, (Fett-ish).

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Action figure collecting and customizing is what led me into costuming... The Shysa was an easy fix... I purchased an extra Tobbi Dala pack and swapped out the legs, then I just trimmed off the Jango Holsters. So, Fenn's got the right legs now. About the easiest "custom" figure I've ever done!

If you don't know about "boil and po" and such, PM me and I'll explain to you how to do it. BTW, I'd post pix of the custom figures I've done over the years but, I don't know where in these forums I could put them. They can be seen at the Mando Mercs and Sandtroopers.com sites.

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Here's the pic...

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My first set of armor was colored off this set of Sysha's armor. =)

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Originally Posted by Jaing Skirata

Action figure collecting and customizing is what led me into costuming... The Shysa was an easy fix... I purchased an extra Tobbi Dala pack and swapped out the legs, then I just trimmed off the Jango Holsters. So, Fenn's got the right legs now. About the easiest "custom" figure I've ever done!

If you don't know about "boil and po" and such, PM me and I'll explain to you how to do it. BTW, I'd post pix of the custom figures I've done over the years but, I don't know where in these forums I could put them. They can be seen at the Mando Mercs and Sandtroopers.com sites.

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If you can locate it, post your Shysa custom figure here. This seems to be the "Official Shysa" page now.

You do know I'm talking about a costume and not a figure, right?

If anyone has scans of Shysa/Dala from the two Marvel comics, please put them up here. I haven't actually seen the comics in person. I'm thinking about heading out to Walmart/Toy R Us this weekend and buy the 2 Two-packs w/comics

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If you can locate it, post your Shysa custom figure here. This seems to be the "Official Shysa" page now.

You do know I'm talking about a costume and not a figure, right?

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I'm aware... I was just saying as the figures were pictured and mentioned. :D

Thanks. I still want to see your figures.

Well, here's the Fenn Shysa. Again, it was a real simple swap so I haven't bothered to post the pix anywhere. Real simple with these Hasbro SW figs. The legs are made of rubber so if you drop em in boiling water for a couple minutes, they will pop right out at the hip sockets. So, I boiled the Fenn and Tobbi and poped each of their legs off. Then I reboiled the Tobbi legs and popped them into the Fenn hip sockets. A couple quick cuts with the razor knife to off he Jango style holsters and viola!

As for the pix of the rest of the figures, I havent seen a thread on these boards that's really condusive to me posting my custom figures. If you're a member on the Mercs boards (we'd love to have a Proto Fett in our ranks BTW!) I can post the link to the boards. If not, you can seem a good collection of stuff I've done in the last couple years, not a complete listing mind you, on my myspace at myspace.com/jaingskirata. It's a public page I don't know if you have to have an account to see them or not.

The more I look at that color scheme for the helmet (like in proto-fett's 2nd post), the more I like it. Anybody who tackles that helmet paint project should check out the color palette and weathering details that Superjedi did on his Y-wing helmet paint-up:

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/f45/rebel-y-wing-pilot-helmet-23951/

Didnt see it posted but here is another shysa pic. Goes against the comic and figure in color scheme.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/st.../FennShysa.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jaing Skirata

Well, here's the Fenn Shysa. Again, it was a real simple swap so I haven't bothered to post the pix anywhere. Real simple with these Hasbro SW figs. The legs are made of rubber so if you drop em in boiling water for a couple minutes, they will pop right out at the hip sockets. So, I boiled the Fenn and Tobbi and poped each of their legs off. Then I reboiled the Tobbi legs and popped them into the Fenn hip sockets. A couple quick cuts with the razor knife to off he Jango style holsters and viola!

As for the pix of the rest of the figures, I havent seen a thread on these boards that's really condusive to me posting my custom figures. If you're a member on the Mercs boards (we'd love to have a Proto Fett in our ranks BTW!) I can post the link to the boards. If not, you can seem a good collection of stuff I've done in the last couple years, not a complete listing mind you, on my myspace at myspace.com/jaingskirata. It's a public page I don't know if you have to have an account to see them or not.

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I like what you've done with him. It looks as if you've boiled that metallicky green paint right off of him! I'd like to see him with a green pack, and not the funny blue Jango repaint arena pack. Also, I like the traditional belt set-up on the Dala figure more than, again, the funny painted Jango belt.

