Jan 11, 2010, 10:39 PM - stolen property.
Hey all. I know I don't come around like I used to, and I haven't forgotten about this place. I still have hopes of one day making a Fett suit. I hope you've all been doing well.
It has slowly become apparent that I have been robbed. I used to live in Tennessee and had my Rubies Fett helmet and gauntlets at the time. A friend... or should I say ex-friend, said he'd fix them up for me. He's kept them at his house over time. We used to work together, so I had no reason to even think he'd steal from me. Then finally, the time came and I was moving to Georgia in early 07. He said he would fix my stuff up for me then send them to me. Casually over the years, I've asked how my stuff was coming along, and I'd get responses like, "Same old." or "I'll get to work on it on my next day off." etc.He was always online invisible because he'd usually get loads of messages from his contacts Now, April 2009. We were just talking like usual (we talked on messanger) and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. We just talked like normal. However, that is the last time I talked to him on messanger. Over the months, I've asked his wife where he is and why he doesn't get on, etc. She just says he's busy, etc. I slow began to suspect him of turning his back on me, yet I didn't want to rush to conclusions just yet. finally, back in October or so, I finally called his house. I know he still has his number, because I searched information. He answered the phone. I knew it was him because I knew from his voice when he answered. and he immediately knew it was me. So, he disguises his voice in low pitch and tells me, "Uh, you got the wrong number," then hangs up on me. The thing is, I knew where he worked. so, I had another family member call him and surprise him, and basically told him I was wanting my things back and left a message at his house number as well. Later that night, his wife messages me asking my address. I asked her if she still had the phone number, and she says yes, They got the messages at work and at home. So in other words, she admitted that it was indeed himAnyway, I've given them time and then called her at work asking about the status of my Fett stuff. She says They've been "busy" and haven't had time. uh.. yeah. The last phone call made was a couple weeks ago, and naturally.. no answer. I think it's apparent he's stealing from me. He KNOWS I've been trying to contact him because I've also had other people pass messages along to him. He has $240 dollars worth of my Fett pieces.
I know some of you probably think I brought this upon myself, and should have gotten my stuff back when I had the chance when I last saw him. Honestly, I agree. I just thought he was my friend and wouldn't do this to me.
can anything else be done? Or has he gotten away with it? Can anyone offer advice?
Just let me know. Thanks all!
Last edited by InfraFett; Nov 24, 2010 at 12:06 AM.
Jan 11, 2010, 11:38 PM - Re: stolen property.
wow that really sucks bro. I am not sure if anything else can be done, maybe someone more knowledgeable than myself will chime in but thats really crumby of someone to do to someone. I hope you can somehow get your stuff back.
Jan 12, 2010, 12:09 AM - Re: stolen property.
I feel for you man. I would just write the stuff off doing so will only bring you better things in the future. It pays to be the bigger man. Good luck.
Jan 12, 2010, 5:45 AM - Re: stolen property.
Well, I would take - on the next Day off - a Trip to his House and get the Stuff back.
He cant change voice or have to send you a package if you stay right in Front of him.
At this point there were two choices: Either he give you your Stuff back or might tell you a true Story about the Remain (maybe he Lost it and is ashamed) and you act in Magnanimity and go in peace or you might proberbly wanna kick his *** and cancel the Friendship.
That would be my advice.
Jan 12, 2010, 6:15 AM - Re: stolen property.
Hi m8 sorry to hear that, i hope you get your gear back. Its a sad day when a so called friend can do something like that
Jan 12, 2010, 8:32 AM - Re: stolen property.
That sucks man. Unfortunately I think that unless you can prove he had them and that you didn't give them to him you're out of luck legally. Not to mention the amount of time that's passed. I agree with Mafio, if you can go to his house I'd drop by and say "Hi there. Remember me?" He will be forced to give them to you or admit to what he did. Either way at least you will be able to get some closure.
Jan 12, 2010, 8:44 AM - Re: stolen property.
These things also happend in the RPF forum, and the usual suggestion is to take your case to a small court to get things resolved.
Hope that helps.
