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    Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Hey everyone. I'm new here and also new to costume making. I've been doing SW figure customs for a couple years now but thought I'd try my hand at a set of Mandalorian armor. So please forgive my n00bness.
    I developed a character named Kyram Do'ruun who would have been active sometime between the GCW and the Legacy eras, althohgh I haven't made up my mind yet. He would have been a member of the Mandalorian clan Do'ruun whose clan crest was the image of a diving hawk-bat with a blood drop in the center. Clan motto was (very)roughly translated to "Through our bleeding we are one".

    I have a rough of the armor so far. Clan motto in mando'a above the chest armor. Design on the chest meant to mimmick hawk-bat talons. Mando skull on one shoulder plate and clan crest on the other. It's still in it's rough stages of design and doesn't show the wethering I have planned for it eventually. Any feedback would be much appreciated.

    I've all but finished the gauntlets, ammo belt, gloves, knuckle plates, and weapons but need to hit all the plastic painted peices with some dull coat spray. I'll post some pictures of these soon. I should be getting my bucket in the mail soon which is a deluxe Rubies Jango (I mentioned I was a n00b, right?). Here is my plan for the helmet, again without weathering. Red jaig eyes on forehead.

    I'll be using modified burgundy combat boots and black form-fitting pants and undershirt instead of the more traditional coverall flightsuit. I'd also like to add a black faux leather kama and holsters.
    Let me know what you think... please be gentle.
    *fixed knees. doh.
    Last edited by Kyram; 04-29-2007 at 12:50 PM.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Hey, I saw you on the mysapce group, glad you made it here, there is no better place for mando things here.

    Your knees are upside down, you pulling a Jeremy on us?

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Woops! Thanks fore the correction. That's what I get for rushing to get the image up

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Looks like this will be a pretty nice set. Looking forward to seeing it in construction.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    I agree with Novall on that.

    Please post progress pics when you can.

    BTW. Welcome to TDH. Nice to see another person from Michigan here as well.

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    I'm from SW Michigan, but I am broke so I have no armour..

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    Welcome to TDH, and nice concept pics! Can't wait to see the final product

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Thanks for the welcome and the encouraging words everyone!

    OK, took some pictures of some of the items of my setup that are close to completion. The plastic bits still need some touch ups and a good dull or satin coat so they aren't so shiney.

    First up are my gloves and hand armor plates. The gloves are army surplus tank driver's gloves which are black cotton and leather.


    Here's a shot of each of my gauntlets. The plastic parts are each made up of one half of a Darth Vader action figure meditation chamber. The utility light is a flexible reading light cut and fit to the gauntlet. The dart shooter is part of a TV remote controller with BIC ballpoint pen ink tubes for the darts. Also needs finishing spray and touch ups. These are mounted on lace up leather bracers.


    Black military ammo belt with winged skull accent on buckle.


    Modified AirSoft pistol:


    Modified AirSoft pistol grip rile with old asthma medication breathing tube on the end for some kind of silencer or something:

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    I really like that rifle. Has a kind of old west look to it.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    I dont think the nylon pouches go with Star Wars, that is just me though.

    I also use the nomex gloves you use.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by NovallTalon View Post
    I really like that rifle. Has a kind of old west look to it.
    Yeah, that's what I thought too when I bought it to base my rifle blaster on. I thought the mock wood grain turned out decent but some of it chipped off the other side of the grip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cylrul Pbz View Post
    I dont think the nylon pouches go with Star Wars, that is just me though.
    Hmmm, well it was cheap enough I will probably upgrade to leather eventually anyway. I also don't care much for the modern style plastic closure on it either. Gunna keep my eye open and check out some local Army/Navy suplus places for something a little more "Star Warsy".

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    If you can buy from ebay, there are usually some nice small square ammo pouches you can get their that very closely resemble Fett's. That's what I use, and they are actually functional.

    They usually run like $5 for 2 pouches.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Looks very cool. And there's some very clever use of the parts bin in those gauntlets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovallTalon View Post
    If you can buy from ebay, there are usually some nice small square ammo pouches you can get their that very closely resemble Fett's. That's what I use, and they are actually functional.