Very nice work.

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The more I look at that color scheme for the helmet (like in proto-fett's 2nd post), the more I like it. Anybody who tackles that helmet paint project should check out the color palette and weathering details that Superjedi did on his Y-wing helmet paint-up:

http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/showthread.php?t=23951

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You are right, it does tend to grow on you.

Hmmmm....

I have seen this helmet done before.

I would have to go looking for it. But a member here has done the Fenn Shysa helmet, and did a darn fine job on it from what I remember.

Baaahhh!!!!

I just searched.

The pics are gone.


Too bad...It was a stellar looking bucket.

I wanna say that some our members modled for some Dala/Sysha illustrations back in the day. If i'm not mistaken, Blastech modled for this one. it was a while ago though, so my memory is kinda foggy.

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Didnt see it posted but here is another shysa pic. Goes against the comic and figure in color scheme.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/st.../FennShysa.jpg

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Baaahhh!!!!

I just searched.

The pics are gone.


Too bad...It was a stellar looking bucket.

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I'd still like to see it if you come across it sometime.

Thanks for stopping by. I hear Florida is nice this time of year!

proto-fett, what's the title of the comic from the first few images you posted at the top of the thread?

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proto-fett, what's the title of the comic from the first few images you posted at the top of the thread?

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Marvel Comics Star Wars 68: The Search Begins, pages 14 and 15.

It Looks like this thread has finally run it's course. Thank you all for the enthusiam, opinions and support. I really think this idea needs to be explored for a real world costume. The green on green look with the distinctive colored helmet really does grow on you, if you think about it long enough! AS you know, one of my original concerns was to determine whether I could get this costume approved by the 501st. It's really not that big of a concern at this point. But, If maybe I do a good enough job on it, maybe I can pave the way for more Mandalorian Journeyman Protectors, and if the 501st wants to take notice, great, if they don't, that's fine.

So, with that being said, I would like some input on how to proceed with a real world representation of this idea. I'm thinking green flightsuit, regular leather colored ebs/rotj belt, green armor and jet pack, and the distinctive helmet with the green, yellow, red and white. Any thoughts on that? I would pretty much base it off Boba, and be very accurate, except for the armor color, and small details that are Boba specific, ie: braids, dents, etc.

Anyway, there is my Idea. Feel free to help me out.

Maybe combine elements from the figure and the comics? Go with the blue/green Jango pack, green suit w/armor, protector helmet colors and add some Jaig eyes and that should be it. You can incorporate and probably get away with it fairly well since details between these sets are pretty few and far between.

Thanks for the advise, although I was thinking all traditional Boba green on all armor, JP, gauntlets and on some of the helmet. Definately the eyes though, good call.

I bought the 2 two-packs with the comics. I was somewhat disappointed with the comics. I expected more good armor/"uniform" pics, oh well.

I like the white armor picture but the most common look he sported in the Marvel books was the more-or-less plain jumpsuited look OrtharRrith posted. I love the raised piping idea.

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I like the white armor picture but the most common look he sported in the Marvel books was the more-or-less plain jumpsuited look OrtharRrith posted. I love the raised piping idea.

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I know, I'm a huge fan of the white armor. I lso know about the "jumpsuit pics". It seems like every picture is different, armor, pack, jumpsuit, etc. There was definately no continuity on comic book character appearances back then! I'll post some shots of the comic book when I have the time. -Thanks for stopping by.

Proto-fett, could you scan all the pics of his armor that are in the comic and post them up? Even bad reference is better than no reference

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Proto-fett, could you scan all the pics of his armor that are in the comic and post them up? Even bad reference is better than no reference

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Yeah, no problem. Except no scanner. What I do is take a digital camera photo, then feed it into my computer, clean them up a little post them. It seems to work just fine! I did that with the Boba and Jodo photos a bunch of posts ago. Give me a day or two and I'll get it done.

awesome, take as much time as you need.

Just wait until you see stuff from late in the series when Cynthia Martin started drawing it. Hoo-hooooo, you're going to see some seriously bad illustrations!

