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    Jul 18, 2007, 12:32 AM - Idea for custom mando #1

    i was thinking (something i try not to do to often) that mandalorian armor is very colourfull with the gauntlets and jumpsuit, and that these bright colours aren't very suited to a stealth/night-time mission for the mando's
    so im considering making a totally black custom mando armor, even the flightsuit would be black, matt black at that so it would be harder to see
    i know a lot of people would think ''one colour for a whole set of armor hes insane itll look a bit daft, but i dont think it will, plus it saves time on painting and sourcing materials.
    so let me know waht you guys think about my idea!
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    Jul 18, 2007, 3:13 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #2

    yeah, I was thinking about black over a gray jumpsuit, that was my original plans, his name was Ne'Tra Verd (Black/Stealthy Warrior in Mando'a)
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    Jul 18, 2007, 3:37 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #3

    Wicked name choice! What made you abandon your original plans, if you don’t mind my enquiry?
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    Jul 18, 2007, 3:46 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #4

    I think everyone has had this idea at one point or another, the problems I find with it are these:


    Hard to see in pics
    Some blacks don't match each other (not making it uniform enough)
    No weathering also makes it harder to see
    There is a lack of imagination when you get started, and you may get bored of the all black idea.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 3:51 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #5

    I was thinking of doing Black armour with a White mandolorian Ensign on the chest plate and white around the visor and a Grey undersuit
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    Jul 18, 2007, 4:05 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #6

    Iwas thinking along the lines of a suit similar to this one http://keithmoss.ws/blackholestorm.html sorry but I cant get posting images to work if you follow the link you will see what I mean and it looks pretty easy to see
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    Jul 18, 2007, 4:06 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #7

    Currently my pc wont let me type directly on the forums so im having to copy and paste from word
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    Jul 18, 2007, 4:30 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #8

    Also what does one need to illuminate the t-visor of your helmet blue, like the republic commandos? Thanks!!!!!!!!! sorry for posting so often!!
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    Jul 18, 2007, 4:38 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #9

    Quote 609th asfod said: View Post
    Also what does one need to illuminate the t-visor of your helmet blue, like the republic commandos? Thanks!!!!!!!!! sorry for posting so often!!
    LED's or El wire.

    If you are trying to make it look like the Blackhole trooper, I really don't quite get what you are doing then, that is just shiny black ABS.

    Mandos are completely different, I am finding it hard to see where you are coming from.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 4:45 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #10

    I know that mandos are different but I just figured that they would have a stealth detachment coloured like the black hole trooper for sensitive missions, also im finding it rather hard to decide on a paint scheme that a) works with the helmet colours I choose b) I don’t get bored of quickly or decide it just ain’t right c) I don’t have much spare time and a stealth mando suit would be the quickest to do, I also have a pal who paints cars for a hobby and can replicate the shinny blackhole armor paintjob with automotive paints
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    Jul 18, 2007, 4:46 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #11

    Quote 609th asfod said: View Post
    I know that mandos are different but I just figured that they would have a stealth detachment coloured like the black hole trooper for sensitive missions, also im finding it rather hard to decide on a paint scheme that a) works with the helmet colours I choose b) I donít get bored of quickly or decide it just ainít right c) I donít have much spare time and a stealth mando suit would be the quickest to do, I also have a pal who paints cars for a hobby and can replicate the shinny blackhole armor paintjob with automotive paints
    Well if you are stealthy I don't think you would want to be shiny.
    (just my opinion)
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    Jul 18, 2007, 4:52 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #12

    You got me there , just thought that the nice shinny armour was less boring than matt paint but its all still in the design process and I could choose either matt, or glossy, IMO the glossy armour helps to separate the amour pieces from the black jumpsuit and is easier on the eye, and more intimidating! Which fits the bill for mandos
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    Jul 18, 2007, 5:02 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #13

    One thing you'll find is that with gloss black armour people (not that familier with Star Wars) will refure to you as Darth Vader. My recommendation (and something I've found when I've helped other UK mando'ade to create their armour) is using a pallate of three colours. If you want the dark stealth effect then paint the armour matt-black, but have a very dark (almost charcol) grey for the flightsuit and a slightly lighter grey for the vest. These three colours could then be replicated on the helmet with the majority of it black, the upper cheeks dark grey and the lower cheeks lighter grey. Some contrast round the T-visor works wonders too.