    They usually run like $5 for 2 pouches.
    Checked out ebay and found a leather one for $125 and a styrene one that can be made in white, black, and brown for about $50 shipped from the fella I'm buying my raw armor plates from. I have to go pick up some faux leather for my kama so maybe I'll see if I can find a tutorial on making pouches and fashion my own.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Asylum View Post
    Looks very cool. And there's some very clever use of the parts bin in those gauntlets.
    Thanks! I love incorperating random greeblies into my stuff but I'm still pretty sloppy. I made a real mess of the left gauntlet trying to fill in the gaps between the gaunt and the dart shooter with some liquid casting plastic. The stuff was really runny but I was able to file most of it down with the dremel.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyram View Post
    Thanks! I love incorperating random greeblies into my stuff but I'm still pretty sloppy. I made a real mess of the left gauntlet trying to fill in the gaps between the gaunt and the dart shooter with some liquid casting plastic. The stuff was really runny but I was able to file most of it down with the dremel.
    Are you using Alumilite? That stuff can be a bear. Try Kneadatite. It's a 2-part plumbers epoxy that takes up to 2 hours to set so you can work it for a good long time.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by The Asylum View Post
    Are you using Alumilite? That stuff can be a bear. Try Kneadatite. It's a 2-part plumbers epoxy that takes up to 2 hours to set so you can work it for a good long time.
    Yeah, I really need to get something that has a thicker putty consistancy. I kind of just tried the SmoothCast liquid plastic because I had some laying around. Can I get the Kneadatite at one of my local hardware stores?

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    here's a very small tutorial about making a functional ammo belt that's under $100. Not a bad way to go if you want something that works and looks pretty good.

    http://firespray.net/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1177955683/0#0

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by NovallTalon View Post
    here's a very small tutorial about making a functional ammo belt that's under $100. Not a bad way to go if you want something that works and looks pretty good.

    http://firespray.net/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1177955683/0#0
    Those would work perfectly. Thanks!

    The vendor you suggested also carries some nice leather holsters I may be able to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyram View Post
    Yeah, I really need to get something that has a thicker putty consistancy. I kind of just tried the SmoothCast liquid plastic because I had some laying around. Can I get the Kneadatite at one of my local hardware stores?
    I've never seen it at stores. I've ordered it online. It's pretty cheap and a 6 foot roll lasts almost forever.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Good to see you Kyram, Your off to a great start with your look. I also have the same nylon pouches, I have used them with my Sniper outfit and they work for me..... anyway great stuff.... keep up the good work and the updates..........

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Thanks Valcar! I'll post more as I progress.

    Asylum: Thanks for the tip. I'll start looking for someone online who carries Kneadatite.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Kyram... Nice armor design. And I too love the blaster rifle. With than lever action base, it could be suitable for either Star Wars or Firefly.

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    i was thinking the same...would make a great firefly rifle...just needs a suitable girly name...like vera lol...anyway...nice armour...i especially like the gloves...thinking of doing that kind of armour plating myself

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    also meant to ask...were you on any formus with ur sw customs...i to am a customizer aswell...im on jedidefender

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyram View Post
    Thanks Valcar! I'll post more as I progress.

    Asylum: Thanks for the tip. I'll start looking for someone online who carries Kneadatite.
    Kneadatite (more commonly known as "the green stuff") is used a lot in sculpting gaming miniatures. I have sculpted several out of this stuff. You can get some at just about any gaming shop that carries Games Workshop miniatures. This is a smaller amt. than what you can generally buy online, but if you don't need alot this may help.

    The only thing you want to know is that when you use it it wants to stick to absolutely everything. More often than not it will stick to the tool you are using to put it on with rather than the part you are trying to put it on.

    You can dip your tools in denatured alcohol, or use the "spit method" (Yeah, I lick my sculpting tools...so what?!? ) to alleviate this momentarily. But you have to keep doing it over and over.

    You may want to try Bondo. If you've never used it before, its a quick mix, fairly easy to sand, and inexpensive (@ Wal-Mart) filler. Plus pick up a tube of Bondo glazing putty. This stuff will fill in any small holes or rough areas and sands like an absolute dream.

