Who/what is THE DENT?

This is a tired subject for me and the rest of the administration but it seems that this question has once again been brought up and there are those who seem to feel that our lack of revealing the identity of the Dent indicates a deep dark secret among the administration and an effort to play cloak and dagger games with the membership. This couldn't be further from the truth.

We have never made this public knowledge, although we have shared it with most who have asked, but seeing that some seem to be completely consumed with discovering the "truth" of the matter, we will share a bit more info about the Dent.

The Dent is a title and position, much like the PresiDENT of the United States. That position is occupied by a single individual, again like the Presidency, but over time, the person occupying that position may change. Unlike the President of the United States, the Dent, who is appointed, not elected, is not made publicly known, and there is not a public notice when the Dent changes. Only two people have occupied the position of the Dent in the past 5 years.

The Dent is the owner of the board and forums, but the Dent is NOT the owner of thedentedhelmet.com. As anyone can see from a WHOIS search, Brak's Buddy owns the website, but the website is a separate entity from the board. There has been great confusion about this in the past, so I want to make sure this is clear. Brak's owns the website. The Dent owns the board.

So, why don't we share the identity of The Dent? There are a couple of reasons. First, we do not want members to treat the person occupying the office of the Dent differently than any other member. Second, we don't want those who might know the person occupying the office of the Dent to show disrespect to the Dent simply because they know the member on a personal level. We are all flawed and all have our weaknesses. However, here on TDH, the Dent has the final word and regardless of who fills that office, the Dent is to be shown respect. Please do not think this means the Dent is to be shown reverence or expects some sort of worship. This couldn't be further from the truth. We simply aren't interested in falling into deep debates over decisions made by the administration as that is not the point or purpose of this board.

TDH's administration is setup as a monarchy. While the Dent has the ability to act unilaterally, we strongly believe that there is wisdom in a multitude of council and each administrator is often given an opportunity to voice his or her opinion before a final decision is made. We do not vote and I have the final say on any decision, but I always take the rest of the administrations' counsel into account when making a decision. Even though the administration is comprised of individuals, when we have our "admin" hats on, we are a unified group and our voice is one, even though we might not always completely agree with one another on a personal level. Contrary to what has been stated by uniformed members, I am the only person with access to the Dent account and no other admin posts for me. If my posts mirror those of others in the administration, it is because we are a very tight-knit group. Many members might find this form of administration troubling, but so far, it has worked for us, and there has been less fighting at TDH than at virtually any other board we know of. This also cuts down on red tape and allows decisions that will benefit the membership to be made much more quickly.

As mentioned above, the administration of TDH has been setup with a single leader as we have seen the failings of boards who vote and get deeply entangled in politics and do not wish for TDH to become politically polarized. Is our approach the best? It is doubtful but it has worked for us very well and outside of a few dissidents who have a false sense of entitlement to both information and authority, it has worked almost flawlessly. We are well aware that everyone will not agree with this approach but we are committed to it until we find something better and all that we ask is that you respect it while you are here. You don't have to agree and you don't have to change your personal beliefs, but we are growing very weary of the constant grumblings and sideswipes from a disenchanted minority. If those who bark so loudly are in such disagreement with the way this board is run, there are plenty of other boards run in other fashions that might be more to your liking. They are but a google search away.

On a final note, as we have always said, the purpose of the administration is to serve the interests of the membership (as a whole) of TDH. We are here to help make your experience in your quest for a Boba, Jango, Zam or Variant costume as good as can possibly be. While we will not be dictated to or intimidated, we have always been and will always be open to constructive criticism. Many of the changes we have made in years past have come directly from the suggestions of our members. If your interest is in making general complaints, you will find us fairly unreceptive. However, if you have specific recommendations or disagree with a particular decision we have made, please feel free to PM, email or even post a thread about it.

While we know even this "admission" will not satisfy those with a constant ax to grind and we realize the majority of the membership is not even concerned with such trivial issues, we hope this information has helped ease the minds of those in the middle who have always been curious about how the administration is run and who the Dent is.

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One Dent to rule them all

Well stated

Hmm, that's interesting. I never knew that.
Cool info!

Man I have always wondered.....why anyone cares about who the Dent is. I mean really, if you knew would it some how make your visits here different? Let's just say for arguments sake that is was all of the admins (and I know it's not just induldge me for a moment) would that matter? I know that I personally don't care, my years spent here are the same, no matter who lays claim to the Dent title. (Heck we even had a good laugh about it at Dragon Con last year!)

At the end of the day, just remind your self, it's a costume board, and a group of people who all want the same thing. What possible difference could it make...

Holy ****, I can't for the life of me even understand why this would even be an issue to explain....

Always some sort of drama here in the background it seems...