I think the piped, minimally-armored suit would look pretty cool in person, actually.

I just though of something:

Why don't you just join with the FX that you already have and make the Shysa costume based on the version you like. The big thing, at least where I am, is the QUALITY of a costume. As long as it's not an "official" LFL event like the Rose Parade, a Lucas/SW actor's appearance, or a film-canon-only thing like STAR WARS WEEKENDS, etc. you can wear whatever costume anywhere you want as long as it's good. See, I only have a Authenticprops TK so far, but if I happened to make a kick-*** Bossk and wanted to wear it to a con or something, no one can tell me not to. It may not be a 501st approved costume, but I am an official member. And it's well done, I just happened to not submit it.

That's how I've seen it around here sometimes, anyway. And we all get along perfectly.

Hi Proto-Fett,
I´d started with the old marvel comics. Great idea !
Sven

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Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

I just though of something:

Why don't you just join with the FX that you already have and make the Shysa costume based on the version you like. The big thing, at least where I am, is the QUALITY of a costume. As long as it's not an "official" LFL event like the Rose Parade, a Lucas/SW actor's appearance, or a film-canon-only thing like STAR WARS WEEKENDS, etc. you can wear whatever costume anywhere you want as long as it's good. See, I only have a Authenticprops TK so far, but if I happened to make a kick-*** Bossk and wanted to wear it to a con or something, no one can tell me not to. It may not be a 501st approved costume, but I am an official member. And it's well done, I just happened to not submit it.

That's how I've seen it around here sometimes, anyway. And we all get along perfectly.

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That seems to be the general consensus, thanks for the support. I already am a member of the Great Lakes Garrison, just to let you know!

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Hi Proto-Fett,
I´d started with the old marvel comics. Great idea !
Sven

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Sven, they have the binded compiled versions of the entire Marvel run at stores. Comics are fun, Ask any ten yr old!

:albino:thumbsup

Must not be too foggy. That is indeed Blastech!

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I wanna say that some our members modled for some Dala/Sysha illustrations back in the day. If i'm not mistaken, Blastech modled for this one. it was a while ago though, so my memory is kinda foggy.

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Just a note. The image below is not Fenn Shysha... It is Tobbi Dala.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC03859.jpg

Thanks for stopping by. This is kinda my home thread! Of course the above photo is Tobbi Dala. The thread is about the both of them, the Protectors in general, and my idea to turn it into a custom, as well as to get as many people's input as I can with the whole idea.

Looked around but didn't see this on any of the posts.
Found these of Fenn on Flickr . He was at Dragoncon 06
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sci-fig...7594269431353/
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/84/23...ad83f9329c.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/23...6b6bbf46_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/23...0348b871_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/90/23...a48c5763_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/23...eeabae03_o.jpg

Thanks for the links. I'll be looking to do a little cleaner of a job with matching green armor and softparts, without the blue on the helmet cheeks. Oh, and I probably won't be going for that just crawled out of a restaurant dumpster look.

looks like a cool set of armor but, other than the jaig eyes, nothing about it says fenn shysa. i probably wouldn't have even guessed it. it looks like a custom boba.

I disagree, the colour of the helmet fits perfectly with the picture posted by Revolver Ocelot. As does the torso armour, the fact that sadly that is almost all you can see in the picture makes the rest of it conjecture. Okay, yes he could've worn a green fllightsuit and vest, who knows... he may have upgraded to that by now, but if you look at the source material posted in this thread Fenn's colours and look are hardly consistent - He seems to change his look as much as Boba does! So aside from the afore mentioned green softparts, I doubt I would've had much trouble recognising him as Fenn Shyssa rather then Boba

Thanks for both of your input. I have yet to post the additional shots of the two Marvel comics with Shysa I promised a while back, sorry. When I do, you'll see You were right, he changes looks more than a chameleon. It was the bad 70's/80's lack of attention to detail comic industry. If a Shysa comic were to be done now, I'm sure that wouldn't even be an issue!

If I'm not mistaken, that one single fan pic is the only one were Shysa is represented with light blue on the helmet. I'm not digging the blue too much.