    What ever you choose I strongly recommend weathering the armour as it'll make it stand out in pictures, gives it the "real" used look and will help give it some definition that you otherwise won't get with a monotone paint scheme.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 5:04 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #14

    cheers i will jsut ;possibly try that, btw is the psoting option not working correctly for anyone else
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    Jul 18, 2007, 5:06 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #15

    Quote 609th asfod said: View Post
    cheers i will jsut ;possibly try that, btw is the psoting option not working correctly for anyone else
    Just you.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 5:08 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #16

    thats reassuring so maybe only ican hear the voices jking btw
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    Jul 18, 2007, 6:39 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #17

    Othar layed it out pretty much for ya. A very nice gray color that offsets black is battleship gray. I used that on the keyholes of my helmet where the back is black, and it mixes perfectly.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 9:41 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #18

    I'd originally looked at doing a mostly black color choice for my armor. But, I decided against it. For many of the reasons the others have already said. Also, not that I don't like the concept or the concept of an all black set of armor. Just something I've seen is folks of late think "evil is cool, so black is cool". Don't get me wrong I'm all for a stealth type armor if you can pull it off. Maybe black, dark grey and a dark blue or some other color maybe? I'd say look at some of the urban warfare paint schemes for ideas. Many of them can work at night time as well.

    I'm going with the three color pallate, of a dark red, black, and grey or silver. As to being stealthy, well I think color dosen't matter. I mean look at the comic books, one of the most deadly assassins and stealthy type characters wears Orange and Blue. Deathstroke is just that good. But, you do have a point about using the darker colors.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 9:49 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #19

    didnt walon vau wear completly matt black armour....thats sounded cool...even more bad than usual cause walon is bad...in like a really big way lol
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    Jul 18, 2007, 10:23 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #20

    Lots of people use black on their armor, but you have to remember that there are lots of other non-black dark colors. Navy Blue, Crimson, Dark Brown are all examples of colors that in low light would be about as dark as black.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 11:20 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #21

    that raises another issue, should i have a helmet with or without the rangefinder?, if i go without it gives me an excuse to wear a huge cloak like darth mauls!!! with the hood up hiding the mando armor and sniper rifle, also wasnt walon vau a bit of a sociopath, likethe monk from mean machine just in mando armor lol!

    just a side note does anyone find my avatar a little overbearing?
    with the whole bright flashy light stuff!
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    Jul 18, 2007, 11:48 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #22

    For a custom mando, rangefinders are not a must. Someone else did a custom with a cloak like that awhile back, but I can't remember who it was.

    There have been so many different range-finder mods that I can't count them on both hands =D If you don't do an RF though, my advice is to atleast put a small antenna there or something so it doesn't look like you just left it off.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 11:56 AM - Re: Idea for custom mando #23

    i was thinking a collapsible rangefinder if you know what i mean so you can still have the rf and a cloak, and extend it when necessary, and still fold it down in fornt of t-visor!
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    Jul 18, 2007, 1:08 PM - Re: Idea for custom mando #24

    What would be cool is if you could make one like a motorized antenna, where it extends up or slides down upon itself. Even if you had to do the extending and pulling out yourself, thats probably the best way you could make it work...and work well.
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    Jul 18, 2007, 2:49 PM - Re: Idea for custom mando #25

    I know that mandos are different but I just figured that they would have a stealth detachment coloured like the black hole trooper for sensitive missions
    Obviously it is in the realm of the Star Wars universe so it would make sense that black=stealth, after all, ninja wear black.

    In reality, black will make you stick out more in the dark. Most black clothing is actually much darker than the surrounding darkness/lack of light. Truth be told, you'd be more difficult to see if you were wearing something that was more neutral like Olive drab. Even woodland camouflage would fare better than black in low light conditions, simply because you're never in complete darkness. You'll argue that many swat and even the navy SEALs wear black, and it's actually mostly for the intimidation factor. The SEALs wear black because most of the time that's the color of the wetsuit they're issued, but most often they would wear grey or OD for urban operations, and if I'm not mistaken LA swat has now switched to Navy blue for their uniform. But I'm going off on a tangent again ;p

    Regardless of the reasons for the black color choice, most, if not all the reasons everyone has given above do make sense for not going "all black" and I think the most valid one has to do with photography and lighting. You'll argue that Vader is "all black" but in fact it's not true, he has many silver/grey highlights, and the chestbox does a good job of contrasting with the rest of the costume.

    An all black mandalorian is a nice idea in concept, and in fact there are a few out there that went with the construction of a full set. I'm not one to discourage you, but I'd suggest you at least follow some of the advice/suggestions everyone has pointed above.

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