Well, I for one like to meet fellow TDH members at cons and such. I had wondered who the Dent was since I had yet to meet him/her and if he/she was into costuming or had a costume, etc. All I knew was he/she was the board owner, but that's about it.

D - thanks for sharing this information ... very interesting.:cheers By the way, I like that "presiDENT" anology!:thumbsup

I really don't care one way or the other, but just out of curiosity, who is chosen for the dent position? Is it the admins? Maybe just general members? If either is true, does that person temporarily relinquish his normal account while the Dent role is being fulfilled or are they both in use?

...and I have always thought it was "where" the dent came from that was the issue. I explained that away as "the dent is the dent" doesn't matter so much to me where it came from but just the fact that it is there makes me feel complete.

I am glad to see so many of you taking a "why is this an issue" attitude. The administration feels the same, but wanted to make an effort to satisfy a minority who do not feel the same.

There are no stipulations on who can and who cannot fill the position of The Dent in regard to admin vs the general membership.

The person occupying the position of The Dent maintains both their usual account and The Dent account. This is the only allowable variation on a member having dual accounts.

As you have probably noticed, typically the position of the Dent is used very infrequently and generally only in times of heavy strife. The Dent does not moderate on a day to day basis and rarely gets involved in more mundane decisions. I have complete faith in the administration. They make most of their decisions autonomously and do not require my supervision or approval.

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Originally Posted by TeamFett

I really don't care one way or the other, but just out of curiosity, who is chosen for the dent position? Is it the admins? Maybe just general members? If either is true, does that person temporarily relinquish his normal account while the Dent role is being fulfilled or are they both in use?

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I was wondering why anyone would even think that you were a non-existent person or merely admins filling in every now and then. But I greatly appreciate the judgment that you make in any of the situations that arise here on the forums.

All hail the Dent! :D

Ah yes, the mystery that was wrapped up in an enigma, then rolled into a twinkie and deep fried.

Though I appreciate the explanation I have never really given it much thought. The only thing that matters to me is that the people here are great, it's a family friendly atmosphere (this is the first and only board I have let my 10 year old on), and it supports a fun hobby. :cheering

:cheers to ya Dent. Whoever you may be. Let the mystery live on.

I haven't given it much thought either. this is interesting though. perhaps some of us have come across him at conventions and not know it, before.
Dent, you wish to be kept a secret, and I respect your privacy. :cheers

Just one question,
When you want to post, do you always post as the Dent or do you use your secret identity?

The Dent account is only used for administrative posts. I use my regular account for all other posting.

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Originally Posted by Desloc

Just one question,
When you want to post, do you always post as the Dent or do you use your secret identity?

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Disclaimer: The following post is made in jest

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Originally Posted by The Dent

The Dent account is only used for administrative posts. I use my regular account for all other posting.

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Oh, just wondering. I take it since you don't complain, insult or annoy this doesn't apply?. ;)

A "sock puppet" refers to an alias being used by a member in order to hide their identity and may be used to make complaints, to insult, annoy, or anger another member or group of members

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Originally Posted by Desloc

Disclaimer: The following post is made in jest

Oh, just wondering. I take it since you don't complain, insult or annoy this doesn't apply?. ;)

A "sock puppet" refers to an alias being used by a member in order to hide their identity and may be used to make complaints, to insult, annoy, or anger another member or group of members

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:lol:lol:lol

I make every effort to keep my complaining, insulting and annoying to a minimum so I am not banned. ;)

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Originally Posted by The Dent

:lol:lol:lol

I make every effort to keep my complaining, insulting and annoying to a minimum so I am not banned. ;)

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Hehe, is it possible for the Board Owner to ban himself?

:lol

No, but from time to time the admins threaten a coup if I don't take my turn cleaning the staff restroom.

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Originally Posted by The Dent

:lol

No, but from time to time the admins threaten a coup if I don't take my turn cleaning the staff restroom.

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We have a staff restroom?! I have been holding it until I got home!!

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Originally Posted by asok

We have a staff restroom?! I have been holding it until I got home!!

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Probably for the best. If the Dent hasn't cleaned it for a while, it's bound to be pretty treacherous in there. :lol

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Originally Posted by asok

We have a staff restroom?! I have been holding it until I got home!!

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Well, we heard that you had issues with lifting the seat and now that we have two females on the admin staff, we just didn't think that would work out so well. ;)

I just wear a diaper. :b

Great info, Dent! Thanks!