The Hasbro figures pretty much nailed the old Marvel comics look that I like. My Suit will in essence will be my interpretation of what a Mandalorian Journeyman Protector would look like. A "General Issue" Mandalorian Protector, if you will. Based off of Boba, not Jango, all green soft parts (L.S.F.U.) and green armor, including JP, Gauntlets and Helmet (all BM). The helmet will have the green/red/white and gold, just like the comics and the figures, with weapons to be determined later.

I appreciate the input, keep it coming.

Here are some of the pics I promised to get up a while ago.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04386.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04383.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04388.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04387.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04385.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04384.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04391.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04392.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04398.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04393.jpg

Fenn Shysa
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04395.jpg

Tobbi Dala
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04396.jpg

Boba Fett (the original Marvel "Backstory" has Boba Fett fighting alongside Shysa and Dala during the Clone Wars)
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04397.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04401.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04402.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04403.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04405.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...l/DSC04407.jpg

Ok, I couldn't resist.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...UL08STORM3.jpg

Is that you in that last pic? Great job with the MR CE

Looking at Shysa's armor; the belly plate seems different to me. In most of the pics it looks like it's not even there and in another pic it looks like it folds out to reveal a pair of blasters

one of our mercs recently completed a very nice looking set of protector armor. i don't think he ever posted the pix on mercs though. i've only seen them on his myspace and star wars space pages. anyway, i'm going to get him to post them here asap.

Just for the record the pic of Fenn with his helmet off and with the blue markings on his helmet ISN'T a fan pic. One of the members of TDH was the face model for it but the artist was commissioned to do the artwork for a Star Wars insider Mandalorian History issue.

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Just for the record the pic of Fenn with his helmet off and with the blue markings on his helmet ISN'T a fan pic. One of the members of TDH was the face model for it but the artist was commissioned to do the artwork for a Star Wars insider Mandalorian History issue.

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I was aware a costumers/fans/TDH members did pose, just not for an official publication! It appears as if my ignorance has come back to bite me! Obviously I've yet to see that issue, although I am looking for it. Thanks.

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one of our mercs recently completed a very nice looking set of protector armor. i don't think he ever posted the pix on mercs though. i've only seen them on his myspace and star wars space pages. anyway, i'm going to get him to post them here asap.

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Sounds good, I look forward to seeing it. It would be only fiitting for him to be here, since this is the world's foremost Braintrust on all things Protectors!

If I'm not mistaken, my Myspace page link is below, hit me up on there. I'm sure we already are friends. Maybe forward his profile to me, if you can.

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Is that you in that last pic? Great job with the MR CE

Looking at Shysa's armor; the belly plate seems different to me. In most of the pics it looks like it's not even there and in another pic it looks like it folds out to reveal a pair of blasters

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Yes it's me. That MR CE helmet does make all of the difference in the world. Now I don't feel like a bobblehead! Now, if I could only get my armor to cooperate!

Yes, I saw the fold out belly blaster. If I'm not mistaken, some of the early sketches for Boba had that as a feature, and it made it to the RMcQ figure. Like we've discussed here before, you'll never see the same clothed and accessoried character the same way twice. The creators of the old Marvel comics weren't that worried about attention to detail!

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Don't forget Shysa is also seen sporting this look:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ood_Carver.jpg

Note the complete lack of torso plates, instead having what appears to be a kind of flack vest. The jaig eyes are gone, the shoulderbells are red, the gauntlets are yellow (but do appear to include the built in blasters from the original Marvel image). The gloves have a red version of the Boba "dot" on the back of them and he appears to be carrying a DT-57 heavy blaster similar to that used by General Grievous.

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Whoa!!!! were is this from ,can anyone tell me?

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Whoa!!!! were is this from ,can anyone tell me?

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Wizards Of The Coast Star Wars Gamer 9 - Race for the Tessent

I've done alot of looking into the story of the Mandalorian Protectors, and they seem like a more ragtag band of men trying to organize as a Mandalorian fighting unit than an army of Mandalorians rallying to the call of Mand'alor.

Here's what I'm getting at...

