i found out not too long ago that the helmet Canderous Ordo wears when he is Mandalore in KOTOR 2 is apparently the same helmet as that of Mandalore the Ultimate's. obviously there are huge differences between the two of their buy'ce, sepecially since Mandalore the Ultimate's is not even a full helmet but just a mask (it is a really sweet mask though!). what i thought of was trying to bridge the gap between the two helmets.
when Revan killed Mandalore the Ultimate, he hid his mask so that the mandalorian clans could not be united. around the end of KOTOR, Revan tells Canderous where he hid the mask and tells him to unite the clans.
the next time we see canderous he is in fact Mandalore, but with a different helmet.
It is different, but that could be because candurous needs his armor as life support like vader, at least i think he does, maybe i can't remember right. anyways revan wore mandalore the ultimates mask too, so theres a good chance he modded it anyways. keep it up ner vod!
As I remember it, Revan had his own mask. It had no t-visor, it was more of a slit visor, like that of a royal guard. Canderous had life support built into is armor because he never took it off.
As for the discrepancy between the mask, perhaps the mask we see for mand'alor is one of his armors or maybe a formal/ light armor. The mask retrived by Canderous could have been mand'alor's heavy /battle armor. Also theres the chance that Ordo did indeed retrofit the mask for his own purposes. Mand'alors mask could be there under all the changes. the visors are more or less the same shape.
Your armor is fantastic nervod. I cant wait to see how your helmet turns out. Keep up the good work.
Ah, your probably right. Anyways It doesn't matter how you do it, Mandalores stopped using the mask of Te Kandosii Mand'alor anyways, plus its a custom, so do it how you like it.
Nice! Never thought about it... but Canderous's whole suit does look reminiscent of the Ultimate's armour... nice. Modified wouldn't surprise me in the slightest - I think I read somewhere in Triple Zero that Kal Skirata's armour was that of his adopted father... things like that tend to be passed down the Mando line, constantly changed according to the needs of it's current owner. Always loved that mask though... thinking of making that visor shape on my custom mando, more of a standard style helmet though
Do it! I want to see what you put out. I love to see what people are comming up with.
does anyone know when mandalorians switched from neo-crusader style armour to the 'true mandalorian' style? i was thinking about it and i have shoulder bells that are 'true mando' but the my chest armour is a bit more similar to that of the 'neo', by that im refering to the 'V' look (the gold plates on mine and the whole chest piece of the 'neo's').
im thinking that my finished armour could kinda be a transitional style that is an evolutionary step from 'neo' to 'true'. any ideas, thoughts, reference notes, or pics would be great!
I'm making a crusader helmet that is kind of similar.
thats a pretty sweet neo-crusader helmet thus far! itd be cool if you could keep me posted with pics!
Kandosii nervod, that would be sick.
wow man its been way too long since i checked up on this thread! you are doing great man! i love the transisitional idea! very original...and it gives us mandos something to do for 4000 years LOL great so far man! i wanna see more pics of your helmet!
i figured seeing as im getting a 'true' bucket (from Gypsyboy) soon instead of making my own helmet as well, i should just cut the front off the 'true' helmet, from ear to ear and everything just below the visor, then make my own face plate (with the above visor) and put that on. im also thinking about removing the 'true' rangefinder and putting on a smaller staionary antenna.
Last edited by Kad'alor; May 10, 2008 at 11:38 AM.
have you seen the death watch helmets?...with that visor id be tempted to make the shoter helmets that the death watch wear with that face plate...modded form the gypsyboy lid...would be a lot of extra work though
the chin wouldnt stick as far down as it looks like it does in the pic, its just because its closer thats why it appears larger. the bottom of the chin will still be in the same spot as it is with the 'true' buckets. and the death watch split from the True Mandalorians, whereas my helmet is 'pre-true', so to speak. thanks for the input though!
You could make the cheek pockets more of a swooping shape then the original too. If you wanted to add some different depth to it.
i angled the faceplate like that because i want the bottom edge to look similar to Canderous's, no cheek indents at all, the neos never had them and i feel that i dont need them for this bucket. im also debating if i should trim the bottom edge of the helmet to make it shorter, ill just have to wait and see how it fits when i get it.
Jaster Mereel created the super commando armor (jango style, boba is protector style) to replace neo-type suits. I'm sure that they had been modified throughout that time, but thats the only recorded time that they say a change took place. You know your armor looks alot like the Crusader MK III armor developed by black sun and Death Watch. In fact you schould look at this site http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crusader_MK_III_armor . It looks like what you want to do.
i was searching wookieepedia and stumbled onto a symbol and logo index!
its great for adding 'patches' to armour
my 'true' helmet is in the mail! it wont be long before i post more pics, plus im thinking of getting some material from work today so i can work on my custom vambraces tonight!
What ever u do do not cut out the face to make your custom! get your self a batting helmet or skate helmet and use one of them i have made 3 scrath builds and it not that hard u might be making a big mistake by haking that nice peice up when u can find some thing that will probable be more stream line than your gipzeboy,
your progress is looking good hope to see your mandalore soon and your fett.
what a wicked idea... will definatly be watching your progress
great work so far!