I always thought the idea of "The Dent" was great.. A good way to say what needs to be said without anyone looking like the bad guy/girl.. Personally, I always thought it was Mirax.. She seems to be the most rational one around here.. Not that it matters.. Mystery is more fun.. :D

Regardless of who or what "The Dent" is, this is one of the best moderated and friendly forums, I have ever been on.. Good work people :thumbsup

I have to agree with just about everyone here. Does it really matter who The Dent is? No. I don't think it would give anyone a warm fuzzy, nor would it serve to quell the conspiracy theories, because we all know that those will be around no matter what. It has definitely worked well for this community, and I applaud the present system for it's success. I hope that it continues for many years to come =)

But knowing is half the batte
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...adyjaye-dd.jpg

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Originally Posted by The Dent

:lol

No, but from time to time the admins threaten a coup if I don't take my turn cleaning the staff restroom.

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Watch your step Dent.

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Originally Posted by The Dent

This is a tired subject for me and the rest of the administration but it seems that this question has once again been brought up and there are those who seem to feel that our lack of revealing the identity of the Dent indicates a deep dark secret among the administration and an effort to play cloak and dagger games with the membership. This couldn't be further from the truth.

We have never made this public knowledge, although we have shared it with most who have asked, but seeing that some seem to be completely consumed with discovering the "truth" of the matter, we will share a bit more info about the Dent.

The Dent is a title and position, much like the PresiDENT of the United States. That position is occupied by a single individual, again like the Presidency, but over time, the person occupying that position may change. Unlike the President of the United States, the Dent, who is appointed, not elected, is not made publicly known, and there is not a public notice when the Dent changes. Only two people have occupied the position of the Dent in the past 5 years.

The Dent is the owner of the board and forums, but the Dent is NOT the owner of thedentedhelmet.com. As anyone can see from a WHOIS search, Brak's Buddy owns the website, but the website is a separate entity from the board. There has been great confusion about this in the past, so I want to make sure this is clear. Brak's owns the website. The Dent owns the board.

So, why don't we share the identity of The Dent? There are a couple of reasons. First, we do not want members to treat the person occupying the office of the Dent differently than any other member. Second, we don't want those who might know the person occupying the office of the Dent to show disrespect to the Dent simply because they know the member on a personal level. We are all flawed and all have our weaknesses. However, here on TDH, the Dent has the final word and regardless of who fills that office, the Dent is to be shown respect. Please do not think this means the Dent is to be shown reverence or expects some sort of worship. This couldn't be further from the truth. We simply aren't interested in falling into deep debates over decisions made by the administration as that is not the point or purpose of this board.

TDH's administration is setup as a monarchy. While the Dent has the ability to act unilaterally, we strongly believe that there is wisdom in a multitude of council and each administrator is often given an opportunity to voice his or her opinion before a final decision is made. We do not vote and I have the final say on any decision, but I always take the rest of the administrations' counsel into account when making a decision. Even though the administration is comprised of individuals, when we have our "admin" hats on, we are a unified group and our voice is one, even though we might not always completely agree with one another on a personal level. Contrary to what has been stated by uniformed members, I am the only person with access to the Dent account and no other admin posts for me. If my posts mirror those of others in the administration, it is because we are a very tight-knit group. Many members might find this form of administration troubling, but so far, it has worked for us, and there has been less fighting at TDH than at virtually any other board we know of. This also cuts down on red tape and allows decisions that will benefit the membership to be made much more quickly.

As mentioned above, the administration of TDH has been setup with a single leader as we have seen the failings of boards who vote and get deeply entangled in politics and do not wish for TDH to become politically polarized. Is our approach the best? It is doubtful but it has worked for us very well and outside of a few dissidents who have a false sense of entitlement to both information and authority, it has worked almost flawlessly. We are well aware that everyone will not agree with this approach but we are committed to it until we find something better and all that we ask is that you respect it while you are here. You don't have to agree and you don't have to change your personal beliefs, but we are growing very weary of the constant grumblings and sideswipes from a disenchanted minority. If those who bark so loudly are in such disagreement with the way this board is run, there are plenty of other boards run in other fashions that might be more to your liking. They are but a google search away.

On a final note, as we have always said, the purpose of the administration is to serve the interests of the membership (as a whole) of TDH. We are here to help make your experience in your quest for a Boba, Jango, Zam or Variant costume as good as can possibly be. While we will not be dictated to or intimidated, we have always been and will always be open to constructive criticism. Many of the changes we have made in years past have come directly from the suggestions of our members. If your interest is in making general complaints, you will find us fairly unreceptive. However, if you have specific recommendations or disagree with a particular decision we have made, please feel free to PM, email or even post a thread about it.

While we know even this "admission" will not satisfy those with a constant ax to grind and we realize the majority of the membership is not even concerned with such trivial issues, we hope this information has helped ease the minds of those in the middle who have always been curious about how the administration is run and who the Dent is.

D

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So what you are really saying is:

Even "The Dent" doesn't know who "The Dent" is...



:lol:lol:lol:lol

http://www.beadesigngroup.com/i_beli...arvey_dent.jpg

Your Jeremy Bulloch aren't you?