    Hope this helps some.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarek Vor View Post
    Kyram... Nice armor design. And I too love the blaster rifle. With than lever action base, it could be suitable for either Star Wars or Firefly.
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by setra View Post
    also meant to ask...were you on any formus with ur sw customs...i to am a customizer aswell...im on jedidefender
    Yes, I post to the YakFace forums as AstroZombie00. I have the figure customizing on hold for the moment as I can only afford one hobbie at a time.

    Quote Originally Posted by drokkul View Post
    Kneadatite (more commonly known as "the green stuff") is used a lot in sculpting gaming miniatures. I have sculpted several out of this stuff. You can get some at just about any gaming shop that carries Games Workshop miniatures. This is a smaller amt. than what you can generally buy online, but if you don't need alot this may help.

    The only thing you want to know is that when you use it it wants to stick to absolutely everything. More often than not it will stick to the tool you are using to put it on with rather than the part you are trying to put it on.

    You can dip your tools in denatured alcohol, or use the "spit method" (Yeah, I lick my sculpting tools...so what?!? ) to alleviate this momentarily. But you have to keep doing it over and over.

    You may want to try Bondo. If you've never used it before, its a quick mix, fairly easy to sand, and inexpensive (@ Wal-Mart) filler. Plus pick up a tube of Bondo glazing putty. This stuff will fill in any small holes or rough areas and sands like an absolute dream.

    Hope this helps some.
    Thanks for the tips, Drokkul! I plan on ordering some Green Stuff and I'll keep an eye out for some Bondo next time I'm over at WallyWorld.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    While I'm waiting on my raw armor plates I've decided to try to refine my design a bit. So I did up this rough composition of what I am shooting for using images of peices I have already fabricated and what I am expecting to. It's a kind of goofy looking cut and paste photoshop frankenstein but it should help give you all an idea of what I'm trying to do. Any contrcutive input would be much appreciated.


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    I don't see anything wrong with the look. In fact I like it a lot, and thats the best thing about a Custom Mando, the maker can just about do anything they like. It's a good look and the rilfe also looks great also..... it's going to look sweet......

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    i agree...this is going to be awsome when its finished.

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    Wow, I like your emblum (cant spell am useless) it all looks great though...looking forward to see some more of it finished!!!

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    UPDATE: Helmet!

    Greetings vode! Finally have a REAL update for you all today. Just got my bucket in the mail the other day and have been working on it obsessively ever since. I have the visor and inner support cradle on order at the moment and am thinking of adding a micro fan for a bit of ventilation. Anyway here it is so far:

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    nice job so far! BTW on your cut and paste pic up there, it appears that your shoulder pieces are pointed the wrong way, or on the wrong sides. Maybe it's just me, other then that, IT ROX!

    EDIT: I looked at it again, the emblems are pointed the right way, but the shoulders aren't. Again, if it's supposed to look that way, just ignore me, cause your concept is awsome! Can't wait to see the final product!

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Eh, you're probably right, or atleast the proportions make it look that way. Just kinda slapped it together to show how the colors and where the designs would be and stuff. I put the knees upsidedown on the first concept I posted, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darasuum_Verd View Post
    nice job so far! BTW on your cut and paste pic up there, it appears that your shoulder pieces are pointed the wrong way, or on the wrong sides. Maybe it's just me, other then that, IT ROX!

    EDIT: I looked at it again, the emblems are pointed the right way, but the shoulders aren't. Again, if it's supposed to look that way, just ignore me, cause your concept is awsome! Can't wait to see the final product!

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    Ah, that explains it. Nice job though!

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by NovallTalon View Post
    here's a very small tutorial about making a functional ammo belt that's under $100. Not a bad way to go if you want something that works and looks pretty good.

    http://firespray.net/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1177955683/0#0
    I read it, it doesnt seem like a tutorial, it seems all you are saying is "Buy some pouches, and attach them to a belt"

    To me that seems like common sense.

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    Re: Kyram Do'ruun's first armor attempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Cylrul Pbz View Post
    I read it, it doesnt seem like a tutorial, it seems all you are saying is "Buy some pouches, and attach them to a belt"

    To me that seems like common sense.
    It was helpful nonetheless. The ammo pouches look great and are a good price for WWII surplus and functional to boot.

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