When Jaster Mereel took control of the Mandalorians and created the Supercommando Codex, all of his men were Mandalorian from the start, with the exception being Jango Fett, whos father was the former Journeyman Protector and possible descendant of Cassus Fett. The only true organization the Ori'ramikade had was Mand'alor, and his second-in-command. All of their fighting units were organized on a case-by-case basis and there were few distinguishing features among them, with a few exceptions:

-The cape on the left shoulder was very prevalent through the ranks. Nearly every member of Mereel's men wore one.
-The only armor that was uniform was that of Mand'alor, red trim, and his second-in-command, blue trim.
-They adhered closely to Jaster Mereel's teachings, acting as a single fighting unit, instead of breaking off as individuals.

The Protectors, formed from the remains of the Supercommandos, were much less organized in who they accepted and where they came from, former Death Watchmen, Concordian and Mandalorian police, and many others who responded to Spar's call. Their uniforms were based on Boba's, which in turn was based on Jaster's. Every Protector we've seen wears green armor with red trim, jet packs, and the same undersuit as Boba. By the time of the dissolution of the Protectors, all uniformity had been wiped away. The only thing that held true was Mand'alor's authority, and even then it was circumstantial...

Ok, that's pretty good but, still lacks some. For example... if ALL protectors wore the same flightsuit as Boba, explain Tobbi Dala and Fenn Shysha's green flightsuit.

Also, based upon Mandalorian culture, anyone willing to accept the call of the Mandalorian life could assimilate and become Mando'ade. It had nothing to do with bloodline or birthright. Examples of this in Jaster's, Jango's and Boba's time are Jango Fett himself, as you mentioned, Kal Skirata and Walon Vau. I'm sure there were MANY more.

Jaster and then later Jango's "True Mandalorians" were not neccessarily the cream of the crop or the best of the best. They were Mandlorians who believed in Jaster's methods of ruling and fought to stop the Death Watch from returning the Mandlorians to their more barbaric past. They did have some type of rank structure bu uniform trim color, which I'm sure help establish the initial color based rank system for the Clone Troopers.

The Mandalorian Protectors were a different group altogether. They were a new rise to the Mandalorian culture post near obliteration. True, MOST seem to have worn armor colored like Boba's. Bt, it's unclear if that was a "standard" for their appearaence. The only true standard we really have confirmed is that Journeyman Protectors wore a red sash/girthbelt. We already know that Fenn and Tobbi had a slightly altered appearance from teh Fett style Protector uniform. So, who's to say there weren't more and to what degree their variance was. It's been established in cannon that Mando'ade typically wore colors that had siginificance in meaning, familuy meaning, personal tastes or mission specific reasons. That was not new to the Fett Super Commando era, that spans Mandalorian History.

By the time of Fett's Super Commando's, Mandalorians have re-established themselves as a Galactic Force although small in numbers. One Mandalorian, even those not in the Mand'alors personal guard, were worth at least 10-15 soldiers from any other army. By this time, there's no need for a unified military and no need to prove they are still a force to be reckoned with. It's established. Mandalorians are know to be throughout the galaxy and ar doing what they want or need to do. However, as seen in the LotF books and I'm assuming the the series with teh Vong (sorry, never read it) it shows they are ready, willing and able to answer the summons of the Mand'alor.

There is clear evidence that by the time Boba took the position of Mand'alor few if any Mandalorian Protectors were wearing the green flightsuit and/or armour seen in various pictures. Goran Beviin, Ram Zerimar, Briika Jeban and others all wore their own colours, as described in "A Practical Man". Just something to bare in mind.

Of course, by that time, they were no longer known as Mandalorian Protectors. They were Fett's Super Commandos

The green coloration IMHO was a designator color during their employment with the Seps. The original 212 were a battalion, and most likely needed to dress for it to disassociate themselves from other mando'ade who had be hired on as mercs. This is really the best answer I can formulate on why the somewhat standardized color of the green armor. I'll see if I can find a better one, but this one makes most sense at the present.

Hey anyone out there,Im rather new to this site,so sorry if I post this to the wrong thread,but I realy realy want to make Fenn's armor,well the helmet is preety much confirmed,but the shoulder emblems,the action fig shows one,but Im very curious about the "portrait" pic,there is one version that partialy shows it but its coverd by Tobbi Dalas face...so if anyone can supply me with different versions of pics of any kind of emblems ,insignias he has,please let me know.