Jan 12, 2010, 4:13 PM - Re: stolen property.
Thanks everyone. He lives in Tennessee and I'm in Florida now. it might be a while before I'm up in Tennessee again. I have looked at the possibility of of claims or something. He made a post on another forum a couple years ago about making his Tie suit and helping me with a Fett suit. Plus I have a couple pictures of when I first got the helmet. Could that be proof enough? And how long would a filing a claim take? a month? If I do go back up to Tennessee, it'd only be a visit..
Thanks for the responses everyone
Last edited by InfraFett; Jan 12, 2010 at 6:37 PM.
Jan 12, 2010, 6:30 PM - Re: stolen property.
It would take about 20 minutes before the judge. Explain what happened, the judge will order him to return your belongings and if they are damaged, the judge will order payment in an estimated amount. You don't need a lawyer, but you do need to be prepared. If you have no evidence, the case will be dismissed. When he gets notification of the pending case, he will probably return your stuff anyway. If he sold it online, you can take the case to trial. There are fees for small claims court, but you can include legal fees in your claim. If you have no documentation of the arrangement, you will need witnesses that can swear before the judge that they are privy to the arrangement. The more proof you have, the better your odds of getting your stuff or getting compensation for your loss.
Good luck with it.
Jan 18, 2010, 7:34 AM - Re: stolen property.
Some courts allow e-mails as evidence. If you have any (or any real letters) where he acknowledges having your helmet+parts, you can use that in court as proof that he has it. If you don't have this try and get him to admit it in an e-mail. Sorry to hear he's being a ****** bro. :/
Jan 22, 2010, 3:57 PM - Re: stolen property.
What a dishonest friend! I hope you get your belongins soon. I cannot offer any help... I don't know USA laws... but... I think you can post a picture of him, the name of the street where he lives and his e-mail so that everybody would know who is... and may be that would make him feel ashamed and would give your things back.
Jan 22, 2010, 9:04 PM - Re: stolen property.
Sorry to hear that....
Ogait-Nas...if you do that..maybe he can sue you...i wouldn´t do it that way. Get as many proofs as you can, ask a lawyer (if you have any close, or if any of your friends is a lawyer). Maybe you have a free advice service in your community...
And if all this fails... maybe for 50 dollars you can pay someone to brake one leg...(just kidding).
Jan 23, 2010, 8:29 PM - Re: stolen property.
I haven't been able to contact him, (aside from him faking his voice over the phone and hanging up on me) yet if I could get proof from a conversation between me and his wife, could that work? If so, then I think I can pursue this further
Mar 10, 2010, 8:27 PM - Re: stolen property.
Is there any chance that you can get his wife to talk you on Yahoo Messenger or something like that? That way you could save the convo, print it off and see if the Police will look into it.
I hope this helps vod.
Apr 4, 2010, 8:55 PM - Re: stolen property.
well if you have proof cal the police. It may sound like im overreacting but he is stealing from you.
Apr 4, 2010, 8:56 PM - Re: stolen property.
Dude that sucks! I would be homicidal if someone stole my armor. I agree with everyone else here. Take a visit and try a court. Justice may be blind, but with enough proof and (possibly) a guilt trip on his part, you could get it back.
Apr 18, 2010, 7:04 PM - Re: stolen property.
Well, at this point I think it's safe to say I won't see my belongings again. Neither of them have showed up online or said anything to me. plus, I won't be up in Tennessee for a while. He's a 501st member and I've considered posting his profile page on here to warn everyone about him. He put his email on his 501st page, yet if he can sue me for posting his page up, then maybe it's not a good idea. I don't think it would do much good to contact the garrison either. I've read and saw that a few others on here dealt with similar situations. I don't know what I can tell you guys either other than I know how you feel. Yet anyway, thanks for the input everyone
May 4, 2010, 5:49 PM - Re: stolen property.
Just an idea, He is a 501st member, they wouldn't like it if on of there members steel. Can't you try to contact them and let them know what happend. They shouldt atleast warn him. Maby they'll bann him if he doesn't give your gear back.