I always kinda wondered but didn't really care. I'll file it in my brain under "useless information that's good to know that may make good conversation starters at parties"

In all seriousness that answers alot of my questions that I didn't care if they every got answered. Thanks

After reading this thread more closely, I came across a quote from The Dent that I believe reveals his true identity once and for all;

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Originally Posted by The Dent

The Dent account is only used for administrative posts. I use my regular account for all other posting. Sniff on my brother, Sniff on.

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There can be no doubt.

no wonder I haven't seen him post in awhile. He's busy owning the board

the dent debate just seems so silly to me.

who cares who runs the show? someone gets the glory and glamor of dealing with all the cruft we hate to see, and if s/he is really lucky, gets to pay the bills AND deal with software updates and security patches.

ahhh...yes...the dent...he is fair and full of wisdom but remains a mystery to us all;)

all hail the dent:cheers:cheers

in reality...i never gave it musch thought either...but this thread was interesting non-the-less...

and i always thought the dent wasn't like the presiDENT...but more like the imperfection in boba's helmet:lol:lol:lolthat doesnt mean that i think the dent is not perfect in his handing down of carbonite punishments...:lol:lol

Okay. I have absolutely nothing to do with running this board and would like to be hereby be known as "The Bump". Which brings me to my next subject. I am starting Bump City... :lol

Sorry, could not resist - been some weird stuff on the board lately.

I thought The Dent was that 'thing' in Boba Fetts' helmet that the board was named after. Is it something else?:?

The title IS a reference to Fett's dent. The PresiDENT was an analogy.

I know. I was just being facetious. Sarcasm doesn't translate too well through the keyboard. More often than not, one just comes across as dim, as was the case in my previous post.

I liked it much better when we didn't know Boba Fett's identity, what he looked like, where he came from etc. I like the fact that we don't know who the Dent is. A little mystery goes along way.

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I liked it much better when we didn't know Boba Fett's identity, what he looked like, where he came from etc. I like the fact that we don't know who the Dent is. A little mystery goes along way.

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wait? the dent is really a clone of temeura morrison????

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Originally Posted by tk7602

wait? the dent is really a clone of temeura morrison????

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Aren't all of us?

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Originally Posted by GCNgamer128

Aren't all of us?

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lol. That was great..

the name is the important thing for inspiring the necessary fear. You see, no one would surrender to the dimple.

In reality guys, does it really matter who the Dent is? As long as he/she continues to supply us with this awesome resource for everything Fett, who cares who it is.

I care....

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Aren't all of us?

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Aside from face, hair, voice and build, I'm a dead ringer for him!

ALL HAIL THE DENT!!! :thumbup http://forum.501italica.com/images/smiles/king.gif

:lol (j/k)

I always was confused at a point on WHO The Dent actually was, knowing later on about the truth and my speculation...pretty much as THE DENT just said (and will still remains in secret) 8) ....I just didn't know there were different people within 5 years occupying that position, though. :suprise

Actually, I didn't pay much importance to that, as long as there is equal respect to the mods, because you'll never know "who's who".......just my 2 cents.

:fettesb

I think it would be awesome if the Dent started referring to him/herself in the third person. That would be the icing.

THE DENT IS NOT AMUSED!

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Originally Posted by Got Maul

I think it would be awesome if the Dent started referring to him/herself in the third person. That would be the icing.

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Skillz that killz

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Originally Posted by Got Maul

I think it would be awesome if the Dent started referring to him/herself in the third person. That would be the icing.

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Originally Posted by tk7602

THE DENT IS NOT AMUSED!

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if you put these two quotes together i'd have to say that tk7602 is the dent's alter ego!

hmm...very interesting. This issue never even crossed my mind. Im too busy explaining to my wife why I'm spending all this money on a costume. LOL :fettesb

Kata

I believe Marcus Licinius Crassus (as portrayed by Sir Laurence Olivier, in Spartacus) when speaking on the topic of Rome...

http://www.clone-empire.com/dent.wav

This is how we should regard the idea of Dent.

:albino

all i know is, the dent must be an author, because that was a book of a post

it's jeremy bulloch, duh

WALL OF TEXT!!! :lol

I wonder if the Dent has changed since then? It could be any one of us :rolleyes

Well it seems to work well, this is a really well organized forum. I like the way the Dent's identity is hidden and I like the fact it changes - Doctor Who style!

Keep up the good work, Dent and all admin, you do us proud. Without this site, (amongst others), my Fett may never have been started, (here's hoping it gets finished).

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Originally Posted by The Dent

The Dent account is only used for administrative posts. I use my regular account for all other posting.

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So i guess then The Dent is similar to a Cop. Making sure things run smoothly and always reminding to follow the rules. And The Dents second account, is when he/she is off duty.:fettchest