Best off luck,
May 5, 2010, 11:21 AM - Re: stolen property.
In 1989, Tennessee revised its criminal code. The following year the statute of limitations was revised to conform to the format of the revised criminal code. The statute requires prosecution for a felony to begin within: fifteen years for a Class A felony; eight years for a Class B felony; four years for a Class C or Class D felony; and two years for a Class E felony. See T.C.A. § 40-2-101. The state must commence prosecution for a misdemeanor within twelve months after the offense has been committed. See T.C.A. § 40-2-102.
Theft by false pretext includes any crime of theft where a person uses false pretext to obtain property belonging to someone else.
Theft of property or services is:
(1) A Class A misdemeanor if the value of the property or services obtained is five hundred dollars ($500) or less;
(2) A Class E felony if the value of the property or services obtained is more than five hundred dollars ($500) but less than one thousand dollars ($1,000);
(3) A Class D felony if the value of the property or services obtained is one thousand dollars ($1,000) or more but less than ten thousand dollars ($10,000);
(4) A Class C felony if the value of the property or services obtained is ten thousand dollars ($10,000) or more but less than sixty thousand dollars ($60,000); and
(5) A Class B felony if the value of the property or services obtained is sixty thousand dollars ($60,000) or more.
I am not a lawyer but i hope this helps.
May 5, 2010, 11:50 AM - Re: stolen property.
OUT HIM! I would post his BS everywhere every chance I got. If he can't afford to send your stuff then he can't afford to sue you. Contact everyone all the time. Call his work and let them know that he has your stuff. Beilieve me, when (and if) he would have the balls to attempt to make a harrassment report, the truth would come out over his BS dealings and nothing would happen to you. Take my word for it. MAKE A SERIOUS NUISSANCE OF YOURSELF! He will come around man. Call his house every hour being polite and ask for your stuff. Send him registered letters asking for it. Hound him relentlessly in a professional manner and anooy the bejesus out of him. It will work.
May 5, 2010, 8:39 PM - Re: stolen property.
Unfortunately, I'm pretty darn sure that it is illegal to post anyone's name, address, phone number, etc. with out their permission.
However *look around to make sure no one is peering over my shoulder* you could go up their and sneak into their house during work hours so they aren't there and place a bug in their phone that only transmits radio waves every 4 hours so any phone lines are not likely to pick up the signals. Then you go home and call him asking for your helmet and assuming he does the same thing as the last time then his wife will probably ask who just called and he'll start talking about the helmet where you will be able to pick it up with your bug and use it as evidence against him. MWAHAHAHAHAHA.
Note: this is actually illegal as well =(
May 29, 2010, 11:37 AM - Re: stolen property.
fyi it is NOT illegal to post anyones address etc. online. It called freedom of information, this is why you can do a background check on anyone for any reason. It does however open you up for a law suite if you made false statements and posted them online or anywhere else. But that person would then have to prove that your statement caused them emotional or financial harm in court . Which seem far happening since you seem to have gone out of your way to try to communicate with this individual. Just be factual. I honestly don't think that anyone would blame you if you used a four letter word or two but try not if if you can.
Keep in mind this person may have other victims and anonymity is his friend for the moment. By letting other know his name it would warn others and would probably force him to at the very least defend himself and come out of hiding .
May 31, 2010, 1:43 PM - Re: stolen property.
It only violates the privacy act if you are an organization that collect such information and use it for business/official purposes. If you are a private citizen posting such information its not a VIO of the privacy act.
Aug 29, 2010, 3:51 PM - Re: stolen property.
At this point, I've done everything I can think of. The only thing that would work is if I got another one of those "We'll look for it on our next day off" excuses from his wife. I have not heard back from either of them, so there's nothing else that can be done. I've checked more into posting his information and I indeed can't do it. I am only allowed to post my own information, such as email, etc.
Aug 29, 2010, 4:47 PM - Re: stolen property.
*sight* YouTube - Simpsons - Hired Goons *sight*
Just joking. I'm sorry Can't you wait in front of his house door until he shows up?